Is everyone here aware of Operation Yellow Elephant?

[Jack from Charlotte]

That's the attempt to get Young Republicans on college campuses' to enlist in the military in support of the invasion they are so fond of. Gives them a chance to REALLY..... support the troops.

Check it out.....

http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/

[Ian David]

1. Probably

Operation Yellow Elephant
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For these right wing media whores selling the war from their comfy chairs
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An advocacy idea to help recruitment.
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[TNOE]

2. I LOVE IT!

Will put on favorites!

[applegrove]

3. They'll just form minutemen groups. They'll say they are fighting

lefties & blue corporations so are needed at home during the war. They'll marry their wives again. They'll wear buttons that say "I am not to be a target - I'm to be the source"

[ClassWarrior]

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[ClassWarrior]

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[ClassWarrior]

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[Theatrical]

7. Why do we care so much?

If everyone between 18 and 42 who supported the war signed up tomorrow, the military would be overwhelmed. The military would have to say "thanks but no thanks" to over 99 percent of them. We don't need everyone to be in the military.

I support the idea of firefighting, but you don't see me going to firefighting school. This argument that everyone who supports a war should be fighting the war just doesn't make any sense.

The stronger argument is that the Iraq war is an expression of racist imperialism. In a sense, we are fueling our SUVs with the blood of Iraqi children.

[SmokingJacket]

9. Because if you put them on the spot, they have to admit that

the war is NOT important enough for them to enlist.

I think it's disgusting that they support OTHER people "dying for freedom," but not themselves. Frigging hypocrites.

[Theatrical]

14. Ever care to test that theory?

They'll just say "others can do the job better than I, and I'm sure grateful for their service." And most people will accept that. You're just not going to convince many people that a war is a bad idea by pointing out that only a small percentage of the population is fighting in the war.

This is the big problem with us liberals: we try to make everything about personality. If we actually stuck to the issues, we might start to win elections again.

I mean, look at what we do to President Bush. We could calmly explain why he's wrong on the issues. We have the facts to back ups up. But instead, we spend 90 percent of our rhetoric saying that he's another Hitler.

The average American hears that and what will they get out of it? "I don't know about the issues, but this president is a bad, bad, man." Then all the president has to do is talk about his dog on a pet show or talk about his love of Christ in church and millions of Americans will think "Aw, he's not such a bad guy." Suddenly, our whole argument is destroyed. It may not be fair, but it's reality.

Now, if we actually engaged on facts, we would have a chance. If you tell people "Bush might or might not be a perfectly decent guy, but his foreign and economic policy is very foolish. A better approach would be___" Then you explain it clear and simple terms. That way, he couldn't just turn on the charm and blow the Hitler business out of the water in most people's minds.

Attack me if you like, but after losing the last two elections, maybe we need to start trying some different.

[SmokingJacket]

15. Actually the fact that repubs aren't enlisting in droves gets right

to the crux of what is wrong with this war. We are NOT fighting for our freedom, we are NOT engaged in some glorious, honorable endeavor. In fact, enlistment is becoming a major problem. What we have is a house on fire, a fire engine parked in the driveway, no firefighters around -- and no one willing to pick up the damn hose, to use your metaphor. And their excuse is, "Well, certainly someone more qualified to pick up the hose will be by any minute!" Yeah. Right.

And you obviously haven't been listening/reading much if you think that 90% of our rhetoric compares B to Hitler -- not in real life, and not even on DU, a veritable hotbed of imapssioned rhetoric.

I'm actually very much in favor of reasonable, truthful discussion of these issues. And in fact, the Democrats -- specifically, John Kerry -- did nothing but "engage on facts" during the last election. He was almost as good a candidate as we could have. Did you listen to the debates? Dear God: there was Bush saying NOTHING, and Kerry, very calmly with facts at hand, basically tearing the place up. But who won the election?

Your "we gotta play nice or we'll turn off all the Bush-lovers" stuff has proven no more effective than anything else -- and frankly, is getting a little old. Republicans -- the "winners" -- have never ever even once played nice. This "Operation Yellow Elephant" stuff is mild indeed compared with what college Republicans do on campuses.

My solution? Well, if I had one I wouldn't be futzing around on DU -- I'd be out managing someone's campaign. We're all struggling here, trying to figure out what we can do to help turn our country around. Being total screaming assholes won't work, and neither will becoming fawning sycophants.

(My personal, pessimistic vision is that we democrats are screwed for the time being, and that the best we can do is sit back and watch the republicans self-destruct -- which is happening as we speak. However, I admire the energy and chutzpah of those willing to go and get in the face of the people hell-bent on perpetuating this evil, stupid, unjust war.)

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Because they are cowards to the core

and when publically humiliated they start backing away from the issue

by the way firefighting school is lots of fun... and by the way, some of these guys would never do any public service... and the military now knows this... you have no idea how these chicken hawks turn our stomachs....

by the way welcome to DU and be prepared to some snarky responses

[Al-CIAda]

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[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Yep I have given some of them the actual DoD form, with

recruiter info... which promptly ends in the trash... but the public humiliation is worth it.. let them try... my truck and car have DoD stickers

;-)

Heck I did that to an old freeper, of course forms for his kids... he went absolutely ballistic.

[SidDithers]

12. I think it's brilliant...nt

Sid

[Al-CIAda]

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