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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:21 PM
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"If the notion of a timely, legal heads-up from inside a Republican ...
... administration during the early days of a burgeoning scandal sounds familiar, it should. We've seen this act before, specifically during Iran-Contra, which ultimately crippled president Reagan's second term. Back then, the tip-off came from Reagan's AG and devoted troubleshooter, Ed Meese. Working from the inside and determined to protect the president, Meese's sloppy, out-of-the-gate legal work conveniently gave key Iran-Contra players, Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and former national security advisor John Poindexter, ample time to destroy relevant documents regarding the White House's illegal arms-for-hostage initiative.

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So on the night of Sept. 29, 2003, the Justice Department, then run by president Bush's hyper-political AG John Ashcroft, called the White House counsel's office, manned by one of Bush's most devoted Texas allies, Alberto Gonzales, to give the word that a criminal investigation was underway regarding the outing of a CIA operative. Gonzales then immediately informed the president's number two man, Chief of Staff Andrew Card but we're supposed to assume that that sensitive information—news of the first high-profile probe targeting Bush's WH aides--just went to bed with Card and Gonzales, and that nobody talked to, say, Karl Rove or Scooter Libby, giving them a chance to play beat the clock? (The official clock started ticking 12 hours later when Gonzales got around to informing the White House staff about the DOJ probe and noting that all relevant materials should be preserved.)

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From The Ghost of Ed Meese by Eric Boehlert on July 25, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/eric-boehlert/the-ghost-of-ed-meese_4649.html



As opposed to Iran-Contra, what we confront is an attack on the core of America; the willful destruction of the Republic.

What we now know for certain is that an honest and thorough investigation will uncover evidence of the willful deception of the American people, the Congress, the UN and our allies as to the truth - Iraq was not a threat.

What we also know without any doubt is the Administration willfully disclosed a CIA covert officer and an intelligence infrastructure focused on weapons of mass destruction.

One of the best summaries of the deception appeared on Sunday in an Baltimore Sun Editorial.

War Stories

Baltimore Sun Editorial


July 24, 2005

The Plame-Wilson-Novak-Rove-Libby-Cooper-Miller-Fitzgerald drama is more than a case of the usual hardball style of White House politics straying a little too far over the line. It's different, because it gets at the very heart of the way in which the U.S. went to war in 2003. The Bush administration decided to justify a war with Iraq on the threat posed by weapons of mass destruction. Plenty of people thought it likely that Iraq possessed nerve agents and biological arms, because the circumstantial evidence was fairly persuasive. Yet there was an unavoidable problem, from the administration's point of view: Even if those stocks had existed, they were a fundamentally insufficient reason to launch an attack. Containment was clearly working. Iraq had putatively possessed such arms for years, and had not used any of them since before the first Persian Gulf war. Iraq, moreover, had no means to launch a biological or chemical attack on New York or St. Louis or Oshkosh, Wis. It posed no threat to the United States.

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That July brought the article by Joseph C. Wilson IV, the diplomat and husband of Valerie Plame, in which he wrote that he had gone to Niger and reported back to Washington - a full year earlier - that the story was groundless. What this did was to demonstrate that the excitement over Iraq's supposed uranium purchases in the months leading up to the war wasn't a mistake, or an exaggeration. It was a lie.

This was Mr. Wilson's sin. The nuclear threat was the only justification for the urgency of war, and not only was it baseless but because of what he wrote, it was now clear that the architects of the war knew it was baseless.

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This is the context in which the continuing investigation by the special prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, must be viewed. This is not simply about the Karl Rove brand of politics taken too far, but about the fabrication that launched a war.

Link:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/bal-ed.wilson24jul24,1,5383336.story


What we must understand is that the scope of deception extends to everything being done by Bush and the neoconsters.

We are living within a coup d'etat - the destruction of the American Republic. Among the most articulate accountings of the coup was published today by Chris Floyd.

The United States long ago ceased to be anything like a living, thriving republic. But it retained the legal form of a republic, and that counted for something: As long as the legal form still existed, even as a gutted shell, there was hope it might be filled again one day with substance.

But now the very legal structures of the Republic are being dismantled. The principle of arbitrary rule by an autocratic leader is being openly established, through a series of unchallenged executive orders, perverse Justice Department rulings and court decisions by sycophantic judges who defer to power -- not law -- in their determinations. What we are witnessing is the creation of a "commander-in-chief state," where the form and pressure of law no longer apply to the president and his designated agents. The rights of individuals are no longer inalienable, nor are their persons inviolable; all depends on the good will of the Commander, the military autocrat.

President George W. Bush has granted himself the power to declare anyone on earth -- including any U.S. citizen -- an "enemy combatant," for any reason he sees fit. He can render them up for torture, he can imprison them for life, he can even have them killed, all without charges, with no burden of proof, no standards of evidence, no legislative oversight, no appeal, no judicial process whatsoever except those that he himself deigns to construct, with whatever limitations he cares to impose. Nor can he ever be prosecuted for any order he issues, however criminal; in the new American system laid out by Bush's legal minions, the Commander is sacrosanct, beyond the reach of any law or constitution.

This is not hyperbole. It is simply the reality of the United States today.

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From Master Plan: The Rise of the Commander-in Chief State by Chris Floyd on July 25, 2005

Link:

http://www.bushwatch.com/floyd.htm



Mr Floyd notes that "There has been virtually no institutional resistance to this open coup d'etat. It's now clear that the American Establishment -- and a significant portion of the American people -- have given up on the democratic experiment."

And, that is not an accident. It is the consequence of just how aggressively and pervasively the "Master Plan" has been pursued by the necons; and infused by the vast corporate media propagandists.

With the publication of Robert Merry's Sands of Empire:Missionary Zeal, American Foreign Policy, and the Hazards of Global Ambition we have as clear a picture of the intrepid zeal of the neoconsters in their crusade for world-domination. David Corn recently reviewed 'the anti-Neocon' Robert Merry:

His book is the most scorching mainstream critique of the neocons and their misadventure in Iraq that I have encountered. Merry, the publisher of Congressional Quarterly and a former reporter for The Wall Street Journal, rips apart that small band of ideologically driven chickenhawks and leaves their bones scattered on the floor of a Council of Foreign Relations conference room. Merry is a hard-ass practitioner of global realpolitik. There is not a smidgeon of sentiment in a single sentence of this book. He's certainly not keeping company with one-worlders and those who would identify (or misidentify, in his view) American national security interests with feel-good global humanitarianism. But in a classic example of that old Middle East cliché — the enemy of my enemy is my friend — he has produced a book that liberal-minded foreign policy folks ought to gobble up. And I would dare the neocons to enter Merry's knife-throwing gallery.

His high-minded goal was to pen an intellectual history that traced the ideas that led — over decades — to George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. (Let's assume that ideas had something to do with it.) Merry does reach back far, reviewing the works and notions of such profound ponderers as the Abbé Charles-Irénée Castel de Saint-Pierre (who postulated that humankind was on an inevitable journey toward further enlightenment and civilization), Oswald Spengler (the chronicler of the ups and downs of civilizations), and such big-idea moderns as Frances Fukuyama (the premature prophet of the End of History), Samuel Huntington (the advocate of the Clash of Civilizations), and Thomas Friedman (the cheerleader for the Glory of Globalization). Merry suggests that in the broadest terms there are two ideas that have motivated Western thought: the Idea of Progress (humankind is on a never-ending advance), and the Cycle of History (history is the story of civilizations that rise and then fall; screw progress). And a corollary to the Cycle of History view, he notes, is Huntington's Clash of Civilizations, which suggests that not only is progress not inevitable but that conflict between civilizations is. The capital letters are his.

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Merry is talking about wrestling with realities. The neocons speak of redefining reality — which also can become ignoring reality. Remember Dick Cheney's promise that American troops in Iraq would be welcomed as liberators? Merry does, and he catalogues all the false assumptions made by the neocons and Bush's foreign policy team:

"This litany of misstatements, misperceptions, faulty thinking and off-the-mark predictions raises a question: how could so many highly intelligent people be so wrong? The only answer is that they stumbled into a classic case of ideological policymaking — viewing the world through the prism of a rigid ideology, and then placing the pieces together to fit that ideological picture."


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From The Anti-Neocon by David Corn published at TomPaine.common sense on July 20, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.tompaine.com/print/the_antineocon.php


We can distill the situation we confront to the simple reality that we are either willing participants of the neoconster coup d'etat or not.

If not, then our task firstly requires blunt, unrelenting discourse with every person we can contact. Whether in a check-out line or at a ball game or on a coffee break, we must encourage all our fellow Americans to call it what it is:

TREASON.

WAR CRIMES.

TORTURE.

DICTATORSHIP.





Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:27 PM
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1. Who could forget the lovely Fawn Hall? n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:49 PM
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4. Ah, yes. Ms Hall .........

John Duricka / AP file

"In exchange for her testimony she was granted immunity and she confessed to shredding a large number of documents."

For those not familiar with Ms Hall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_Hall

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_05.htm



Among the consequences of a Commander-in-Chief who lies his way to war

http://www.newsparkproductions.org


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us



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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:42 PM
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2. I have come to call it the ultimate betrayal.
The corporacultists intentionally betrayed our values, our laws, our security, our country, our military and our people. In the course of carrying out that ultimate betrayal, they committed treason, fraud, war crimes, embezzlement, bribery, torture and murder.

They are a deadly disease.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:03 PM
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6.  coup d'etat - the destruction of the American Republic!
It is a coup d'etat most definetly...
evil through and through!
hiley
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:46 PM
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3.  see old articles i had in my files!! regarding this and ashcroft!
see old article i had in my files!!
and the media is just catching onto this now when so many of us were emailing and calling them demanding truth and articles about it at the time?? they should all be ashamed ..and then celled us tin foil hats then..or just bloggers..well many of my internet group were calling writing letters and screaming about it when this was going on ..we were all screaming..shredders in the white house!


http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/100903A.shtml

Click here: t r u t h o u t - White House Lawyers Reviewing Evidence Before Justice Department

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Go to Original

Bush Aides Will Review Leak Notes
By David Jackson
The Dallas Morning News

Tuesday 07 October 2003

White House's decision to give first look to its lawyers riles Democrats
White House lawyers will review phone logs and other records supplied by presidential aides before turning the documents over to the Justice Department officials conducting the investigation into who leaked a CIA undercover operative's identity, officials said Monday.

The disclosure inspired new Democratic calls for an independent inquiry.

"To allow the White House counsel to review records before the prosecutors would see them is just about unheard of in the way cases are always prosecuted," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., speaking on NBC's Today show. "And the possibility of mischief, or worse than mischief, is very, very large."

Administration officials said the White House counsel's office may need up to two weeks to organize documents that some 2,000 employees are required to submit by 5 p.m. Tuesday.

The documents must also be reviewed for national security or executive privilege concerns and to ensure the filings are responsive to Justice Department requests for information, White House aides said. The department is investigating whether Bush administration officials exposed a CIA operative's identity to reporters and a columnist, Robert Novak.

Bush: 'Criminal action'
President Bush underscored his concern about the leak Monday, telling reporters: "We're talking about a criminal action."

The president said information would be submitted to the Justice Department "on a timely basis," calling the investigation "a very serious matter, and our administration takes it seriously."

"I'd like to know who leaked," Mr. Bush added. "And if anybody has got any information, inside our government or outside our government, who leaked, they ought to take it to the Justice Department so we can find out the leaker."

White House officials are required to turn in any documents they may have related to the principals in the matter, including former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, his wife, Valerie Plame, and any reporters who were contacted about the couple.

White House spokeswoman Ashley Snee said she could not put a timeline on when the documents might be turned over to the Justice Department but said the review would be expeditious.

"It's going to be done with the intent of getting to the bottom of this," Ms. Snee said. "This is almost 2,000 people."

Mr. Schumer and other Democrats have called for an outside special counsel, questioning whether Attorney General John Ashcroft can fairly investigate his patrons at the White House.

Mr. Bush defended his Justice Department, saying, "These are ... professional


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ashcroft gave rove plenty of time to destroy his records... as did tenet! from july 14th to late september!

and do see from my files how rove and acroft were tied to each other!!
http://www.democracynow.org/static/roveashcroft.shtml


The Ashcroft-Rove Connection: The Ties That Blind
By Amy Goodman, Jeremy Scahill and the staff of Democracy Now!


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Rove is best known as the driving force behind Bush's taking of the presidency, but he also worked for Ashcroft over the course of two decades.

"It goes all the way back to the mid 1980's when John Ashcroft first ran for governor and then when he ran for the United States Senate against Mel Carnahan," says Moore. "Karl was so intimately involved."

Not only did Rove work for Ashcroft in the 80s, but he was one of the main forces behind Ashcroft's controversial appointment to the job he currently holds, attorney general. Rove lobbied intensely for his former employer's nomination after Ashcroft lost his senate seat to a dead man, the late Mel Carnahan.

While Ashcroft was not Bush's first choice for attorney general, Rove reportedly told Bush that spilling some blood over the nomination of the fiercely right-wing Ashcroft was "a no-lose proposition."

Just as George W. Bush profited handsomely from the building of a stadium for his Texas Rangers baseball team, Karl Rove cashed in from the successful campaign in St. Louis to get a stadium built. The governor who signed the legislation?

John Ashcroft.

Now attorney general, Ashcroft is refusing to hand over the reigns of the criminal investigation of his political ally, former employee and longtime advisor, Karl Rove.




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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:01 PM
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11. The media,...
,...is lost. Priorities have become confused. Principles suppressed.

Yes. Those in the media who rejected all the information proving that the propaganda was part of the BIG LIE should be ashamed.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:51 PM
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5. Who do you know that would agree to this?

President George W. Bush has granted himself the power to declare anyone on earth -- including any U.S. citizen -- an "enemy combatant," for any reason he sees fit. He can render them up for torture, he can imprison them for life, he can even have them killed, all without charges, with no burden of proof, no standards of evidence, no legislative oversight, no appeal, no judicial process whatsoever except those that he himself deigns to construct, with whatever limitations he cares to impose. Nor can he ever be prosecuted for any order he issues, however criminal; in the new American system laid out by Bush's legal minions, the Commander is sacrosanct, beyond the reach of any law or constitution.

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:27 PM
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7. Chris Floyd always lays it out so well
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 02:30 PM by hiley
He has become my favorite to read over the last year or so.

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For example, last Friday, a panel of federal judges --
including John Roberts, nominated for the Supreme Court this week -- upheld Bush's claim to dispose of "enemy combatants" any way he pleases,


The Washington Post reports. In a chilling decision, the judges ruled that the Commander's arbitrarily designated
"enemies" are nonpersons:

Neither the Geneva Conventions nor American military and domestic law apply to such garbage. Bush is now free to subject anyone he likes to his self-concocted "military tribunal" system, a brutal sham that retired top U.S. military officials have denounced as a "kangaroo court" that tyrants around the world will cite in order to hide their oppression under U.S. precedent.
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There has been virtually no institutional resistance to this open coup d'etat. It's now clear that the American Establishment -- and a significant portion of the American people -- have given up on the democratic experiment. They no longer wish to govern themselves; they want to be ruled by "strong leaders" who will "do whatever it takes" to protect them from harm and keep them in clover. They have sold their golden birthright of American liberty for a mess of coward's pottage.




http://www.bushwatch.com/floyd.htm
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:42 PM
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8. Yes! Living in a Coup d'etat!
Had some marvelous conversations with many people, only now we're preaching to the choir! Thank you for your wonderful, informative post!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:56 PM
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9. "highly unusual role Cheney played regarding the forged 'intelligence'"
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 03:03 PM by understandinglife
Iraq-Niger: Cheney and the Forgery

by Ray McGovern


July 25, 2005

By now it should be clear that the White House assault on former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife had much less to do with personalities than with the “particular lie” that Wilson exposed. I believe this helps to explain the highly unusual role Vice President Dick Cheney played regarding the forged “intelligence” about Iraq seeking to acquire uranium from Niger—the source of that particular lie. .... It was clear at that time that the first item on the White House list of talking points was: “It wasn’t Dick.”

Plus ça change. Investigative journalist Robert Parry, writing yesterday in consortiumnews.com, has noted that atop the Republican National Committee’s current list of “Joe Wilson’s Top Ten Worst Inaccuracies and Misstatements” sits this priority item: “Wilson insisted that the Vice President’s office sent him to Niger.”

This is a deliberate distortion of what Wilson has said, but if we were to address all such distortions we would be here all day. Besides, the RNC would very much like us to focus on the distortions, and our media have allowed themselves to be led by the nose. So let’s leave this one aside for the moment. What strikes me more and more is the rather transparent two-year-old campaign to dissociate Cheney from L’Affaire Iraq-Niger.

On July 14, 2003, the day of Robert Novak’s opening salvo against the Wilsons, VIPS issued a Memorandum for the President (http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0714-01.htm) with two main sections: “The Forgery Flap,” and “The Vice President’s Role.” In that memo, we also made an important recommendation, which may have seemed a bit extreme at the time. But it was already possible to discern what was going on:

We recommend that you call an abrupt halt to attempts to prove Vice President Cheney “not guilty.” His role has been so transparent that such attempts will only erode further your own credibility. Equally pernicious, from our perspective, is the likelihood that intelligence analysts will conclude that the way to success is to acquiesce in the cooking of their judgments, since those above them will not be held accountable. We strongly recommend that you ask for Cheney’s immediate resignation.


More at the link:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/1026


All we should add now is -- ASK FOR BUSH'S IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION, AS WELL

Another fun stroll down memory lane (since so much history is being repeated these days) appeared at Huffington Post this weekend:

In the long, hot summer of 1974, three prominent Republican members of Congress - including a living right-wing icon - traveled down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House. They were Senator Hugh Scott of Pennsylvania, Congressman John Rhodes of Arizona, and his state's white-haired senior Senator, one Barry Goldwater. The GOP trio was Republican and conservative to the core: Scott served three decades in Congress, Goldwater is one of the patron saints of the conservative movement, and Rhodes was John McCain's political godfather.

The Republican eminences brought a tough message for their Republican president, Richard M. Nixon: it was time to go.

Until that moment, Nixon had clung to the last hopes of his Presidency. With support on the Republican side in congress - even among conservatives, even among hard-core cold warriors and anti-elites - waning, Nixon new the time to abandon hope had come.

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From Barry Goldwater's Long Walk by Tom Watson on July 23, 2005

More at the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/tom-watson/barry-goldwaters-long-wa_4589.html


Mr Watson continues with his speculation as to who the Senators are that should be making the journey to the White House, now. The only problem with Mr Watson's story is the target of the visit - Rove and Libby. Mr Watson should realize that Rove and Libby are chump hoodlums and the dudes who need to resign and then be prosecuted are Bush and Cheney.

Ms Huffington, today, has an amusing assessment of Mr Cheney - "The Magic 8 Ball of American Politics."

It's amazing the extent to which Congress has ceded that responsibility. This negligence of its constitutional duties is what allowed us to get so deeply into the disastrous war in Iraq in the first place.

If we could trust the executive branch, you wouldn't have to read sickening things like this story about the Defense Department defying a federal judge’s order to release secret photos and videos from Abu Ghraib.

The cluelessness of this administration about how to build and nurture a democracy clearly isn't confined to the Middle East.

My suggestion is that after he leaves office, we keep Vice President Cheney around in an advisory capacity, a sort of political Magic 8 Ball. For every issue that comes up, we ask him what he would do. And then we do the opposite.

Link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/arianna-huffington/dick-cheney-the-magic-8-_4665.html


Dear Ms Huffington,

Cool idea! Just as long as the 'magic 8 ball' is confined to a prison cell.

Cheers, UL


http://democrats.senate.gov/leak.html
Senator Reid's leak tracker


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us






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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:06 PM
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12. My sentiments exactly UL!
Just as long as the 'magic 8 ball' is confined to a prison cell.


The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that refuse military
service:

Albert Einstein
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:56 PM
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10. An excellent collection of essays. Taken together, they tell the story
that all too many Americans are hiding from - the terrible truth they deny despite knowing it is now reality.

Recommended. And I'll be back later with a couple more essays to add to the theme.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:09 PM
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13. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:15 PM
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14. Congressman Conyers demands 'No Pardons'

Blogged by JC on 07.25.05 @ 01:19 PM ET

Will the President Pardon Rove?

Today, I wrote to the White House to ask the President to pledge that he will not pardon any Administration official indicted during the course of the Fitzgerald investigation. As some of you may recall, his father, President George H.W. Bush, issued pardons of officials under indictment in the Iran-Contra scandal. Many of my Republican colleagues, and some of my Democratic Colleagues, raise questions about the pardons issued by President Clinton during his last days in office. It would seem to me that an Administration that promised a higher standard of ethics could, at least, make this pledge.

The White House has promised its full cooperation with the investigation, but has thus far fallen woefully short of actually cooperating. <clip>

More at the link:
http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000185.htm


July 25, 2005

The President
The White House

Dear Mr. President:

I write in order to seek your pledge that you will not pardon anyone who has worked or is currently working in your Administration pursuant to Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution in the event that any such individual is either prosecuted for, or convicted of, a crime in connection or relation with the disclosure of Valerie Wilson's identity as a CIA operative or any related matter.

Your handling of the Valerie Wilson matter already appears to be replete with examples of lessening regard for high standards of ethical and legal behavior. First, you refused to respond to a request by myself and 90 Members of Congress that you ask Karl Rove, one of your top advisors, to either disclose his role in the outing of Mrs. Wilson or resign and, indeed, have allowed him to remain on your staff without doing so. Second, on July 18, 2005, you changed the threshold for terminating your staff from leaking the identity of Mrs. Wilson to the necessity for an actual crime to have been committed. On repeated occasions, you have permitted your staff to mislead and/or lie to the American people in connection with this matter without disciplinary consequences. For several years, your press secretary, Scott McClellan, assured the American people that neither Mr. Rove, I. Lewis Libby, nor Elliot Abrams were involved in the leak; just this past month, however, we learned that both Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby were sources for Ms. Plame's identity. Mr. McClellan remains undisciplined for his statements. I am therefore concerned that these low ethical standards foreshadow future actions on your part that will allow individuals responsible for this breach of national security to evade accountability.

As you may recall, many questioned the propriety of your father sealing the case records and pardoning six individuals from his Administration who were implicated by Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh in the Iran-Contra case. When issues of the executive's pardon power involving members of his own Administration were raised during investigations involving the Clinton Administration, the House Judiciary Committee, of which I serve as Ranking Member, held a hearing concerning the constitutional limits of the President with regards to the power of executive clemency. During those hearings, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) presciently stated, "Improperly exercised, the pardon is a travesty of justice - an act borne not of mercy, but of tyranny."

There is little doubt that outing an intelligence operative is one of the most serious offenses under our laws, as it endangers not only the operative, their family, and their employer, but jeopardizes other operatives and intelligence assets, and our nation's security. To do so during a time of war for purposes of a political vendetta makes the offense far worse. That is why when in connection with the drafting of our Constitution, Alexander Hamilton wrote, the "power of pardoning in the President has . . . been only contested in relations to the crime of treason." I hope you agree with Mr. Hamilton that there is no justification for using pardon powers in any way to insulate those who would commit such acts of disloyalty against our nation.

I look forward to your earliest response to this important matter. Please have your office respond to my Judiciary Committee office at 225-6504, 2142 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515.

Sincerely,

/s

John Conyers, Jr.
Ranking Member
House Judiciary Committee

Link:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Conyers_writes_Bush_Promise_you_wont_pardon_those_who_oute_0725.html


Many of us definitely remember Iran-Contra.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:21 PM
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15. Yes, it's a coup d'etat...
One must not stay silent and complacent when a coup d'etat takes place. One must point it out and figure out a way to stop it.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:52 PM
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16. Froomkin finally does it "What did the President Know?"
What Did the President Know?

By Dan Froomkin

July 25, 2005

Now that special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald is said to have expanded his investigation into the leak of a CIA agent's identity to encompass a possible White House cover-up, what the president and the vice president knew would appear to be much more relevant.

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But get ready for more and more talk about the parallels between this story and the Clinton intern scandal -- and of course, Watergate.

We're already hearing some of the prototypical questions being raised. Here's former presidential adviser David Gergen, on ABC's "This Week" yesterday: "What did the president know and when did he know it?"

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More at the link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html


The toothpaste is not going back into the tube, Georgie boy, no matter how hard you and Dickie try ......


Peace.

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