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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:08 PM
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Crawford numbnuts seek ordinance expanding no park zone..
Yahoo News
Some Seek Restrictions Near Bush Ranch By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer
22 minutes ago
WACO, Texas - Some of President Bush's neighbors asked county leaders Tuesday to prevent large gatherings near the Crawford ranch like the ongoing anti-war protest led by a mother of a soldier who died in Iraq.
Several residents have complained of blocked roads and traffic jams in the last week since dozens of people joined Cindy Sheehan's protest by pitching tents off the winding, two-lane road leading to Bush's ranch.
The petition with more than 60 signatures was submitted to the McLennan County commission, asking the board to expand a no-parking zone that now bans cars within a few hundred feet of the ranch. If the ordinance passes, demonstrators probably would have to stay in Crawford, which is 7 miles away.
Some residents said they worried about the safety of children waiting for school buses in the area. Schools began classes Tuesday.
Noting that an anti-war protester raised civil-rights concerns about the ordinance, petition-signer John Laufenberg told commissioners: "All those of us that live in that area and in that community and our children also have civil rights, and we do feel that those are being seriously compromised at this time."
About a dozen people from the camp attended Tuesday's meeting, though Sheehan did not. The protesters acknowledged the area has been crowded but said they have kept it clean and quiet.
"I would encourage the commission to weigh heavily the First Amendment rights that we have, because that's really the fundamental thing: free speech, the ability to protest, legitimate dissent in a democracy," said Ann Wright, who has been in charge of the site.
The group has set up camp in shallow ditches, but people congregate on the roads, causing cars to stop or slow down. Some drivers have blown their horns continuously while maneuvering around the crowd, and several have yelled, "Go home!"
Tension between residents and the groups has been building.
A resident was arrested Monday night after authorities say he ran over hundreds of small wooden crosses bearing names of fallen U.S. soldiers. On Sunday, a nearby landowner fired his shotgun twice into the air, but he was not arrested. No one was hurt in either incident.
On Saturday, hundreds of cars — anti-war demonstrators and Bush supporters attending counter rallies — were parked on both shoulders for miles. Traffic was at a crawl for about an hour.
Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., started the vigil Aug. 6 and vows to stay through Bush's monthlong ranch visit unless he meets with her and other grieving families.
She has promised to return to the area whenever Bush goes to his ranch. Bush said he sympathizes with Sheehan but has made no indication that he will meet with her. She did meet with Bush in June 2004, at a gathering at Fort Lewis, Wash., for grieving families.
Protests are not unusual when Bush stays at his ranch, but most are within the Crawford city limits. Sheehan's anti-war demonstration is the longest, most publicized and closest to the ranch.
The commission will publicize the petition and advertise a public hearing, to be held in about four weeks. Then, county commissioners will vote on the ordinance.

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:32 PM
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1. public hearing won't be held for another four weeks
This gives Camp Casey some time.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:39 PM
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3. True, but the petition is broad
to encompass ALL gatherings, not specifically Camp Casey. If approved, it sets up to quash all future gatherings of citizens in the area.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:06 PM
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6. Unconstitutional. Will send a case for the cause.
Recent ruling.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:19 PM
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10. This might help
American-Arab Antidiscrimination Committee v. City of Dearborn 6th Circuit Case #04-1433.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:11 PM
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9. Wow away with the right to assemble n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:03 PM
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4. Yes.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:08 PM
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15. It doesn't matter, Cindy just got permission to move to other location
by private land-owner, she's supposed to move today or tomorrow. More land and room to set-up!
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 06:43 AM
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19. I heard, and I agree! n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:38 PM
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2. Oh goody! A case for the Supremes!
Sounds like "Free Speech Zones" just might have some sort of SC ruling for the 2008 elections. Gee, I wonder what Robert's "judicial philosophy" on this one will be.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:04 PM
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5. They have been given an acre of land near the Crawford "ranch"
by a neighbor of Bush. New campsite. They are out of the ditch.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:08 PM
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7. Yes, but still need to fight this unconstitutional attempt to
silence voices against the war.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:09 PM
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8. I'm iterpreting this request to try to circumvent people from
having a place to park their vehicles to enter that land. If I understood correctly, this man has land on both sides of the road? I'm assuming some arrangement could be made to cordon of part to use as parking? Are these people asking that the public right away adjacent to the land be declared private land?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:54 PM
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13. There has to be access, they are just being ridiculous.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:25 PM
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11. Hmmm. The Crawford Numbnuts. Good Triple A Baseball name.
I can't believe they have a chance in hell of getting the ordinance.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:31 PM
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12. Too bad New Yorkers didn't attempt this during the Repuke Convention
Wasn't a whole section of midtown closed to one degree or another over four days? Same in Boston for the Dem Convention? They can shut down public street access for their political functions and tough nuggies on the people, huh?
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:05 PM
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14. Public roads are also open to the public
go figure. I'll walk down any damned road I please you shit-kickers.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:35 PM
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16. This is what Repubs are about
They always want laws narrowly tailored to an individual or group, with an expectation that the good ole boy law enforcement they employ will not burden them personally with enforcement or accountability.

This is their idea of a free world.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:14 AM
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17. Look how this piece calls Loon Larry Northern a "resident"
He lives 25 miles away for Christ's sake.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:29 AM
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18. I remember Freepers protesting Al Gore's house in 2000.
There wasn't an ordinance passed against the freepers protest.
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