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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:40 PM
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Folks, let's face it, there will be only one reason why Bush's numbers
go down. It will have very little to do with Katrina. Not very much because of Iraq. And little, if any, due to Cindy.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PRICE OF GAS! Hell, gas could go back down to 2 bucks a gallon, and his approvals would be at 50%. It's all about me! That's how much I think of the American people.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:42 PM
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1. I'm not sure I agree
Maybe before the Hurricane and the disaster, coupled with his lack of response and the piss-poor response, people probably would have guaged their support on the price of gas.

But not now. People see the pictures, they see the devastation.

I hope and pray that people remember all of this, I have faith in the true American spirit that they will.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:55 PM
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10. Just talked to some Bushbots. Only displeasure is with gas prices
Until they lose a loved one, or have to send a loved one to Iraq, Bush will always be a "good guy" looking out for their best interests.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:57 PM
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13. True, but I have seen the opposite here
Several of my co-workers are Republicans, and they are absoloutly livid at *'s response to the Hurricane Disaster. Even one of them said that he wished he would have voted for Kerry, because Bush has done nothing.

Of course, I wanted to chime in and say "told you so", but I bit my lip.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:00 PM
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15. Yes, the "I told you" sure does want to come out, doesn't it
I wish the folks around here were like that. I only hear the bitching about the disaster hurting them at the pump. They seem to care less about New Orleans, or what is happening in Iraq. It's all about what happens to them personally.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:42 PM
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2. sad but true
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:43 PM
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3. Gas is a big factor, but I think Iraq is, too, along with the economy
When you see a large majority thinking the country is on the wrong track, it's not just one thing driving that. It's everything.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:47 PM
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5. It's absolutely everything. A cumulative effect.
The lack of local, hurricane-experienced National Guard troops in the affected areas will only serve to remind Americans of Iraq.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:08 PM
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19. I have to agree with you...
cumulative. Lord, I can hardly wait.
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solarize Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:11 PM
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20. Here in Virginia,
all of my Republican friends think the economy is doing great but that the "liberal media" is making things sound worse than they are.

They do lament the price of gas, but have no unkind words for Bush or Republicans in general. It's all the terrorists fault and Clinton for not doing more.

They believe the Iraq war is going well, that we liberated an enslaved people and that the "liberal media" aren't showing us the good parts of the war. They almost all believe that WMDs were found.

At least here, I see no reduction in love for Bush. In fact, it seems the worse he does, the more they rally around him. I don't think it is like this everywhere as this is a super-Republican stronghold (liberals tend to be closeted out here, so conservatives are very vocal and outgoing and almost can't believe it when they find one).
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:45 PM
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4. Succinctly...
...HORSESHIT....and "bite me"...
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:48 PM
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6. Good response
THat well worded response certainly put him in his place.

Now I happen to disagree with the OP as I assume you do, but I would have worded it a bit less succinctly. For example I would have sated time pointing out that some Americans might feel that way, but that many more are genuinely moved by the tragedy and genuinely upset with President Bush's handling of the both Hurricane Katrina and Iraq.

But that just semes so wordy when compared to the elegant simplicity of "horseshit." SO much easier to hurl invective rather than engaging those you disagree with.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:58 PM
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14. Thank you, Bryant.
I work and live in a community where greed is all. What happened in New Orleans only bothers them because it affects their wallets. I'm a bit jaded, for sure, but my faith in the American people continues to plummet. I guess 5 years of Bush has done that to me.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:03 PM
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17. I feel slightly chastened....
...and respect where you are coming from.But this being DU, I hope this is the worst place for that particular aspersion...on THIS board,that person has never had much support and to float the idea here that support is tied to gasoline prices is provocative and unfair.The OP posted and I responded....
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:14 PM
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21. Huh???
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 04:15 PM by Ishoutandscream2
Is this about post counts? How do you know I "never had much support?" My former name was Ishoutandscream and had way over a thousand posts. I had to re-register when my computer crashed at work and I purchased a new computer at home.

Thinking my response is unfair is fair; saying "bite me" is not. That would not be a good way to welcome a "newbe" would it? Maybe if I had 10 million posts you would have changed your remarks.

By the way, you may see several posts here that agree with my assumption.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:56 PM
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11. Chomp! Delicious!!!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:49 PM
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7. They keep changing the price outside...
It keeps going up and up. They think it will stabalize. Bush says he is doing something....he's taking more money out of my pocket. The reserves will be used up and he and lance can lead a tour around crawford.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:49 PM
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8. I agree 100%.
If the sheeple feel pain in their wallet, they'll abandon the Party of Greed. Otherwise, a $300 tax cut gets them everytime.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:51 PM
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9. Unfortunately, the ...
...baby boomer generation (a member of which I am) that now holds title to this once great nation is, as you say, "all about me." This rips away at the fabric of our society daily. We're starting to see the terribly high price we, and especially our children, will now be required to pay for this. Very depressing.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:03 PM
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16. Me, too, Mr. Jefferson
As boomers, we truly are reaping what we have sewn. And for my children and grandchildren, it will be worse. I weep for my nation. I weep for my planet.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 03:57 PM
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12. Yep. Its all about the wallet.
The average dumbass cares about one thing, his wallet. If you made him/her a deal and said look, 1800 people(many poor and minorities so no biggie right?) are going to die fighting for a lie but its nobody you know and gas will be 1.20. Most of them would nod quietly yes and walk away.

Its all about the gas and their wallet.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 04:07 PM
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18. Absolutely. I would pay 5 bucks a gallon if that meant
that no more Americans would have to serve and die in the Middle East. You are so right - many would rather pay a buck and have others sacrificing and dying to keep it that way. It sickens me to no end.
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