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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:36 PM
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Please tell us why you support your candidate
and stop all of these bullshit attacks on your candidate's primary opponents. If you really support a candidate, then you will be very happy to tell us why you like them. If you think your candidate is weak, then you will try to cut down his opponents, in order to give him a chance to win.
Some of the attacks in this forum are so far off base, that I'm sure they're being posted by people of dubious Democratic loyalty.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:38 PM
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1. Because I like him best
But I have never, and will never bash another Dem candidate because I like them ALL for various reasons. Some more than others, of course, but you can take my promise to the bank. :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:38 PM
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2. Well sure
My candiate I really like him on the issues for example he opposes the death penalty, wants to make war rare as it comes, and etc, plus I like Dennis Kucinich he really is a good guy and he proves to me that the American dream can be revived because he wasnt so fortunate growing up. I really like how he voted against the patriot act.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:40 PM
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3. Because we need to get Bush the hell out of office.
And Clark can do it, by appealing to the independent vote as not a far left hippie who's weak on defense. This is necessary especially after 9-11.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:45 PM
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4. I've decided to support Kerry. Why?
Because he makes the most sense to me. I was teetering between Kerry and Dean but the last Dem debate sealed it for me. I think Dean took Geppy's comment completely out of context and over-reacted, not a quality I'd like to see in a President. I love Geppy but understand he'd better in the VP position. Same for Graham. Clark I'm afraid of, call it woman's intuition, but something about him doesn't click for me, don't trust him.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:51 PM
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6. I like Kerry too...
He has the military career behind him enough to get the absentee military vote and has a very respectable career as a politician. He's also highly intelligent, has a good demeanor, and a great reputation on both sides of the fence on Capital Hill. He's the best all around candidate to push democratic values in this neocon spiral that washington dc seems to be in.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:55 PM
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7. Many People say Dean handled geppy's attack on Dean Well...
so the perception is in the eye of the beholder...I don't like kerry because of his vote for the Iraqi Resolution and gephardt for his standing shoulder to shoulder with bush in the rose garden undercutting Tom Daschel's attempts to not pass the Resolution.

Dean is my candidate of choice because Dean has been against bush from the get go and I think he's done an Excellent job of taking the fight directly to the frontlines of the bushwa. Dean is the one who has gotten Dems to be being Proud of being Dems again! :kick:
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:04 PM
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11. Read the transcript, the comment was taken out of context and
Dean over-reacted, he was visibley flustered when Kerry backed up what Geppy said. As I said, I was teetering between Dean and Kerry.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:23 PM
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15. I Did read the "transcript"...and I thought Dean handled geppy's
little snarky attack Well!

:dem:Dean.. takin' it to the People.. the Grassroots campaign that is making History!:kick:
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:37 PM
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17. OK, If you read the transcript, how can you not say Dean took the
comment out of context? I mean if Dean came out tomorrow and said, "Hey, I thought about what I said and I misunderstood Dick," I'd probabley reconsider. Ah, but politics are such that one must not admit a misstep.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:56 PM
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19. Dean does admit when he mis speaks...so I'm not concerned
about that..I'm proud of my candidate!


I'll repeat...I don't think Dean took the attack by gep out of context.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:09 PM
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20. huh?
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Former Republican Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:50 PM
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5. Gephardt
because he fought NAFTA, represents unions, is hated by corporations, looks like a nice guy, has a funny appealing way of speaking, doesn't have much against him (the only thing GOP.org has against him is that he's a protectionist, as though that's an insult), is electable, is German-American (make it easier for him to connect with Europe, maybe), coined "miserable failure", made a cogent attack against Dean.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:56 PM
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8. Absolutely but Geppy lacks charisma...
as I stated, I'm from MO, love Geppy but just don't think he'll get the nomination but would make a wonderful VP.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:00 PM
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10. Gephardt I thought that was German
I am part thats what Kleeb is. My candiate Dennis Kucinich is Croatian and Irish. How were you once a republican? you seem real liberal on economic issues, I really like Gephardt for the reasons you do. I like Kucinich still though but it would be a big victory for the working men and women of America if Gephardt was elected.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:08 PM
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13. Excuse me if I'm intruding but I'd like to say I...
love Kuninich but just don't think he'll get the nomination or be asked to be VP. He did wonderfully in the debate, said all I needed to hear from a candidate. 'Tis unfortunate, I think.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:12 PM
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14. Well thats the majority concesus view here
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 07:19 PM by JohnKleeb
Most have positive things to say but no chance etc but hey at least you arent giving the superfical reasons.
But thank you for the honesty. However I believe in fighting for the future I believe in. Thats ok, I just wish people the media paid attention, its like hes invisible.
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 06:57 PM
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9. His message is the only one of its kind
Dennis Kucinich is not corporate owned or operated, he works for the people of the United States. He is one of the only candidates challenging the slide to one-party rule (which is worse, a republican or a just-the-same-as-a-republican?). He wants to extricate our soldiers from Bush's mess in Iraq, and is the only one who took steps to prevent this mess from happening. Of course, with all the candidates who were backing Bush, that didn't stand much chance of happening. He is a common man's representative, not a part of any priveleged upper class.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:06 PM
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12. Kerry is electible - he has an amazing energy
and has a record to back up his positions. He is almost invincible - he has not sealed his records - his political history is an open book - he supports ALL of us - environment - health care, etc, etc. He doesn't waffle on issues - he stands strong and he is an amazing debater. I can't wait til he goes one on one.
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catforclark2004 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:34 PM
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16. why Clark is running for President and why I support him:
My Theory of why Clark is running for President and why I support him:

General Clark was holed up for many years serving his country in the military, which is a mini representation of a country...with it's own culture,language, needs, social and economical challenges. The reason that most military tend to favor Republicans is due to the fact that they are the ones that tend to enlarge the military budget. Clark has long internally worked in areas to benefit his soldiers, their status and their well being. Note that the military is a place where censorship of information is a way of life. so the bias within it's rank, until the avent of the internet is understantable.

I believe that Clark's disenchantment with the Republican party occurred long ago, and it is a fact that since 1992 has been voting Democratic. That is when he realized that there was a real battle going on in the Bush I administration, the state dept and the military. Neo-cons were battling Bush I (who was from the old school), who although had a lot of neo-conservative influence in his administration, was not totally on board. General Clark, based on his experience and knowledge must have understood that it would be only a matter of time before the neo-cons would gain ground(Dan Quayle is a neo-con).

General Clark became an outspoken critic of the Neo-con military henchman imbedded in Clinton's military (career military neo-cons)who where strongly attempting to influence the Clinton foreign policy (remember the 1998 letter written by wolfowitz, etal. in reference to the Iraq policy). General Clark, broke rank and went over the heads of his superiors in the military branch (as they were all neo-cons) and spoke out against them directly to the Clinton administration and the State department.

In 1999, the entrenched Neo-con bureaucratic military was able to engineer the firing of General Clark (retiring him 3 months early)with a manipulative plan aimed at Clinton and Secretary of Defense Cohens. President Clinton later did find out what had occurred, and attempted to make it up to General Clark by awarding him with the Medal of Freedom (highest civilian award medal).

What we have here is a General, the anti neo-con ideologue, who truly understands what these neo-cons are planning (reads the PNAC plan). He understood that 9/11 gave the Neo-cons the kind of power that would not have been possible otherwise. He also understands what it will take to stop these Neo-con...to have someone who knows the Military inside and out....who has the power to redox the military bureaucracy (he knows who they are) to oust those who are in positions of power. The military is not an easy entity to reign in....and it has to be done in the most strategic manner straight from the upmost top, i.e. Commander in Chief. As we have witnessed, the State Department and congress have little power to leverage against the Military...who are now stronger than ever.

As one of the many voices criticizing the war in Iraq (part I of the Neo-Con plan), Clark realized that he was just one of too few voices at a time when dissent was being gagged and those opposing the administration were being branded as traitors. Although his appearance on CNN provided him with somewhat of a voice, it wasn't not enough. In fact, he was shocked how easy it was for the Neo-cons to have it their way.

General Clark is currently mad as hell and for the good of the country, has decided that he is not going to allow the PNACers to have it their way. Those sympathizing with him, the DLC wing/Clinton, etal...determined that General Clark could do something.....He could run for President on the Democratic ticket and stop the Neo-cons "dead in their tracks".

General Clark himself cannot be a Neo-con....as he is too intelligent, too patriotic and no chickenhawk (he took 4 bullets in Vietnam).

The Neo-Con plan affect all of America and the world. The American economy is being syphoned to the larger industrial complex and will starve off the treasury, i.e., the Government. The affects to Social Security, Health Care, education, and most all other social programs will be unreversable within the next few years (if Bush is reelected). With a large percentage of the current budget going toward military operations, the Project for the New American Century of Military Global dominance is well on its way of achieving its written purpose.

I believe that General Clark, just like he cared for his soldiers and their interests, will give the same kind of care to the population of the United States. That is, he will fight for us and he will make sure that our priorities are met.

To conclude, I support my candidate, General Clark, because he has the inside track in restoring the World Order to the betterment of all nations. I believe that he will Guide our nation back to sanity by listening, learning, reflecting and taking concrete but wise action.

He is well educated, thoughtful (Masters in philosophy, politics and Econ), articulate (speaks Russian, Spanish & French), diplomatic (negotiated 19 country NATO command), a passionate patriot (four bullets in Vietnam is not a small thing), and humble. I do intensely believe that his charisma, gravitas, moxie and diplomatic abilities will make him one of the great President for this time in history.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 07:45 PM
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18. Because my candidate supports me.
He's been there for me from the beginning saying what needs to be said. He has an excellent record of Governing in Vermont, and he's got sound-reasonable positions on the issues.

:loveya:
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