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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 11:58 PM
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Are the neocons/PNACers screwing with Junior?
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 12:09 AM by TwoSparkles
I was reading some of the PNAC documents and I noticed that Junior isn't one of the signatories.

I find that quite revealing.

I'm sure this notion has been bandied about a great deal, but it's becoming increasingly clear to me that Bush is nothing but a front man who is following PNAC marching orders like a lap-dog intern.

Junior's extended (and unprecedented) vacations remind me that he is not needed. He is not steering this ship. He's an empty suit--a presentable, supposedly likable figurehead that served as the electable facade.

They needed someone likable. Also--they needed someone gullible, malleable and weak. They selected Junior--an ace bullshitter with weak ego strength from his years of goofing off, alcoholism and numerous business failures. The perfect blob of clay they could mold.

My guess is that Junior doesn't even understand the gravity of what surrounds him. I bet they send him out of the room when they discuss important matters. However, Junior's name is all over their policies. If something crashes or is unpopular--no worry to the PNACers--Bush takes the heat, not them.

They invaded Iraq in his name. They plan to dismantle Social Security in his name--an act that no politician ever dared to touch. They craft policies that make rich their friends and family--in his name. They continue this failed war--based on lies--in his name. They've used him to further their agenda and they could care less what happens to his polls or popularity. Junior is just the lap dog that they set out front.

And now they send him on a month-long vacation.

What are they doing? What are they planning?

No wonder Junior looks so stressed. He knows what they're capable of and he knows whatever they do will be done in his name.



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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:02 AM
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1. Junior is a true believer
he buys it hook, line, and sinker.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:08 AM
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5. You think so?
I'm really wondering, because I get the sense that he's dumber than a stick.

I don't think he has a clue about anything. I doubt he could find Iraq on a map. He probably can't spell PNAC. :)

Seriously though--he wasn't one of the PNAC signers. He doesn't seem deep enough to really adopt a radical agenda like that. He just doesn't strike me as someone who would care that much about anything.

His unprecedented vacation time reveals that he's really not into it.

My guess is that they send him away to get him out of the way--while they plan the important stuff.


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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:13 AM
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7. You are correct
It isn't difficult to manipulate the feeble minded. I've wondered about this also, and agree with your assessment. They tell him what he needs to know, and that is fine with both. He just wanted to be prezdent, and they wanted to implement their radical agenda. It's a match made in Hell.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:04 AM
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2. "What are they doing? What are they planning?"
I'm just waiting for the other boot to fall on our heads.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:11 AM
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6. Me too...
...and it's really hard to think that and to live like that.

I worry about my children and their future.

I worry about what is next.

Not fun.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:06 AM
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3. Part of me thinks that you are right on target...
But there's this other part of me that says Junior knows exactly what he is doing. That he is not as stupid as he acts. That he is power hungry, and has a strong drive to take over the world. I really think he believes this "forcing democracy all over the world" crap. And sometimes I wonder if he even has a clue how poorly things have gone in Iraq and Afghanistan. And if these 2 failed wars will stop him from going after Iran and Venezuela. To me, he is a very scary psycho.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:07 AM
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4. Don't believe for a moment that Dimson is being led around by the nose.
He knows precisely what he's doing. And brother Jeb's name appears on a document out there.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:18 AM
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8. But why isn't Junior a PNAC signer???
Why is Jeb's name on the PNAC memos, but not Juniors'?

Doesn't that strike anyone else as odd?

Supposedly, the man who is leading this massive US takeover of the world--starting with Iraq--was not affiliated with the people who developed the entire agenda.

But his brother is, and so are most of the major players in Junior's administration?

It's strange.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:34 AM
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9. My guess would be those aren't all the PNAC docs, just a select few.
Who knows what Bush**'s name might appear on?

But whether he's signed anything or not is moot. He goes along with their ideas, he sells them to the American people. Don't pity or try to excuse the man. Any way you cut it he's a traitor to the Republic.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:42 AM
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10. Yes, I read the PNAC documents
and I noticed Jeb's signature at the bottom. And you're right: Einstein's signature is not there.

I don't know if we can infer anything from that, though.

Does it mean that he's a stooge? Or is he really the cunning schemer that some people feel he is?

It used to drive me crazy, trying to figure that one out. And I wasn't alone. He is the strangest man I've ever encountered. He's such a Cornucopia of dysfunctions and weird behavior that you just don't know.

And I know I'm not the only one. Probably a good 20% of all the posts are about the mystery that is - George Bush.

After all this time & wasted brain power, I still don't know.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:42 AM
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11. Duhbyas name can't be part of it....
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 12:43 AM by TheGoldenRule
because if it was then it would be obvious to all what the real plan is. By leaving his name off, all any of us can do is guess and speculate and wonder if this is REALLY what they are all up to. Duhbyas name on it would leave no doubt.

I'd also say he's in on it ALL. He just doesn't do any of the dirty work. He lets others like Cheney and Rove scheme and plan and gives them the go ahead. That's why he can take so much time off and have a 5 week vacation in the summer.

:puke:

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