Rove is in over his head

[tk2kewl]

I'm sure this has been postulated here, but I have yet to see it:

Rove's comments a couple of weeks ago about liberals being soft on terror were made intentionally to get Democrats to go after him.

He was trying to set the groundwork for claiming that there was a partisan attack against him personally, because he knew that the Plame thing was about to blow up in his face.

This is also why among the repuke talking points is that "Democrats are just angry."

Rove is clearly over his head because these are incredibly lame political tactics that show none of the cleverness he has shown in the past. He doesn't know how to get out of this one folks.

[Richard Steele]

1. I never thought he was all that clever; just willing to be SLIMIER...

...than the next guy.

I think his "brilliance" was always a self-promoted MYTH.
Maybe I'm wrong; can anyone provide any examples of this "cleverness"
I keep hearing about?

Willingness to break laws and a total absense of ethics is NOT the same as "cleverness".

[tk2kewl]

2. the ability to get away with breaking the law involves some cleverness

like planting a listening device in his own office while in Texas and claiming he was being bugged which triggered an investigation

[ewagner]

3. You're right and wrong

Yes, I now am convinced that Rove's attack on the Democrats a couple of weeks ago was because he knew the Leak/scandal was going to blow up soon. And it most certainly set the stage for the Democrats are just angry! theme.

What I take issue with is that these are "..incredibly lame political tactics..." There very good tactics actually and I don't believe Rove is in over his head.

This guy is skilled in manipulating the media and what parts of the media he couldn't manipulate before Dubya became president, he now controls in spades. Look at what went down just this morning. The Repub talking points got out UNCHALLENGED on just about every major Network and Cable talk show. Look at that crappy editorial in The Wall Street Journal . The fax machines from Rove's offices have been working overtime. This is a coordinated media assault.

We only have one hope: The Special Prosecutor.

We can only hope that the wheels of justice will turn independently of the media blitz. I hope the Citizens sitting on the Grand Jury aren't watching TV.

[Walt Starr]

4. He has no clue whatsoever how a Chicago investigation works

Fitzgerald will be doing to him what was done in the licenses for bribes scandal here.

[whatever4]

5. He hates public attention too

From what I understand about Rove, he's someone I would have liked, as a youngster. He was the alienated geek, ugly, clumsy, the one that no one liked. He managed to get good at manipulation. That is my understanding of him. He used his geeky powers for evil, allied himself with the powerful, made himself useful.

In person, he HATES the public spotlight. He loathes it. All this attention to him is the BEST weapon against him. I think, if it happens long enough, he will implode. He is not psychologically able to withstand this pressure. The criticisms of his appearance eat away at him. It's all good.

Keep talking about him. He'll hardly be able to keep up. One can only speed read so much, and at his age, his eyes certainly must be going.

As a kid, I'd have probably liked him. Maybe I'd have turned his evil intentions to good, being a kind female type to such geeks, preferring them over all other male types. But, in all likelihood, part of his mental imbalance is that he doesn't like gals, just like Rush. They cannot see being gay, and so pervert their entire lives in denying it. Many, in fact most, aspects of sex are seen as perversions to these types; something to "get away with", dirty little secrets. Anything that feels good is bad. It really messes them up. He might like women. I don't imagine very many like him. I imagine he pays for whatever he gets. Ha.

This one is king geek. He REALLY hates public attention.

[tk2kewl]

6. I don't think I would've liked him as a kid...

[whatever4]

7. Yeah, he was probably a mean, selfish cuss

I get your point. I think I would have felt sorry for him. Then I would have run off with that funny D&D guy with the crazy glasses and messy hair ;)

[LondonReign2]

8. No, he isn't as clever by half

Rove is no supra-genius, just willing to be a more ruthless fucking dirty trickster than anybody else, by far. He will do ANYTHING for power, and in this case his vengence has tripped him up.

As good as Fitzgerald proved himself to be in Illinois, I doubt he can actually indict Rove. Nonetheless, all the attention will not be good for Chimpy, who is being seen as clinging to a treasonous advisor willing to compromise natioanl security for partisan power. Hopefully this hamstrings Chimpy's ability to jam through more of his disasterous policies.