ROVE SUPPORTS DEAN, DO YOU?

[RageAgainstTheirMachine]

SNIP

"Rove exhorted the marchers and the parade audience: 'Come on, everybody! Go, Howard Dean!'"

SNIP

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10541-2003Jul4.html


It's clear that Rove believes he and Bush will cream Dean. This is another reason to support a ticket strong on natinal security that features either Kerry, Clark or both.

[deutsey]

1. Yes, I support Dean

but I'll vote for whomever the Democrats nominate, not whomever Rove determines.

[Walt Starr]

2. It's basic cointelpro techniques

Dean TERRIFIES Rove. HE wants Democrats to belive that he wants to take on Dean, thus nullifying his candidacy.

He wants Kerry, Edwards, or ESPECIALLY Lieberman. Gephardt would do, too.

Anybody who voted for the war automatically nullifies the fact theat there are so many troops dying daily in Quaghdad, Iraqnam.

[newsguyatl]

3. where have you been??

we've been over this already... several times... this is a scheme by rove... he DOES fear dean... don't be so gullible!

[ibegurpard]

4. You actually fell for that?

I don't think Rove is quite the mastermind everyone here seems to think he is but I CERTAINLY give him credit for enough intelligence not to BROADCAST the candidate the he would most like to run against.

[VaLabor]

5. don't fall for it

Why would Rove advertise who he thinks would be easiest for Bush to defeat? And then promote that person on precisely those grounds?

Rove knows full well that Dems are looking for the best candidate to beat Bush. Rove sends out these talking points to the media. Dem voters hear them. They start to think, hey, I'd better vote Lieberman, instead of Dean.

The truth is, Rove is scared to hell and back of the Dean phenomenon. He'd want nothing more than to kill it before Dean gets the nomination.

[roughsatori]

6. You have taken Rove's bait

the more scared they become of Dean--the more you will hear the Repuke Pundits on the tube declaiming "We hope Dean wins the primary." An old trick--but obviously still effective.

[markus]

7. Bring it on

So, if Karl Rove wants to make a campaign in the middle of a war and a faltering economy about gay rights, all I can say is, "bring it on."

[LiberalLibra]

8. I'm sort of leaning to Dean but I'd be very happy with a Kerry/Clark....

.....ticket too. In fact Kerry/Clark might be able to take on Bush on his beloved "natinal security" better than Dean could. I think the graphic to the left of my post says it all for me.

[dajabr]

9. "It's clear that Rove believes he and Bush will cream Dean"

And guess who fell for it?! Hey Rage, I also hear the DLC has a bridge to sell... You in the market? How about a slightly used Lieberman?

Reminder: Taking whatever Rove does/says at face value is a mistake.

[LuminousX]

10. Dean is an Unknown Variable

so they are trying to dismiss it. Remember, the GOP so far has been horrible at math and calculating things. They want a Democratic agenda like they were able to run against in 2002. We can either give it to them or take the party back.

Never let your opposition pick his opponent or the place of battle.

[Dr Fate]

11. Rove is trying to divide ALL Democrats, not just Dean supporters

Read his brilliant/evil statement more closely- it's designed to cast doubt amongst Dean supporters, while it makes "anti-Dean" people shout "SEE-I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

It's unfortunate when we fall for Rove's tactics- they are quite transparent if you just scratch the surface...

In the end- Rove knows that his goal is to DIVIDE AND CONQUER- Dean just happens to be the "apparent" target- the real target is ALL of us.

And for the record, I support Kerry and will gladly support Dean if nominated.

[ibegurpard]

13. Yes

Regardless of who you are supporting, it seems to me that this would be a pretty pathetically obvious ploy.

[sangh0]

17. Obviously

it's not obvious enough for some.

[NNN0LHI]

12. I bet Rove believes in Santa Claus too. Does that make it true? n/t

[MercutioATC]

14. So now we're letting Rove pick our nominee?

Puhleeese...

Why does anything Rove says make any difference?

[Jack The Tab]

15. Ha ha - had to laugh at the thread title...

so ridiculous.

Yeah, me and Rove are on the same track by supporting Dean.

[LuminousX]

16. The GOP have wet themselves

when Dean pulled in all that money, average $100 per donation, which means there are a hell of a lot of people out there willing and ready to support him. They don't know how to counter that so they are doing everything to see Dean is done in by the Democrats.

[Dr Fate]

23. This makes sense- divide & conquer- oldest trick in the book...

...let's not fall for it folks!!!

[Ripley]

18. You may try to ruin my birthday...

But you can't!!!

Sometimes you gotta wonder why those "studying the enemy" sound just like them.

This is my first post in the new and improved DU....weird, but I LIKE IT!

Thanks DU!

[Dhalgren]

19. It was when Rove started his "pro dean" smirking,

that I realized that the DLC was an organ of the Rove machine. They are in such lock-step with each other. And then for Lieberman to come out and say that he wanted Dean to be the "liberal" candidate and he (Lieberman) would be the "moderate" candidate and would make short work of Dean. I don't know, but Lieberman seems auefully close to being a Rove mouth-puppet. If he isn't he sure is working Rove's way.

[retread]

20. Who cares what that slime ball says?

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[Q]

21. What the hell does 'strong on national security' mean?

- This implies that the Bushies are 'strong' on national security and we need to be just like them. Need I remind you that they had advance warning of 9-11 and did nothing about it?

- It's a myth that the Neocons are stronger on national security. It's a myth THEY perpetuated.

- Dems don't need to become warmongers or build more nuclear bombs to 'appear' stronger. Instead...they should debunk the GOP myths and expose the truth about the way the Bushies ACTUALLY performed before, during and after 9-11.

[West Coast Democrat]

22. I've Already Seen Dean Stickers & Signs All Over

Of course Rove is pretending he's not scared, and he may assume that Dean is the frontrunner.

[mdmc]

24. I support Dean

But if Rove wants to drop him a $2000.00 check, I'm cool with that. Until he does, he is not supporting Dean.

[Orangepeel]

25. Are you in the market for a bridge?

I've got a nice one in Brooklyn I can let you have cheap!

Rove saying he supports a candidate doesn't mean anything. It could be true. It could be "reverse psychology." It could be "reverse-reverse psychology."

Instead of trying to figure out what Rove thinks we think he should think, why don't we just let Democratic primary voters choose the candidate we think is best?

[Classical_Liberal]

26. It's just reverse psychology. Agreeing with Bush isn't strong

. It's weak, because it will spread our forces too thin if we follow the pnac.

[wryter2000]

27. Failed governor

Didn't Bush I refer to Clinton as a "failed governor of a small state" or something like that? This sounds the same to me.

In fact, it sounds rather like whistling past a graveyard.

Of course, I'd support Kerry or the other people you mentioned if they got the nomination.

[Sava]

28. perhaps reverse psychology??

Karl Rove is a canniving little sh1t. If he's "supporting" Dean and confident Bushy will win, perhaps he really believes Dean can win.

[RainDog]

29. you hurt your candidate when you post something like this

..with me, and who knows, maybe with other people.

just in case you want to know.

if you don't, that would make me tend to dislike your candidate.

and this whole dirty tricks piece was done to death two days ago with multiple threads.

find something good to say about your candidate, and don't trash the other ones, or try to smear them via innuendo...

that's so Rove.

[Khephra]

30. What utterly insipid logic

Kerry's staff thinks they can beat Dean. Lieberman's staff thinks they can beat Dean. Are all these people linked because of a common thought or are any of them right?

I'll be sure to check what the other side wants before I make up my own mind the next time.

That type of thinking is exactly why the Left is lacking in fight.

[trof]

31. Double reverse psychology.

Tricky, ain't it?

[Stoic]

32. AHAHAHAHAHA! Yes, I take may marching orders from Karl Rove.

You should, too.