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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:06 PM
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If any dems vote in support of the $87 billion Iraq request...
...will you feel any different about them. Will it be like just giving Bush a pass for making such a mess? Or will it be doing something actually beneficial for the Iraqi people - even though Bush caused the problem?
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alonso_quijano Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:12 PM
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1. We broke it, we bought it...
So I wouldn't be too upset at any Dem who voted for the money.

However, I would be mighty cheesed at anyone who voted for the money and didn't demand big, public hearings on exactly what was being done with it, how much is going into Halliburton's pocket, etc.

We've got a big tab to pick up over there, I believe, but I hope for the Dems holding out a threat of NO just in order to get some public attention on the robber baron practices of this administration.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:14 PM
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3. I agree...
...the Dems should not let this pass without an accounting of EXACTLY where it will go on the front end, and where it went on the back end...

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:18 PM
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5. I'm with the two of you...
Full accounting should be in order.
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Bertrand Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:22 PM
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9. I absolutly agree
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:12 PM
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2. I am willing to bet that
most if not all , vote in favor. What choice do they have? The US made this mess and it's up to the US to clean it up and that will cost a lot of money. If they voted in favor of the war resolution and against this, it makes them hypocrites. As much as I would like them to, it's unrealistic to think that the US can just pick up and leave before the country is stabilized.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:17 PM
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4. Won't blame them for voting for it
HOWEVER, they better damned sure extract a pound of flesh before they do it!!!!!!
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:18 PM
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6. If they insist that Bush's tax cuts be cancelled to pay for it
I won't have a problem at all.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:20 PM
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8. That's exactly what needs to happen
But it won't, spineless Dems will vote for it and his tax cuts will stay where they are.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:19 PM
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7. I don't know
whether or not it would be could for the Iraqi people. But as a general principle, I think people who claim to think logically, as most of us on this board do, should avoid ad hominem arguments. Just because * supports something doesn't automatically make it wrong. What are the facts??
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 02:27 PM
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10. Let them pay for reconstruction!
I think there is a growing desire to pass the military 60 odd billion portion of the bill (political suicide to vote against that), but not the 20 odd billion portion for reconstruction.

The Iraqi's can pay for that with loans against their oil.

Everytime the Democrats raise that possibility the Adminstration says Iraq already has $200 billion in debt and we shouldn't saddle the new government with $20 billion more. They think we're retarted!

Sen. Byrd made some wonderful points yesterday about the American people never giving a mandate to rebuild Iraq. The people were told we were going there because of WMD (and 9/11), not building roads and schools. There was simply NO plan for reconstruction, so there was nothing to give a mandate to. Stevens silenced him, however.

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