NEW ORLEANS MAYOR ORDERS 1,500 POLICE TO STOP SEARCHING FOR SURVIVORS

[sabra]

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

NEW ORLEANS MAYOR ORDERS 1,500 POLICE TO STOP SEARCHING FOR SURVIVORS

[Krupskaya]

1. Getting back to enforcing?

Helping with martial law?

[bpilgrim]

29. NO WDSU: Looting is LOW in NO - Not a PRIORITY ------- -------- > MP3

http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/katrina/NO-8-31-05-2427-onscene_report-wdsu-katrina.mp3

gives a great overview of the situation.

peace

[knowbody0]

2. he can order all he wants

they cannot HEAR him because there is no central communication!

[geomon666]

3. There's no choice

They're stealing generators from hospitals now. That's totally unacceptable and with no NG, it's up to the cops.

[BikeWriter]

6. Oh. crap.

[muwriter]

7. They're also starting fires. With no pipes, that could be extremely lethal

Looters need to be shot now.

[geomon666]

10. No they don't need to be shot

They need to be arrested just like anyone else would.

[davepc]

13. and jail them where? and who guards them? who feeds them?

Who decides that arrested looters and arsonists get food and water instead of displaced refugees?

there is no infrastructure to detain and arrest a destructive mob.

The 1st one who gets shot by the PD or National Guard, then the others will reevaluate if their actions are in their best interest.

[geomon666]

17. What about the people taking food?

Do we shoot them too? What about people just coming out of their house with their own belongings and the cops take them as looters, do they get shot? Where's the line drawn?

[WI Independent]

25. Of course not...

People stealing generators from hospitals, "boat-jacking" rescue boats at gunpoint, and setting houses on fire should be open season though.

[tooncesj0nes]

28. Im with you WI Independent....

.....in time I foresee less understanding and support for these looters on DU..especially when the viciousness of their actions increase with time...

[Endangered Specie]

33. Im starting to agree too...

I think looting necessities (food, water, medicine) should be ignored so long as its unarmed and no one is looting the looters with firearms.

They have got to get order back in there, and unfortunately, alot of gun stores have been loot.

However, the huge mobs that are destroying things and terrorizing other...
well, lets hope that after one falls, the rest will stop, otherwise itll be a huge bloodbath.

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[muwriter]

22. Thank you, I'm not a freep

But I have no sympathy for arsonists and people who steal hospital generators. Both of which can KILL people and in the case of fires in a city with no water pressure, a lot of people.

I can't believe people think this is alright.

[girl gone mad]

16. Start shooting them and you'll have a much bigger problem on your hands.

Plus, are you also going to start shooting the cops who are looting?

[tooncesj0nes]

31. unfortunately, N O has a notoriously corrupt police dept.

....it doesnt surprise me that they are looting. Do some research. Youll see what I mean. Who can forget the notorious 'Robocop'?

[Cha]

4. Does that mean there

aren't any? What could be more important than looking for survivors if there's a chance?

[mike_c]

5. Link? I just went to www.abcnews.com and cannot find that...

...headline.

[sabra]

8. got it via email, thought it would be on their homepage?

[mike_c]

9. I don't see it there-- do I have the right "abcnews.com"?

:shrug:

[kikiek]

11. It's in this article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_re_us/hurricane_katrina

[mike_c]

15. thanks....

eom

[seemslikeadream]

12. I just heard the same thing on CNN

[symbolman]

18. You don't have to shoot looters

just take them and handcuff them (or use chains) to any lightpole.. detained.. oops, the water is rising again, too bad I lost the key to the handcuffs..

This is BUSH's fault, the authorities cannot SAVE LIVES NOW because BUSH did NOTHING about sending in GUARDS for that purpose..

He needs to be impeached for this alone, his Marie Antoinette moment, "Let them eat cake."

[Wizard777]

19. Are they Nutz? It's only property! What are they afraid of?

All the good stuff will be gone when the managers get back. Management won't be able to say, See that big screen on the top shelf. Put it in the back of my pickup truck. The inventory says it floated away. This is pety bull shit! They have insurance and if they don't they are just to stupid to stay in Business. I think is the directive of that FEMA prick. I liked him and the Governor. Now that FEMA has moved in they are turning into Republicans. Throw those people off the boat to make more room for the inventory!

[mondo joe]

20. Oh, things like the hospital generator. Roving armed gangs and people

tryinng to protect their homes.

Yeah, why worry about things like that?

[Wizard777]

26. That is more than "looting." That is sabotaging recovery efforts.

Looting occurs at stores. Sabotage occurs at facilities. Saboteurs can be shot on sight after their is proper notification of this condition of Martial Law. This reduces the need for enforcement personel.

[mondo joe]

27. Looting occurs at big businesses, small family businesses and homes.

And there is significant risk of a lot more trouble to come.

Survivors need to be found, but they need to be protected as well.

[Wizard777]

32. No arguements here.

[tom_paine]

24. Strongly disagree, Wizard777

You can't blame them for trying to restore order. Looting can snowball, and if people get the idea that no one is going to stop them, it gets worse.

that not a white thing nor black thing, not a Dem thing nor a Bush thing...it's a human thing.

At first, they tried to stick to lifesaving, and it got worse. People setting fires, people stealing generators needed for hospitals and other important stuff.

They tried to stick to the lifesaving (for most of today they refused to go after the looter and stick to saving people), and eventually the cost of doing so became high to the degree that some of those lifesaving measures were being threatened by the looters.

I have no problem with this. You can't allow that kind of widespread craziness in a crisis situation, particularly if it's impacting lifesaving effrts.

[Wizard777]

30. I understand that. This is not "looting."

I thought they were griping about people breaking into stores. I would tollerate that until federal back up arrives. The people need food, liquids, clothes and other survival items. Even if you have 1.5M in the bank. Banks are closed you have no money. Even if you did have pocket money. They have no employees. But once help arrives that has to stop. That is all the more reason to be proactive on a disaster. You take supplies to the people they don't have to go out to forage for it. But Thank You for the update. As always it's worse than what I thought.

Maybe they are just tired of waiting for help that they might not know is on the way and are starting to pull themselves up by their own boot straps. No doubt that there are profiteers there too. But I think uncoordinated survival efforts may have begun. That can be a danger to the General Welfare. The uncoordinated efforts can sabotage coordinated efforts. How ever unintentional it may be. They need to get info the people.

[Poiuyt]

21. Don't you think it's more important to find ans save the survivors?

I seriously doubt that any merchandise will be salvageable anyway.

[bklyncowgirl]

23. They can't save survivors if the rescuers are being shot at.

I've been reading reports on this board of rescue boats being taken at gunpoint.

In the best of all possible worlds this would not happen.

This is not the best of all possible worlds. This is hell.

[Endangered Specie]

34. Indeed,

I wouldnt venture into that city without some kind of combat weapon. I imagine most survivors have already been rescued too. :shrug: