Looks like Ms Miller is being set up to take the fall......

[Roy]

On Fox just now this mornings Fox and Friends bimbo asked if it will be learned who the reporter that leaked to KKKarl was. The repub shill said that the original leaker may already be in jail, referring to J. Miller.

Another trial balloon???

Wonder if Ms. Miller knows she is being hung out to dry?

[rodeodance]

1. that 'bimbo' Fox and Friends is an embarressment to all women!!

....On Fox just now this mornings Fox and Friends bimbo ......

[bluestateguy]

3. Do you mean E.D. Hill?

She strikes me as just another dumb blonde sorority girl type.

[Roy]

4. No not E. D. Hill

She is one wierd looking bimbo though.

[maxrandb]

15. More Faux Affirmative Action for Blondes in Short Skirts n/t

[ET Awful]

2. She isn't the original source though, she can't be the "original leaker"

because she dies not have access to classified information. The repub shill can say whatever he likes, but unless he's insinuating that she had a top secret security clearance, his insinuations are nothing but a lot of hot air.

[Roy]

6. No, your right she can't be.....

But these guys just look for a gain for the moment. they are probably hoping at least to take the heat off Rove. They have invested a lot of "absolute" spin statements attempting to protect him.

And they know without Rove the Government may just have to shut down.

[Son of California]

5. Miller had to get that info from somewhere

there is still a leaker hiding in there.

[punpirate]

7. I think you'll find, as we all will...

... that Miller was a confirmatory source for the information, and was in on the exposure of Plame. She will likely be named as part of a conspiracy to expose Plame for the purposes of discrediting Wilson. Why? Because Judith Miller was the most prominent member of the press promoting the administration's lies regarding Iraqi WMDs. Wilson's remarks not only injured the administration's credibility, they also called most of Miller's pre-war reporting into question. Her reputation was at stake, as well.

She had motives parallel to those of the administration.

She's not being hung out to dry. She's doing her best to protect her own interests--no different than the administration is doing now.

Cheers.

[Roy]

9. Actually I agree...

I'm hoping for potential jail time to cause a food fight in which we learn that the two top guys are the ones who gave this name to little Ms. Loyal.


DAMN, it hurt me to see Tiki Barber sitting there. This is why I caught this. While flipping channels and seeing him, I had to wait to find out which twin this was. I hope both are not lost.

[leveymg]

11. I'd take this a step further and suggest that Ms. Miller may actually

be an agent of influence for a foreign power. We know that Judy had sources and ties to a Middle East gov't its and intelligence agencies.

We also know that that the indictment against Larry Franklin, the OSP Iran analyst who swapped classified materials with the Israelis, contains the allegation that he salted DoD files with information about the Iran WMD progam provided by Mossad. Franklin was also an agent of influence, of a sort. See,http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/06-18-05/discussion.cgi.76.html

The origins of the forged Niger yellowcake documents are disputed. We know that someone went to a lot of trouble to get them into the hands of the White House. Miller was working her tail off to keep them active.

[punpirate]

12. I won't go that far without more indisputable evidence...

... as it is, there's no demonstrated connection between Franklin's activities and Miller's purported role in this.

But, as I've said elsewhere, Sibel Edmond's assertions about documents she'd translated might figure into this in ways no one expects.

Cheers.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Our First Winner Of The Day...

The key here is motive and opportunity. You named two.

Thank-you!!

I've said all along, if Rove, and now Libby, were Miller's source she'd be sitting at home eating bon bons right now.

Unlike a Deep Throat whose confidential was crucial to exposing crimes and moving an investigation forward. Miller's withholding critical information that could solve this case and is impeding the investigation. She deserves to rot and being included in on the conspiracy charge would sweeten things as well.

Hey Judy, get used to your cell. You may be there a lot longer than you think.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[tsuki]

8. What does Rupert Murdock think he is doing? He needs to learn

something about American Government. I don't know how they run government in Australia, but in the US, reporters do not have access to "double, super secret" documents of the CIA.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Not unless

they are actually CIA or OSP agents pretending to be journalists?

[JohnyCanuck]

16. That's not always the case.

Looks like under the CIA's Operation Mockingbird (found by the Senate's Church committee to have used US and foreign journalists and media figures as stooges and agents) journalists did have access at times to classified info.

One of the most important journalists under the control of Operation Mockingbird was Joseph Alsop, whose articles appeared in over 300 different newspapers. Other journalists willing to promote the views of the CIA included Stewart Alsop (New York Herald Tribune), Ben Bradlee (Newsweek), James Reston (New York Times), Charles Douglas Jackson (Time Magazine), Walter Pincus (Washington Post), William C. Baggs (Miami News), Herb Gold (Miami News) and Charles Bartlett (Chattanooga Times). ⁽⁷⁾ According to Nina Burleigh (A Very Private Woman) these journalists sometimes wrote articles that were commissioned by Frank Wisner. The CIA also provided them with classified information to help them with their work.⁽⁸⁾ (emphasis added)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOCKINGBIRD

[tsuki]

19. They would be operatives and have signed non diclosures on all

"double, supersecret," other than what they would have been told to say. I had to sign a non-disclosure when I worked for DoD. Tenet never gave Novak the Plame network. And now, I wonder, if it is true that Rove was not a part of admin at that time, who gave him the info.

[JohnyCanuck]

14. Justin Raimondo's (antiwar.com) column today on Miller:

Judith Miller: Hearsted on
Her Own Petard

General Judy's in the brig –
and justice is served
by Justin Raimondo



If any one source of government-generated disinformation could be pointed to as vitally important in the campaign to lie us into war with Iraq, then surely Miller – the New York Times reporter whose articles did so much to inflate the claims of Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction" – deserves some sort of award. Thanks to her tireless efforts, there was hardly a tall tale told by Ahmed "Hero in Error" Chalabi's U.S.-government-funded "intelligence-gathering" operation that did not make it into the New York Times, often on the front page. From the aluminum tubes that had nothing to do with nukes or other "weapons of mass destruction," to the secret biolabs in the basements of Saddam's palaces, to the string of nuke factories allegedly working overtime from one end of Iraq to the other, it all turned out to be a tissue of lies.

When the U.S. finally went into Iraq, and the search for those mythical WMD began, General Judy was in the forefront of the posse, personally accompanying the military team sent to conduct search operations – virtually "hijacking" the mission, according to one officer on the scene – and even wearing a military uniform. Her imperious manner while in Iraq with META (the Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha) aroused considerable resentment, particularly on account of her brazen attempts to intimidate military personnel by threatening to go to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld or his deputy Douglas Feith if things did not go her way. And there is evidence that her relationship with the Pentagon was not all bluff and bluster......

<snip>

Some of the ditzier liberals have been quite upset at this turn of events. Poor Judy is having to sleep on a mattress, they wail, under the same roof as a bunch of felons, murderers, drug-dealers, and whores! Oh, boo hoo hoo! They need to get over it. As the witty proprietor of the Norwegianity blog quipped: she's been "Hearsted on her own petard." And that's a Good Thing.

For once, the neocons are on the defensive, facing far greater firepower than they've ever encountered. In Plame-gate, the War Party is facing its Waterloo. Let no one – not weepy liberals, bamboozled into believing that "reporter" Miller is a martyr to the First Amendment, or party-lining neocons, who whine that "policy differences" are being "criminalized" – deprive us of victory or any of its pleasures. These people belong in jail, and for far longer than any are likely to be sentenced. The sheer beauty of their impending trial – as a lesson in how the War Party works, how it lied and smeared and seized power in a ruthless bid to impose its agenda – makes up for any deficiency of justice in sentencing guidelines that privilege white-collar gangs over the ordinary non-ideological variety. This investigation means there is some justice in this world, if not in the next, and that is more than good enough for me.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6693

[Peace Patriot]

17. Hear! Hear! Kudos to Justin Raimondo!

Judith Miller is not a journalist. She's a Pentagon shill. She is not protecting a whistleblower. She's protecting Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby and/or Karl Rove--and a criminal enterprise the likes of which we have never seen in the U.S. government.

Some people call Iraq "Judith Miller's war," and that is not far from the truth. No one is more responsible for pushing Bush Cartel lies about Iraq WMDs than she and the editors who published her on the front pages of the rag she writes for. They legitimized those lies for all other news organizations, and destroyed the NYT's reputation forever. Over 100,000 innocent people died as a result. The magnitude of this journalistic crime is staggering.

There have been other journalistic crimes in support of this fascist regime. One of the worst was committed by the TV networks who, acting in concert, ALTERED the exit poll data on everybody's TV screens late on election day, Nov. 2, 2004, "adjusting" the exit poll data (Kerry won) to fit the official result (Bush won), thus depriving the American people of major evidence of election fraud, and dampening protest and demands for investigation.

Just went and changed it. CHANGED the exit polls. PUT FALSE NUMBERS ON EVERYBODY'S TV SCREENS!

The combined impact of these two journalistic crimes--the NYT's lies about Iraq WMDs, and the TV networks' falsification of the exit poll data--was to install an illegitimate government to conduct a heinous and completely unjustified war in clear defiance of the will of the American people, nearly 60% of whom have opposed this war since BEFORE the invasion of Iraq. (I will never forget that stat! February 2003, in all polls: 58% opposed the war, with about half opposing it outright, and the other half opposing anything but a U.N. peacekeeping action--no unilateral US war.)

The U.S. news monopolies, with Judith Miller and the NYT leading the pack, have destroyed our democracy just as surely as the Bush Cartel and their brethren at Diebold and ES&S have done. They have acted as the cheerleaders and propagandists for this fascist coup. They have no credibility left. None.

So it is VERY, VERY DIFFICULT to know what is really going on right now. We can presume, because the news monopolies have framed the Judith Miller jailing as a government assault on the "free press" that the opposite is true. Nothing could be better for freedom of the press than the jailing of Judith Miller.

That's what we have to do now: We have to presume that, whatever the news monopolies are telling us, the opposite is probably true--or, at the least, is a highly twisted version of reality, if not a delusion.

We have to question EVERY WORD they say. Is Bush the "president"? No. He and his Cartel have no legitimacy. Their "election" was completely non-transparent and unverifiable, and the inferential evidence strongly points to a big Bush loss. Is the U.S. at war in Iraq? No! The Bush Cartel--usurpers of U.S. authority--is USING the U.S. military for its own ends, and is massively looting both countries. Is Judith Miller a journalistic martyr, suffering for the sins of her government? No. Judith Miller is an agent of the Bush Cartel--if not of a foreign country (Israel)--and has used her position as a journalist to START A WAR, and is now using her privileges as a journalist to protect mass murderers.

Question every word. Assume the opposite. And you will be close to the truth.

Is Bush fighting terrorism? No. Bush is PROMOTING terrorism, and CREATING terrorism, and INFLICTING terrorism--to the enormous profit of his arms dealing vice president, and the Saudi oil princes who have been funding Bush from the beginning.

Is Bush patriotic? No. Bush is a basket case, and a nut, and a puppet, whose programmed lines and managed appearances are a farce. There is no there there. He doesn't have enough substance to be patriotic, or loyal to anything but his own meal ticket, and literally cannot hold a thought in his head more complicated than two or three-word sentences ("Bring 'em on!" "Mission accomplished."). The promotion, creation and infliction of terrorism is the work of OTHERS who keep him away from the details, shield him with deniability, and use him as the front man.

So, when the news monopolies refer to this empty suit, this soulless little punk, as "the President," they are lying, and they know it.

Like that. Question every word.

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The answer to the stink in Washington DC is restoring our right to vote, by throwing Bushite electronic voting machine companies--Diebold, ES&S and brethren--out of the election business NOW--or, at the least, achieving some measure of election transparency with paper ballot backups, strict auditing, and no secret, proprietary programming code owned and controlled by major Bush donors and campaign chairs! The only place where we can get this done is in state/local jurisdictions, where the authority over election systems still resides, and where ordinary people still have some say. The bipartisan corruption in the electronic voting business at the state/local level is daunting, but it is nothing compared to the bipartisan corruption in Washington DC on this and all major issues, and it is fixable and local. See the DU Forum "2004 Election Results and Discussion" for information and action ideas:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

[annabanana]

18. it's like a damn dandelion

you have to get every last shoot of it's agressive root..