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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:33 PM
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Tomorrow, if they realease the prison pictures, they will show the Taliban
executing the helicopter survivors. This story is coming out waaaay tooooo sllllloooooooowwwwwww. Abu Grhaib will look like a kindergarten class. Could happen. His numbers would sky-rocket.
9-11 all over again.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:35 PM
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1. You mean the Taliban had AP photographers there....
...allowing them to video executions of U.S. survivors? Staged shots perhaps, real photos of anything like that, I seriously doubt it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:50 PM
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10. The initial report said the Taliban had videotaped it.
Don't seriously doubt it.

~snip~ Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi said militants had shot down the aircraft in the village of Shorak using "a new type of weapon," which he did not describe. He also claimed to have videotape of the crash and its aftermath. ~snip~

http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050629-103153-7781r
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:36 PM
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2. Or * will be blamed for not finishing the job in Afghanistan
That's the truth, isn't it?

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:36 PM
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3. The Taliban has that video
Or so they claim. They are every bit as capable of using propaganda in war as the Bush crowd is, and every bit as capable of dishonesty.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:39 PM
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4. Nothing new about atrocities in Afghanistan.....
From Kipling:

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier OF the Queen!

I have seen footage of prisoners who had been skinned alive when the taliban was fighting the warlords.
The horrors occur daily, and have for centuries.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:42 PM
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7. Hey!
Quick draw, eh?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:55 PM
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12. Have never gotten that stanza out of my head since I first read it
as a teenager. Love the stuff he wrote AFTER his son died...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:59 PM
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13. It lingers
I don't know Kipling's timeline, but I know that most of the time I read him I just shrug and wonder why he thought it was worth saying. But now and then, he can give me goosebumps.

How'd his son die? Did he get better after that, or just darker?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:04 PM
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15. Kid bought it in WWI...only child...
Kipling became somewhat anti-war, when he had been raise-the-flag jingoistic imperial cheerleader
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:42 PM
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5. When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Rudyard Kipling

Full poem here: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/poems/1146.html
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:42 PM
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6. " .... executing the helicopter survivors."
Do you mean the ones where the victims were lying in the grass, after the pics of the actual chopper that went down showed it in a grassless sandy area?

Or the situation today with the reinforcements being flown into the firefight in AFG?

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:43 PM
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8. Pppppffffftttttt!!!!!
You give him too much credit, seriously.

His numbers are going to skyrocket about the same way I am going to wake up tomorrow as the Queen of England.

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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:44 PM
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9. What time are the photos being released?
Because if they are, there is going to be a major news story to take the publics attention away from it.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:51 PM
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11. This gives me the creeps.
My horror's better than your horror..... neener, neener, neener.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:51 PM
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18. Indeed
It's very childish, just like many Americans.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:00 PM
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14. These Photos Will Be The Final Straw On This War!
IF WE MAKE IT STICK!

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We must keep this issue in the public's mind regardless of whatever else happens!!! Get on board!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:09 PM
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16. God I hope so.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:11 PM
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17. It Will Be Up To US! Just Like DSM!
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