OMG, we got a SWING vote from the Republicans! Hagel!!!!

[ShaneGR]

Ok, I've seen him several times now bashing the *'s, bashing the postwar planning, bashing Rice, bashing the CIA, and here's the whopper.... he's on the Foreign Relations Committee.

The question is, why?

Lets take a look at http://congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=365&lvl=C.

Ok, Hagel is from Nebraska (hmmmm.... go Cornhuskers!) and he won re-election last year in 2002 with 83% of the vote. So, he don't give a crap about his job security, he's there until 2008 no matter what.

Why is this even better? All that has to happen is for Rockefeller (Ranking Dem) to call for an open investigation and Hagel swings the vote. OMG, this is great!

[DagmarK]

1. Fuck, he's a major shareholder in Diebold.......

OF COURSE he won by 83%! Lots of questions about his "win"

But.....I appreciate the daggars toward Bush.

[DODI]

3. The Beast

I think we will see more and more republicans move away from this adminstration, Alexander seems to be against the Clear Skies crap, there have been resignations galore, Hagel is being what I would call reasonable. They are seeing the beast and running! The stuff they have been throwing at the wall ain't sticking anymore.

[Bushfire]

8. It's not Diebold, it's ES&S

http://www.thehill.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx

One underlying issue is whether Hagel properly disclosed his financial ties to Election Systems & Software (ES&S), a company that makes nearly half the voting machines used in the United States, including all those used in his native Nebraska.

ES&S is a subsidiary of McCarthy Group Inc., which is jointly held by the holding firm and the Omaha World-Herald Co., which publishes the state’s largest newspaper. The voting machine company makes sophisticated optical scan and touch-screen vote-counting devices that many states have begun buying in recent years.

An official at Nebraska’s Election Administration estimated that ES&S machines tallied 85 percent of the votes cast in Hagel’s 2002 and 1996 election races.

[Punkingal]

2. Hagel is an approach-avoidance conflict for me......

because he often talks like a sensible, fair person, but then he's the one who ownded (owns) Diebold, isn't he?

[ShaneGR]

4. Hmmmm.... who knows... jere's a good example though

If I owned a big share in Enron stock, does that mean I was in cahoots with Ken Lay? Just a thought, I really don't know.

[DODI]

6. I too owned some Diebold -- we are still stuck with Rowland

I guess the point is -- by rook or crook he won't be removed and can speak his mind. Their own trick working against them?

[tomp]

5. i'll take anyone's opposition to bush...

...at any time up until we have him on the ropes without their help. and even then, i will not forget every day they did not oppose bush. i will take any vote any time that moves this country forward but i will not forget the votes that got us to this ungodly point in history. and i will never trust anyone who is a major shareholder in diebold and got 83% of the vote.

[Cha]

7. Yeah ..I've been hearing about Hagel lately concerning his..

"win" in Nebraska.

The other guy Hagel was running against was favored to win but Hagel beat him in the Black districts(and believe me Hagel never did anything for them), too. And they told him they didn't vote for Hagel!

And it turns out it was on voting machines that Hagel had part ownership in and they program them, too!

I heard the man he ran against on the radio yesterday and he said he wasn't even allowed to question it..

No paper trail.

Even if there is nothing wrong (which I doubt!) The impropriety stinks to high hell.

:kick:

[Donna Zen]

9. Hagel

Hagel is an internationalist...The following is from a friend and a person who goes way back in the Wellstone camp.

Another Clark friend and important Republican Senator is Chuck Hagle who has big problems over Iraq and the current regime in the Pentagon. He has the same ag-food industry economic base as Lugar. Hagle has always fashioned himself as the heir to George Norris -- a progressive Republican who backed FDR almost 100% between 33 and 1944. I could see him being quietly very supportive of a Clark Candidacy. The key thing for Democrats to think about is who we can support who would have the effect of isolating the right in Republican Circles -- the Delays. That is perhaps what Clark offers us.

FWIW, look for Lugar to make a move.

[avtho]

10. Chuck is a republican

but one of those old-fashioned honest honorable one. I don't agree with him most of the time, but I respect him and he understands war and combat.

His aides assured me he was detached from the election machine thing. They do call me ever so often even tho I have told them every time I am a Democrat and would never vote for Chuck. UNLESS he runs against Bush for president.

McCain and Hagel for pres and vp. I think you could believe them if they went to war somewhere, but they are honest men. I think.

Of course I would only vote for them if the dems had no chance.