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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:31 AM
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CNN: The National Guard has arrived, thousands pouring in.
Barbara Starr says the General (can't remember his name) is directing the troops. She reports at least 50 military vehicles.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:32 AM
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1. Are they bringing food in with them?
or just guns?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:33 AM
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4. Good question...no answer, though.
Barbara Starr reports that Guardsmen are pouring out of the vehicles, mustering and then heading out.

All troops heavily armed, she reports, but the General has ordered them to walk with weapons pointed down, screaming, "This is not Iraq!" at them.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:35 AM
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12. "Them" who?
Them the residents or them the former Iraq soldiers?

Actually, if you think about it, it's A LOT like Iraq.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:37 AM
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17. More coincidence Jen?
We saw it coming.. here's the security detail to protect the King.

Watch these people hug his legs, great photo shoot.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:47 AM
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29. Don't be surprised when they show The King handing out supplies.
I feel it coming... don't you?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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5. they are bringing food!!!!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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7. They are there to to protect the KING
so he can walk among the commoners, and bringing food, medicine and water..

coincidental.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:35 AM
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11. Hmmm.... CNN reports that Bush is going to take a ground tour of NOLA
I certainly hope it's not coincidental that the Guard shows up so that Bush can step out of his limo...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:55 AM
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37. Hmmm, they reported last night it was to be fly-over only.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:33 AM
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2. A "food convoy" to bring food to the convention center!
Finally, tears of relief.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:33 AM
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3. Sounds more like an invasion than a rescue, the way Barbara Starr
is describing it.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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6. This is probably for Bush's photo op
CNN reported that Bush will go on the ground to tour. They are probably sealing off the area to let him do this. Piece of crap that he is.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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10. I agree that it's more than coincidental, but GOD I'm so glad...
.. that help has finally arrived.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:59 AM
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39. They'll have to bring hand picked cheerleaders with them
No survivors will cheer him. Trust me.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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8. More important, ARE THEY TRANSPORTING PEOPLE OUT?
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:35 AM by rocknation
or merely "securing" them? Those "thousands" got there somehow.

GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THERE!!!!!

:mad:
rocknation
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:34 AM
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9. Wow. Such swift action
:sarcasm:

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they've finally shown up, but they should have been there much, much sooner.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:36 AM
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14. they have weapons and the general told them point them down
she says, "he said, this is not Iraq."

at least there's a general with brains out there.

but they are mustering as army.

She says they will have pictures.

SO WHY ARENT THEY SHOWING THEM NOW!!

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:46 AM
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27. Priorities.
:puke:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:56 AM
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38. Imagine how many have already died
due to dehydration because Bloody George failed to act. More blood on his hands!
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blurp Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:16 PM
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44. Blame the governor. The guard doesn't come util she gives the word.

LA was declared a disaster area Saturday, but she waited until Wednesday to call out the guard.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:36 AM
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13. Pentagon's changing its tune- 'determined to be a humanitarian effort'
No more military hyperbole suggesting taking control/law and order/shoot to kill
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:36 AM
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15. The General is yelling, "THIS IS NOT IRAQ, ARMS POINT DOWN"
He's instructing the troops, according to Barbara Starr.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:39 AM
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20. but if there are kids with guns in there, or shoot at them, citizens are
going to get hurt
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:41 AM
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22. Fox has high up pictures of the convoy of trucks packed to the gills going
thru water - surprising there's still water.

So lets see what we can see from Fox

Funny Fox got in there. maybe they're not embedded. maybe Shep has had enough of FEMA's bullsh..
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:42 AM
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24. CHEEZ - a lot of water came back in....that's deep water
.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:37 AM
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16. Did you catch that?! Hastert had to hurry off to a FUNDRAISER!!
omg. Rove must be having fits.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:38 AM
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18. FINALLY!!!!
:cry:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:39 AM
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19. Had to be there to PROTECT Bush??? n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:41 AM
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21. I Can't Fucking Believe It, I Really Think The Scum WITHHELD RELIEF UNTIL
Chimpy was able to get their.

I think they withheld relief ON PURPOSE SO IT COULD ARRIVE W/ CHIMPY!!!

Someone, anyone, tell me I'm crazy for believing this! I can't fucking believe it, so help me, I think it's true. There's no good goddamn reason the guard is arrive only NOW as if CHOREOGRAPHED to coincide w/ Chimpy arriving. Why not days ago???????
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:45 AM
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25. I don't know if that is true of not, but the food is there! FINALLY!
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:47 AM
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28. Maybe, maybe to make people docile - to heel - pavlovian
be good, I'll feed you

bad, I'll starve you.

I really think it's PNAC's experiment.

It fits right in.

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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:49 AM
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32. here's the lesson...keep a month's worth of canned food & water
so they cant do it to anyone else.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:53 AM
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35. Matching the bell to the food pellet -- or the Chimp to the food trucks.
It's an absolutely deliberate politicization of this disaster. Without question, this has Rove's fingerprints all over it.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:39 PM
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51. the manipulation here is patently obvious
I think you're dead on right about the "food relief/Commander Bush arrival" trigger being set up. After that's established, the bullshit will come rolling in to validate it and soon history/perception will be rewritten.

...That is, if we all just shut up, roll over and take it.

But who's going to do that here? Not me.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:48 AM
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30. Amen! That's EXACTLY what they did.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-05 11:49 AM by TahitiNut
There's no question about it. It was timed so the relief and Chimpy's photo-op occurred at the same time. :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

That's Rove's hand in it. Not a question about it. Midday. On-camera. Before the end of the Friday news dump. In time for repeats all weekend.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:19 PM
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46. A THREE day weekend at that...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:48 AM
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31. If you're crazy for thinking that, then I'm crazy too because that is
exactly what I believe. And if that isn't the case it's just as bad, because it took them FIVE DAYS to get disaster relief to these people! Either way, it's fucked up and the next time this happens I don't expect them to Johnny on the spot either.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:51 AM
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33. Either they delayed the Chimp to match relief or the relief to match the
... Chimp. Either way, this was stage-managed .... NOT to rush relief, but to politicize the Chimp!!!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:53 AM
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34. I totally agree, Bush's golden moment - total hors-shit!!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:12 PM
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42. No, they've just finally been shamed into action so FINALLY
they're making something happen instead of just coming up with platitudes and sound bytes for the media.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:42 AM
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23. this will backfire
Bush sat on his ass all week while New Orleans was completely neglected, and now - on FRIDAY - the Guard shows up because he does.

Shows their priorities! Protect the king, the hell with the people! If he'd bothered to show up on Tuesday, maybe he would have brought his army of bodyguards with him and a lot of the suffering we've seen could have been avoided.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:46 AM
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26. But First..."THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"...
"Thank you, as soon as I heard about this hurricane I took a long 'contemplation nap', then I played my guitar, then I secured some donations, spoke to some of my economic guys, had a big meal (wooo am I stuffed!), and sped right to the white house where I met with more economic guys and energy guys. Then I took another 'worry nap' and once I was done with that, I told the white house cook, 'I'm goin' ta New Orleans, make me some cajun!' then as soon as the we could scrape up the remaining National Guard I led 'em in like the great leader I am. Don't thank me...thank God...then me."
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:54 AM
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36. It's NOT the convention center...it's the stadium -when are
they going to help the people at the convention center? which has
received NO help this entire time.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:22 PM
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49. Too many mean and dangerous people...
"NO SOUP FOR YOU UNTIL YOU SHAPE UP"
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:07 PM
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40. Unbelievable. You guys are right,. He's going to do walking in NO
could you believe it!!!

Is there going to be a banner " I saved you - Mission Accomplished"

fucking bastard.

he has to be impeached.

he has to be gone. that miserable tinpot dictator. He's responsible
for the deaths everywhere he goes.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:27 PM
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41. Could you believe this crap - mother & daughter hugging him & crying as if
he did something wonderful for them ? what did he do for them?

photo op.

he has some balls going to New Orleans. they probably picked throught the people asking who is a republican and who voted for him.
gave them baths, etc etc...

he never goes into crowds of regualr people..never.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:19 PM
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45. he needs to hug this guy, on the left:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:14 PM
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43. That worthless fuckturd needs to get out of the way
And let the supply lines grow. :argh: :nuke:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:20 PM
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47. ZW!!!
:hug:

Can you believe this? Can you fucking even begin to comprehend this?????
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:29 PM
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50. I am not sure I can!
Nor can I comprehend the level of sheer loathing and hatred I have for him and everyone in his circle jerk of power.

:hug: Jen-Jen. Good to see you up and about for all of this.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 01:21 PM
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48. This is Pure Coincidence Right?


Nahhh...
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