Iraq Vets are having strange Illnesses

[oxbow]

I was checking out an online group for war vets. Many of them seem to be suffering from different illnesses. Along with PTSD, which is to be expected, there are others who are having autoimmune and major digestive issues.

Anybody heard any reports about the depleted uranium or other things over there causing this? Many of them seem to be in pretty bad shape.

http://groups.msn.com/IraqWarVeterans/ptsdiraq.msnw
http://groups.msn.com/IraqWarVeterans/iraqwarvets.msnw

[Warpy]

1. I remember skin rashes

digestive diseases and a lot of birth defects happening to returned vets from Desert Fiasco I.

And yes, I think depleted uranium is the likely culprit. Any place that has had this stuff used in warfare experiences a huge increase in horrific birth defects and adult illnesses.

The media whores are silent, of course.

[Eloriel]

2. Here are a few links

*****Immediate Action Required on Depleted Uranium (a primer for the beginner) By Doug Rokke, Ph.D., Apr 20, 2005, 11:11
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_16946.shtml



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Monday 30th May 2005 (20h28) :
Depleted Uranium: A Scientific Perspective
An Interview With LEUREN MORET, Geoscientist
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6232

DU is going to kill us all! THIS IS A MUST READ!!!
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1814331&mesg_id=1814331&page=
Link: http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm

DEPLETED URANIUM: OBSERVATORY LAMENTS DENIAL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x982887
Link:
http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=200410191947-1213-RT1-CRO-0-NF11&page=0&id=agionline-eng.oggitalia

Heads roll at VA (11,000 usa gulf war dead from Depleted Uranium)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x109556#109562

The Silent Genocide from America
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x109375

325,000 Gulf War 1 Vets On Permanent Disability-11,000 Dead
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3190803&mesg_id=3190803&page=

US Military, President - Out of Control
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x108222

DEPLETED URANIUM: OBSERVATORY LAMENTS DENIAL
http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=200410191947-1213-RT1-CRO-0-NF11&page=0&id=agionline-eng.oggitalia
discussed here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x982887

Heads roll at VA (11,000 usa gulf war dead from Depleted Uranium)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x109556#109562

[w8liftinglady]

5. excellent post nt

[oxbow]

7. I knew I had heard something about DU at DU!

Thanks Eloriel. I will bookmark this.

[journalist3072]

3. I had a family friend...

Who served in the first Gulf War, and became ill when he returned home from the war.

Also, my late grandfather served in the Korean war, and my mom said that he always came home sick from the Agent Orange.

[oxbow]

4. Check out this post too

Got alot of responses from Vets:

Subject: Our thanks to PTSD combat veterans: we screw up your life!

My son did 15 months in Iraq, combat unit, no R&R home, no Qatar rest break. He saw action in Baghdad and then later on in the "Triangle of Death" after he was extended. He got shot at, direct fire and indirect fire. Several friends of his were killed. He was awarded a Combat Medic Badge, an ARCOM and given several certificates of appreciation and a letter of commendation.

In other words, he's done more than 99.9% of Americans will ever do.

He gets back home on leave, seems very upset, talks about killing, people dying and body parts he's picked up. Goes back to his unit, they screw up his request for assignment, he gets orders to a unit going back to Iraq after only five months out. He gets caught using marijuana. Around 20 others in his unit do around the same time.

Now, it's well documented that substance abuse is a result of PTSD. Does the Army offer any treatment, counseling, rehabilitation? Most of these guys would be OK with 30 days in the stockade and some counseling, a kick in the ass and a pat on the back as they say.

No, they offer them a choice: either take an Article 15 and a Chapter 10 other-than-honorable discharge (no veterans' benefits) or get court martialed and a bad conduct discharge. We are trying to fight it, but the Army just wants to kick these soldiers in the gutter with no benefits after all they went through. I went to visit him and it was sad seeing all these guys with Combat Infantry and Combat Medic Badges with no rank after they got their Article 15s, just waiting for their other-than-honorable discharges.

Recruiter called my house to ask for my younger son in high school. I told him never to call again, the military will get no more of my own. It's a sucker's game.

http://groups.msn.com/IraqWarVeterans/ptsdiraq.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1030&LastModified=4675528592281013087

[whistle]

6. Check out the vaccines they received for mercury poisoning...

....plus evidence of radiation toxins from depleted uranium weapons used.

[whistle]

9. Here are the symptoms of acute mercury poisoning:

Symptoms of Chronic Mercury Poisoning

CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM

irritability
anxiety/nervousness, often with difficulty in breathing
restlessness
exaggerated response to stimulation
fearfulness
emotional instability
-lack of self control
-fits of anger, with violent, irrational behavior
loss of self confidence
indecision
shyness or timidity, being easily embarrassed
loss of memory
inability to concentrate
lethargy/drowsiness
insomnia
mental depression, despondency
withdrawal
suicidal tendencies
manic depression

numbness and tingling of hands, feet, fingers, toes, or lips
muscle weakness progressing to paralysis
ataxia
tremors/trembling of hands, feet, lips, eyelids or tongue
in-coordination
myoneural transmission failure resembling Myasthenia Gravis


HEAD, NECK, ORAL CAVITY DISORDERS
bleeding gums
alveolar bone loss
loosening of teeth
excessive salivation
foul breath
metallic taste
burning sensation, with tingling of lips, face
tissue pigmentation (amalgam tattoo of gums)
leukoplakia
stomatitis (sores in the mouth)
ulceration of gingiva, palate, tongue
dizziness/acute, chronic vertigo
ringing in the ears
hearing difficulties
speech and visual impairment
-glaucoma
-restricted, dim vision

GASTROINTESTINAL EFFECTS
food sensitivities, especially to milk and eggs
abdominal cramps, colitis, diverticulitis or other G.I. complaint
chronic diarrhea/constipation

CARDIOVASCULAR EFFECTS
abnormal heart rhythm
characteristic findings on EKG
-abnormal changes in the S-T segment and/or
-lower broadened P wave
unexplained elevated serum triglyceride
unexplained elevated cholesterol
abnormal blood pressure, either high or low

IMMUNOLOGIC
repeated infections
-viral and fungal
-mycobacteria
-candida and other yeast infections
cancer
autoimmune disorder
-arthritis
-lupus erythematosus (LE)
-multiple sclerosis (MS)
-scleroderma
-amyolateral sclerosis (ALS)
-hypothyroidism

SYSTEMIC EFFECTS
chronic headaches
allergies
severe dermatitis
unexplained reactivity
thyroid disturbance
subnormal body temperature
cold, clammy skin, especially hands and feet
excessive perspiration, w/frequent night sweats
unexplained sensory symptoms, including pain
unexplained numbness or burning sensations
unexplained anemia
-G-6-PD deficiency
Chronic kidney disease
-nephrotic syndrome
-receiving renal dialysis
-kidney infection
adrenal disease
general fatigue
loss of appetite/with or without weight loss
loss of weight
hypoglycemia

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. Hallibacon?? No... I agree with the DU issues.... not good.

Imagine the poor children in Iraq now....


http://nonprofitnet.ca/wao/wao.php?show&849

The U.S., however, cares little about international treaties these days and has deflected accusations that its depleted uranium was responsible for either Gulf War Syndrome or the burgeoning cancers and birth defects with which the Iraqi children are afflicted.

A letter dated March 10 addressed to George W. Bush and signed by 1,000 American war veterans questioning Bush's rush to war reads: "Over the long term, the 1991 Gulf War has had a lasting, detrimental impact on the health of countless people in the region, and on the health of American men and women who served there… Over 164,000 American Gulf War veterans are now considered disabled…".

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. Over 164,000 American Gulf War veterans are now considered disabled…".

Over 164,000 American Gulf War veterans are now considered disabled…"



Document Dated: June 2, 2001
Date Posted: June 19, 2001

Disability Claimed By More Than 25% Gulf War Vets

Gulf Vet Disability Claimed By More Than 183,000 Vets

http://www.gulfweb.org/doc_show.cfm?ID=748

Benson said that another 36,782 disability claims by Gulf War vets are now pending and are being evaluated. About 700,000 members of the U.S. Armed Forces took part in the nine-month military campaign that decided the outcome of the Gulf War.

25 FREAKIN PERCENT!!!??

added stats

[HysteryDiagnosis]

16. Nice avatar.... so true, so true.....

[HysteryDiagnosis]

18. Yes yes.... but at least they have "democracy".

[The Traveler]

10. My stepson

who is shipping out to Iraq in September has heard the same buzz. The causes are at this point a mystery, but it is clear bad things are happening to some of these people.

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. Possibly depleted uranium...

possibly exposure to some chemical warfare agent. Quite a few Gulf War I veterans have VERY strange medical issues; the oddest I've heard is the inability of some to have sexual intercourse with their wives because their semen BURNS on contact with vaginal mucosa.

[oxbow]

15. I don't think theres any chem warfare in Iraq right now

The vets seem to think its because of all the smoke, stress, even middle eastern parasites. I don't think theres a systematic realization that they are not alone, that there is something very wrong in Iraq. My best guess is the DU over there at this point.

btw-Transmetropolitan rocks. Spider jerusalem was my hero growing up!

[Merrick]

13. And where is the mainstream media on this issue?

Upwards of half our military men returning from Gulf I & II are either receiving or are petitioning for veterans health care. How many of these were actually hurt by bullets or shrapnel?

Cancers, autoimmune disorders and birth defects are off the charts in Iraq, not to mention Afghanistan and parts of Bosnia, and what do we see about this from the mainstream media?

Rich white girl still missing in Aruba and Tom Cruise has lost his freaking mind.

[HockeyMom]

14. Two Gulf Vets I know

Husband and wife who both served there and had two autistic sons.

She thinks it was from all the vaccines they both had to take and was trying to get medical care for her boys from the government but to no avail.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. Have them google for autism and glyconutrients, there may be

some help there for them.... believe it or not.

[oxbow]

19. kickin for the medical experts. nt