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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:07 PM
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What should I tell my friend, re: Bev Harris/BBV?
I have a good friend in the Boston area, a committed liberal who works HARD and puts his money where his mouth is, and is pretty much on the same page as me about most everything.

He is very active in Brookline PeaceWorks and a voting accountability group there.

He recently went to a speech given by Bev Harris in the area on BBV issues in the Boston area.

I tried to explain to him about the controversy with her and her history here, but I didn't really have links or ammunition to supply him with. As far as he's concerned, she's on the up and up.

Is there any link I can refer him to that summarizes the story and provides links to information so he can see the true situation for himself?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:08 PM
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1. here >
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:11 PM
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3. Thank you, I will read and send along.
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NC Beach Girl Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:09 PM
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2. The Bev Harris Story
for newbies and those who have forgotten

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x340188

Don't forget to mention to your friend that she loves to post at Free Republic and attack Democrats there including: Andy Stephenson, John Conyers, and John Kerry.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:43 PM
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13. She has also attacked
Mike Malloy
Randi Rhodes
Doug Jones
Avi Ruben
The Democratic Party
and about a dozen activists here at DU.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:13 PM
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4. Tell him about her selling "Clinton Cigars" during the impeachment....
and Lewinski scandal. She's an opportunist and a wretched human. And "human" is even debatable.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:41 PM
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12. There are things crawling in maggot feces
more human than her and her ilk.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:17 PM
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5. Speaking of Bev, is her Volusia county film real evidence?
If so, why is she sitting on it?

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/2197/6737.html

Also a terse acknowledgement that Andy at one time had something to do with her organization.

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/6832.html?1120829600
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:20 PM
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7. There is no evidence
she lied and lied and lied. She was addicted to fame and money and would say anything to score her next fix of same.

From now on we need to dog this woman ay any appearance and ask her why she smeared Andy and helped right-wing psychos hound him into his grave.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:39 PM
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11. What about that tape?
I can't do video, so could someone look at that tape and see if any use could or should be made of it? What's on it?
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:17 PM
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6. Here are Bev's OWN words about Andy
That she posted to Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1402493/posts?q=1&&page=1101#1147

Now as for Andy: All of us at Black Box Voting wish him a speedy recovery. Medical treatment is never any fun. I do find the statements that he is "short" $4,800 rather curious, since we have his signature on the certified receipt for a $4,000 check from Black Box Voting that he has yet to cash. His spouse, Ted, also has about $100,000 equity in their house. Ted is an able-bodied and very intelligent man who chooses not to be employed.

We wish Andy a recovery free of complications, and I do believe that he is indeed going in for treatment at Johns Hopkins, and that he does have significant health problems. I do not think I've seen him, personally, say that he has pancreatic cancer. That is a diagnosis put forward on his behalf by others, if I'm not mistaken. I doubt very much that he is dying, but that does not mean that he is not at risk.

I will say this: Someone in my immediate family, whom I adored, died of pancreatic cancer. We lost him in six months, he was in considerable pain, and he certainly would have been unable to travel around the country, looking plump, cherubic and rosy-cheeked, giving speeches.


Andy was diagnosed back at the beginning of the year and died yesterday. Was that fast enough for you Bev?

Maybe it is cancer, or perhaps a benign tumor or a precursor tumor, or pancreatitis (which is no joke either). Whatever it is, I am sure he is truly sick, and I hope he gets better quickly and as painlessly as possible. At the same time, I believe he should properly disclose the actual diagnosis. He often complained that he and his partner couldn't take a tax deduction on their house because he was the only one working and the house was in his spouse's name, and our state does not recognize gay marriage. It is possible that the two of them cannot obtain a loan on the equity on their house, because neither is employed.

Well, Andy HAD a job until you fired him and publicly SMEARED him. Then he couldn't get a job.

While working for Black Box Voting, Andy was paid a salary of $48,000 per year. Because paychecks continue for a short time after termination, pretty much like any company where you get paid AFTER you work, not before, Andy was continuing to receive his regular paycheck in December while he was posting things like "I'm down to $1.21" at DU. He also received substantial payments from a donor named Laurie Grace during this time period. He was paid about $4000 from Black Box Voting in Feb., but though he signed for it, has not cashed the check.

Whatever his financial situation, we are glad that he is receiving top-of-the line medical treatment and wish him a speedy recovery. Sometimes the things he says are very annoying, but we all eventually meet our maker, don't we?


Yes, we do. Some too soon, some not soon enough.

I'm content to let a higher power deal out the justice here. All I know is that I've been given a project to do, and along with other excellent people, most of whom I've been working with for several years, we are moving the ball forward each week.

I invite folks to drop Bev a line and ask if she believs he is dying now. Ask her if she wishes a higher power to judge her now.

The vile hypocrite has this posted on her site:

According to a post on Democratic Underground, Andy Stephenson died on Thursday, July 7.

Stephenson was Associate Director of Black Box Voting from June 27 to Dec. 14, 2004. According to the Seattle Weekly, Stephenson was suffering from pancreatic cancer.

Each of us at Black Box Voting is profoundly saddened by this turn of events. We offer our condolences to his family and friends.

Andy Stephenson had an irrepressible sense of humor, was fun to be around, and he was a passionate spokesman for this issue. He will be missed.

Bev Harris
Kathleen Wynne
and the Black Box Voting board of directors
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:27 PM
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8. What a nice faked sentiment.
When I called her, she was shrieking at me over the phone that she wanted Andy to live so she could prosecute him. For what, if not for finally realizing what she was, I don't know.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:36 PM
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9. Holy shit. You didn't need that, did you?
BBV was the site that led me to DU in the first place. What a letdown to find out that BH is actually a raving lunatic.

I know you were close to Andy, and this must be a tough night for you. I hope you can let all go for a while, relax, and get some rest.

Redstone
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:04 AM
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16. I'm grateful to you for your support, Redstone. n/t
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:39 PM
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10. When did you talk to her?
Prosecute him for what, telling the truth about her and her little scam?

Projection again.

Bev, you better hope the atheists are right, because if they are wrong your ass is in for it. Personally, I would agree to eternal damnation as long as I could watch Bev and her Freeper minions turning on a spit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:03 AM
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15. I talked to her a day or so after Andy's surgery.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 12:04 AM by sfexpat2000
And of oourse, it was projection.

She hated Andy because she lost his trust.

And you have to work really hard to do that.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:00 AM
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14. That's the sickest rantings from a "human" I think I've ever read
Seems like she lacks the empathy gene --

Plus the fact that she seems to be a member of a fringe Christian group -- Zion something or the other. I really hate it that when I see "Christian" anymore -- I have to talk a closer look at the person.

Some people are "Christ-like" -- and rarely if ever mention that they are a "Christian".

Other people -- manage to tell you in every other sentence that they are a Christian -- the same sort that Christ would drive out of the temple if he were alive and on earth today.

For me that is quite an image -- the only time in the Bible that I can remember that Christ was anything by a non-violent person -- was when he drove the money changers OUT of the temple. Boy would I love to turn that Christ loose on Ms. Harris.

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:14 AM
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17. The simplest, most appropriate curse I can place on anyone is:
May you be judged as you have judged others. May your God be the God you have wished upon your enemies.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:17 AM
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18. Locking
Asked and answered.

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