Iran's Pres. is a Hostage Taking Terrorist, we MUST topple his regime!

[mopaul]

here we go

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8939640

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Two leading figures in the 1979 seizure of the U.S. embassy in Iran denied on Thursday reports president-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took part in the 444-day hostage drama which led Washington to break ties with Tehran.
"Ahmadinejad was not among those who occupied the American embassy after the revolution," said Abbas Abdi, who helped to orchestrate the raid on the embassy and the seizure of its staff after the Islamic revolution.

Fifty-two Americans were held for 444 days. Washington severed ties with Tehran in 1980 and has branded Iran as part of an "axis of evil" for allegedly pursuing nuclear arms and sponsoring terrorism. Iran denies the charges.

In an interview with the Washington Times newspaper, three Americans held hostage in the Islamic state said they remembered Ahmadinejad, who won Iran's presidential election by a landslide last week, as a key player in the seizure.

[meegbear]

1. WE'RE GONNA INVA-ADE!

WE'RE GONNA INVA-ADE! WE'RE GONNA INVA-ADE!

[Just Me]

2. A BushCo buddy?

:scared:

[Mika]

6. Bingo!!

[peekaloo]

3. Yep. Ex-hostages making the early morning TV rounds commenting

on their "evility".

Condi-liar crying election fraud.

Iran needs some liberatin' luv from Dear Leader.

[patrice]

4. Not with China behind him. Same stupid mistake as The Cold War!

Power to The People.

We will NOT be War Slaves.

[ElectroPrincess]

5. Why do I get the impression that this is another

Rove-Co wet dream ... suggestion to the gullible, more traumatized hostages? After all, don't all those Persians look kinda alike? :sarcasm:

Note also that other hostages DENY that this is the same guy. Without verification why is the whorish USA Corporate Media once again scaring the American sheeple with rumors?

Methinks that the Holloway story leads are getting cold, no criminal intent in the young boys found dead in the trunk of a car; and no more horrific shark attacks ...

well ... what is an Executive Branch dictated media going to do to keep the American People's minds AWAY FROM important stuff like Increased Intelligence authority, the DSM, GITMO abuses, Bush's tanked speech and MORE than 17 troops killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

Nope, we are going to be forced to focus on that "EVIL Persian Leader" and the unsubstantiated reports of SOME hostages THINKING that it could be one of their captors.

Idiots and Whores make up *all* of the USA Corporate Media ... They're Shameless! :P

[Todd B]

7. I hear it's pretty easy to instantly tell who someone was 20 years ago.

Yeah, I hear that it's easy to tell what someone looked like when they were 24 in a photograph where you can barely make out his face.

But, hey, all them arabs look the same so he must be a terrorist. :eyes:

[ElectroPrincess]

12. Just one small point ...

That's funny! Our American sheeple are probably, overall, so clueless to exclaim, "All those Arabs look alike."

However, it's a completely different culture in Iran. The Iranians are Persian, NOT Arab.

Nope, they're Persian in Iran. But what the hell, Italian men are often held up at check points because they're blessed / cursed with that dark olive skin tone.


So yeah, all those brown skinned people native to the Middle East look alike to the American Chicken-hawk. Sure, bomb um' into the stone age, just like we did in Vietnam. :puke:

[Todd B]

23. Sadly, you're right.

Sadly, you are right. Many people just see a skin tone and automagically assume that they are from a certain culture.

I wasn't around for Vietnam, but from what I've read it was the exact same way - so I don't expect it to change anytime soon.

I'm not too adapt on the Iranian culture, unfortunatly, but don't they have a different "version" (for lack of a better word) of the Islam religion also? I thought I read that in some research I did.

[northernsoul]

21. ask any cop, lawyer, or judge:

witness accuracy for precise detail is never very good, and deteriorates at a geometric rate with the passage of time. This story is a set-up.

[sweetheart]

8. I wonder what your troll gallery will say about this one

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10596

Mopaul rocks... he's got a fan club! :-)

[ElectroPrincess]

13. Please "sweetheart!"

Don't trouble yourself by checking out that board. I don't VALUE what *any* cruel and vindictive Right Wingers have to say about individual members here. Remember, they are lashing-out because they are threatened. Not worth reading the insults that are inappropriate and blatantly untrue.

It's not only tacky, it's immoral. We may be biased here at DU but we do NOT attack any one individual on DU or any other message board. These folks need to grow the hell up. Feel sorry for their intense hatred. It must be awful to be in their shoes.

Trust me, I've been called a *bitch* on those boards more times than I care to recall. I finally decided that it's not worth the effort to enjoy a few moderate Republicans who are sane and thoughtful, while the EXTREME wingers are degrading your person.

Not worth it. ;)

Best, EP

[sweetheart]

14. I found this 2 nights ago

I did not know the site was running, and then i searched and found that
the underworld has been keeping alternate discussions with posts and
links from chats i've had here.

As a person with the thick skin it takes to write on DU, i actually
laughed quite a bit leafing through the stuff there. Its all a bit
peurile to call "conservative" though... and ironic in that regard.

[ElectroPrincess]

15. You're a better board member than I ...

I do have a sensitive nature and also, I don't think that I'm alone in that admission of, what can be considered, mostly a nurturing and thoughtful temperament. These insults are hurtful to many people.

It doesn't take a person of thick skin to stay at DU. Why? because personal attacks are not permitted. The vast majority of time people snipe, they reach a respectful understanding or take it PM.

Nope, it's not funny when you think about there being a "real person" behind the keyboard.

I doubt that these folks would be the swaggering "warriors" if they were forced to discuss these topics with us face to face.

Bottom Line: They're nasty and I would encourage anyone who is not "battlefield tested" in message board warfare, stay far away from Right Winger boards.

[sweetheart]

18. What is personal

What i write is "my work" and not my person. Sometimes i do shoddy
work, as is the fact in unedited first draft writing... sometimes the
dots don't line up, and a peice comes off askew from the writer's
intent.

When somebody critiques my work as a personal insult... like on CU,
"she/he is off the lithium" ... was one i read. The comment is so
wide of my person, i just laugh.

Whereas on DU, i've had people who are much more familiar with my
person, after reflecting on so many years of "my work".. and a more
subtle DU critique can be much much more personal by the mere fact
that i respect the other writers here and their views.

Mopaul is brilliant, and they call him "king moonbat" .. ha... mopaul
would not write for so many years if he did not have a great heart and
a peaceful soul... one that would probably laugh at being called a
moon bat. :-)

It seems the only insult they can resort to, is to say "<xyz> is off
his/her meds". They suggest insanity is the cause of writing opposition
to the nazis. It is so very victorian, to wage a slander campaign
that your opposition be committed to an asylum for you to complete a
political takeover... and is hardly unexpected. *yawn* is all i
can say to the poor chappies... they miss some lovin and express it
in the language of perverts.

[ElectroPrincess]

20. Kudos for your attitude ...

You are correct. And I appreciate the perspective.

I guess it "floors me" that people can be so vindictive. I truly have lived a sheltered life. But at least I'm smart enough to own up to it.

Thanks much for the insight into the Per-verted world of some ... guess you can find them everywhere. However, it's most distasteful when they congregate, i.e., right wing ranting boards. :-)

[Brotherjohn]

9. And so what if it IS? A few hostages (released) and we bomb and...

... subjugate (another) entire country?

In the first minute, we'd kill more innocents than the students did throughout the whole ordeal.

Oh, and BTW, what was Ariel Sharon up to a couple of decades ago? Just asking.

[unhappycamper]

10. Regime change begins at home.

After we take care of that, we can talk about other regimes.

[hexola]

11. BBC says - not the guy....

Hijacked from LBN post by allemand

Mohsen Mirdamadi, who was the leader of the hostage takers, told the BBC that Mr Ahmadinejad had never been with them even for one minute.

Another top student leader, Abbas Abdi, also denied the allegations as did Hamid Reza Jalaiepour, another hostage-taker. (...)

The three former students are now reformists who oppose hardliners like Mr Ahmadinejad, and would have no reason to hide his involvement now.

Photographs have appeared on the internet showing a young bearded man leading a blindfolded American hostage (...). But the man in the photograph appears much taller than Mr Ahmadinejad, and looks nothing like other pictures of him as a student which can be found on his website.

More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4636955.stm

[mopaul]

17. Iran president denies charge...nbc tv

[elias49]

16. Shit-floats veterans

Just goes to show that some people will do anything for 15 minutes of fame.
Or money.

[Stockholm]

19. Ain´t propaganda swell

Sounds like a new challenge to the liberal bloggers of the world?

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. "...three Americans...said they remembered Ahmadinejad..."

Surprise, surprise. One of those three is a 'former CIA'.

Booga Booga Booga!!!

[hexola]

24. MSNBC - running major propoganda...interviewing the ex-hostage...

...who is likely making a fool out of himself...

MSNBC newswhore questioning him as if there is no question about his claim...

After 25 years...you might not recognize your best friend...

[dogday]

25. Iran is not going to do anything about this

and frankly if we did not like them being taken hostage we should of addressed this over 20 years ago when their beloved Reagan was president, he was ready to take them down. Should of done it when he had the chance...