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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:02 PM
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Sen. Kennedy on the Admin's Use of Intelligence on Iraq WMD
I was wondering what exactly Ted had to say ...

"It's bad enough that such a glaring blunder became part of the President's case for war. It's far worse if the case for war was made by deliberate deception. It's more important than ever that Congress conduct a real investigation into the use of intelligence sources as a justification for war. The American people deserve to know whether the President is making war and peace decisions based on reliable information. We cannot risk American lives because of shoddy intelligence or outright lies."

http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/statements/03/07/2003709B08.html

Go TED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:04 PM
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baffie Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:23 PM
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14. I don't get it. Clarify please?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:31 PM
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22. It is off topic
- It's a tired old wing nut paper's attempt to link Sadam and Osama but the flip article reiterates the emnity:

''This is a list of the henchmen of the regime. Our hands will reach them sooner or later. Woe unto them.''


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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:31 PM
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23. You've Made some Fascinating Posts
I've had the privilege of reading most of your posts, and they're really interesting. I would encourage other DU members to do the same, as you might get a completely different point of view from what we normally see on the left, or anywhere near it.

And welcome to Democratic Underground, by the way.

Yes, Kennedy had Chappaquidick back in '69, I think it was. Bush has been murdering people regularly since sometime in the mid-90's.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:33 PM
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25. Al Qaeda Cells Existed in Kurdish-Occupied Areas
that we know for sure. The rest is rumor and hearsay.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:05 PM
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2. Great statement by Kennedy. Very powerful.
The American people deserve to know whether the President is making war and peace decisions based on reliable information. We cannot risk American lives because of shoddy intelligence or outright lies.


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GayboyBilly Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:08 PM
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3. Go get him!
Teddy has always been one of my favorite's.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:08 PM
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4. at least he said "outright lies"!!!
More power to you Ted! I hope you live a very long and consistently productive life!

He goes right for the gut - thank God! He knows the truth about this BS!!!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:10 PM
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:13 PM
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6. You must be young
Do a search on Kennedy and Chappaquidick (sp?)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:15 PM
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:25 PM
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15. So what does an event that occurred in 1969 have to do with this?
I can understand one questioning those events but in a thread where the issue is the reasons for war you are going to bring up a death associated with an unfortunate accident versus thousands of deaths associated with a lie?

What's up with that?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:16 PM
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8. Isn't it true that Bush* got a minor pregnant and paid for an abortion?
- I think you're missing the point. If Bush* fabricated evidence to invade a country that didn't pose a threat to the US...then he literally murdered thousands of innocent civilians.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:21 PM
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:30 PM
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20. Besides having difficulties with syntax and logic, you are a bit
lacking on history and military terminology.
The forces for Liberia will be peacekeeping forces not an invasion. Germany was an involvement due to our allies and was a threat to those nations.

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:37 PM
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26. Bush* INVADED a country with SHOCK AND AWE...
...meant to do the most possible damage to Iraq. Bush's Shock and Awe killed mostly civilians.

- Bush* characterized Iraq as such an immediate threat to the US that they had to be attacked NOW. He told this nation it would be a mistake to wait...that Saddam was involved in 9-11 and intimated that he was going to nuke the US.

- He lied about all of this because he thought he could (once again) get away with it. I hope he's proven wrong.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:23 PM
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13. and isn't it true that Bush* lied and thousands have died!
That is the crux of Ted's message. If you don't like it, go away - go far far away ...

Kennedy has delivered a statement on his beliefs of this murderous admin. I hope they are all jailed for life!

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:22 PM
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11. And why do you ask?
If you consider this relevant to his remarks as a senator about Iraq, please review the personal lives and mistakes of Bush, Cheney, Laura Bush, and the Republican leadership and evaluate their statements on all subjects in the same light.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:26 PM
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16. Laura Bush killed her ex-boyfriend in a head on collision
Laura is a murderer who should have served time behind bars. She just happened to hit the car that her boyfriend was driving and kill him.
Wow, the murdering bitch belongs in the Bush crime family.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:17 PM
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9. Exactly ! The lie by itself is bad enough but...
if it was told, on purpose, to deceive the people into believing there was an imminent threat that really wasn't there and our troops are being killed because of that decision, then that is a a different matter altogether...
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:26 PM
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18. It's also true that Bush* hijacked the inspection process...
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 12:27 PM by Q
...and never intended to resolve the issue any other way than WAR.

- Bush* DROVE this nation to war saying there was simply no other option. He used fear of 9-11, threatened the opposition, intimidated the free press...and lied about about the urgent need to invade Iraq.

- Not to mention that the very first bomb Bush* ordered dropped on Iraq was on a CIVILIAN TARGET...against international law and Geneva Convention. Bush* is a war criminal and should be made accountable.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:38 PM
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27. 1st bomb dropped week after inaugration!
I wonder how many people remember that * bombed Baghdad the week after he was *barf* inaugrated?

And everyone sits around with their finger up their arse wonder :wtf: happpened and why was there a 9/11?

I believe that 9/11 was a direct consequence of this horrific act!

People are soooooooooooooo stupid!!

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baffie Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:22 PM
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12. Yay Ted! He never lets me down!
:loveya:

LOVE you, Senator!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:26 PM
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17. Two Words: "War Powers"
The Constitution does not authorize the President to make "war and peace decisions." Could it be any clearer why this was decided? Only Congress can declare war. Only Congress can provide funds for the military, and then such funds are limited to two years before they must be reappropriated.

Congress, including Kennedy, has abdicated its Constitutional duty.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:28 PM
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19. Ted Kennedy would have made
a great President. The country would be in a lot better shape. Aside from the incident mentioned above, he was having a lot of trouble with his wife's drinking problem and it's probably a lot better that he wasn't the President. We need him where he is anyway.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:31 PM
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21. Did you know that Ted Kennedy was once in a 'small plane accident'...
...that almost took his life?

- Ted's words ring true. His past is irrelevant to Bush's* malfeasance.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:32 PM
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24. did you know Ted was supposed to be w/Wellstone?
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 12:33 PM by twilight
That would have definitely have taken his life! :wtf:

This 'administration' tries to outright KILL those that don't agree with them.

I say show the whole damn lot of them the door ASAP and lock them up in prison where they belong!!!!

Murders! All of them!

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