DR. Rice: The Iraq war came to US on September 11

[Bluebear]

Iraq = Middle East = September 11 is the new equation.



'The most important point about Iraq is that it was time to deal with Saddam Hussein and to create conditions in this very important region, this very volatile region, that would help bring about a different kind of Middle East so that the United States can be secure. The Middle East came home to us on September 11 in ways that we never expected; and without change in this region, we're going to continue to fight terrorists for a very, very long time.'

http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComunicados.asp?nid=76005&src=0

[Frederik]

1. Yeah, the conditions so that the US can be secure

sure has been created in Iraq, no doubt about it Condi.

[ixion]

2. so, why is it these reptiles are allowed to continue to lie?

once again: NO LINK BETWEEN SADDAM AND WTC. :grr:

[PowerToThePeople]

32. "so, why is it these reptiles are allowed to continue to lie?"

Left out a "V" somewheres, I think..

[Kraklen]

3. That's the same logic the KKK used...

to lynch thousands of black men for "raping" white women.

[atreides1]

23. But

According to the testimony of the mayor in the trial of the former KKK member, he never heard about the KKK doing anything violent.

You see, to some in the south, hanging a black man wasn't considered
to be a violent act, it was thought to be needed so that other blacks would know their place.

[Deja Q]

4. Never expected? Give me a break, chicklet teeth...

The US received LOTS of warnings.

Don't believe me?

Who should I put more faith into? Mainstream media? Foreign media? Internet media, which includes foreign media? You, perhaps? I look at them all and make up my own mind from there. Except for you. Been too many times and too many flip flops and too many statements proved not 100% true.

Edit: Spelling :dunce:

[Richard Steele]

5. I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning.

It's not bad in the afternoon, either!

These idiots have to realize that their propaganda is worn out.
Their broken-record approach is just grasping at the same soggy straws, time and again.

And people are believing it LESS every time they repeat it.

Lots of their Sheeple would happily swallow some NEW lies, but these idiots don't even HAVE any!

[lonestarnot]

6. Ugh wasn't that the Afghani War?

[Bluebear]

9. Shhhhh

You're not supposed to remember that.

[lonestarnot]

45. Oh gosh...help me forget... The thought police will be after me.

[bpilgrim]

7. 911 = The New Pearl Harbor

Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration
and 9/11
Updated Edition with a New Afterword
by David Ray Griffin
Foreword by Richard Falk

http://www.interlinkbooks.com/BooksN/New_Pearl_Harbor.html

peace

[oblivious]

16. Scary, dangerous, manipulative people.

[gratuitous]

8. Uh huh

And tell me, Secretary of Stinkeye, how does sacrificing a generation of young men and women, overburdening our middle and lower classes, spending ourselves into bankruptcy, and emptying what's left of the Treasury into the overstuffed pockets of the uberrich contribute to our national security?

Not to mention the creation of a whole new class of folks who have a murderous beef with the United States, awaiting only the means and the opportunity to take revenge on an international bully-boy that ruined their homeland, murdered their relatives, or indiscriminately killed their co-religionists.

Feel free to start making notes now, Dr. Rice. You may need them one day at The Hague.

[aquart]

10. What a load of fragrant steaming pasture pastry.

[MGKrebs]

11. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[Poiuyt]

12. Bush just said this too

The best way for them to fight fall approval ratings...go back to equating 9/11 and Iraq.

[Desertrose]

13. My god, look at that face and tell me she is not

lying and is not pushing an agenda of lies. She creeps me out for more than one reason.

They sure are getting their money's worth out of 9-11 aren't they?

[stray cat]

14. Bin Laden is still free while Iraq is now a hot bed for terrorism

When will Americans stand up and tell this administration that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11

[me b zola]

25. They are catapulting that bit of propaganda right now

Porter Goss is saying that he is pretty damn sure where OBL is, but we can not get to him unless we disregard respect for other sovereign nations. See where this is leading? MSNBC has a question of the day asking if we should disregard sovereign nations in order to hunt OBL.

[LittleClarkie]

15. If that was their rationale all along

what was with the WMD linkage.

They couldn't just say daddio should have finished the job in the first place, and it's payback time for sonny boy, and so we're just gonna use this 9/11 thingie to justify it all.

What she's saying now comes closer to what the neocon plan has been all along, at least. Might as well be honest in your batshit craziness.

[Disturbed]

21. Would an overthrow of Saddam before 911 Attack..

have stopped the 911 Attack?

An answer to that shred their stupid argument about 911 Attack and Saddam.

[mike_c]

17. oh yes, we're creating "a different kind of Middle East..." in Iraq

Civil war, constant strife, even more misery than under the sanctions, a former secular society with one of the highest standards of education and living in the ME reduced to beggars and insurgents. Thanks for the democracy, Amerika!

[Bluebear]

19. You have to give it to her, it certainly is different after our arrival.

[DS1]

18. PLEASE BELIEVE ME!!

I BEG YOU!

[lapfog_1]

20. So I'm guessing that when Canada launches that long expected

terrorist attack on Europe... we can expect to hear the following:

"The most important point about the US is that it was time to deal with George W. Bush and to create conditions in this very important region, this very volatile region, that would help bring about a different kind of North America so that Europe can be secure. North America came home to us on August 23 in ways that we never expected; and without change in this region, we're going to continue to fight Canadian terrorists for a very, very long time".

-EU Sec State

[Rex]

22. This just convinces me more about LIHOP/MIHOP

Plus she looks insane in that pic. Basically I've learned that whatever they say take the opposite as what is really the truth.

[mopaul]

24. me too

[Zomby Woof]

26. That's the same face I get

When I too, am excreting a big load. :hurts:

[mopaul]

29. condi, baby, let's you & me stop off after work for a high colonic

you're starting to show girl

[donkeyotay]

27. She was the NSA

"The Middle East came home to us on September 11 in ways that we never expected..."

How were we to know? Oh, you who the clueless one relies on for clues. You who developed his foreign strategeries while he went around telling America that he was the Education President. They told us he was just like us - a regular Joe Sixpack, kind of dumb, an isolationist, and he'd be fun to have a beer with.

Ha. Maybe not. Can you imagine these people facing year 5 of the Education President's administration? Frettin over the high cost of pencils?

[Inland]

28. Oh, now the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST attacked us! Lookout, Iran, Syria!

Egypt, India...India's not in the Middle East? Time to redefine the attackers, Condi!

[Bluebear]

31. PRECISELY what she is hinting at.

This is the PNAC "justification" for trying to take over the region.

[Inland]

43. Or maximum flexibility.

Saudi, no. Iran, yes. Pakistan, no. Syria, yes.

[Name removed]

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[ogradda]

33. That old crap again?

Well I'm sure she'll find some new lies to spew soon. It's not like they ever seem to run out of them.

[Jack Rabbit]

34. !!

Image from NASA

[cynatnite]

35. Well, the pic alone scares the shit out of me

the rhetoric scares me even worse. With the shit about Bin Laden in Iran they are trying to make the case for going after Iran next. Geez, this whole thing's got 'end of the world as we know it' shit written all over it. :scared: :nuke:

[Turn CO Blue]

36. I was going to comment on the scary pic of Condi, too!

Jeepers! If the Repukes run her for Pres in 2008, keep a few of those pics around...

[libodem]

37. she thinks she's pandering

to idiots. Notice most of the 9/11 guys came from Saudi Arabia, *'s best friends.

[leftchick]

38. SO WHY NOT BOMB SAUDI ARABIA BACK TO THE STONE AGES???

oops, they are bushco** buds. silly me.

[LynnTheDem]

39. So when was she LYING, then or now?

Rice: U.S. Never Said Saddam Was Behind 9/11
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. national security adviser Condoleezza Rice said on Tuesday the Bush administration had never accused Saddam Hussein of directing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

And LOOK what the FREEPERS said then! ROTFLMAO!!!

-who the heck said Saddam was behind 9/11??

-How many times does does the administation have to repeat this before the media gets it right? Nevermind, they won't. Media=selective hearing

-If these people at Reuter's cannot tell the difference between "Saddam was behind 9/11" and "Saddam had ties to terrorists," then they're more stupid than I thought.

-Lets take a page from the book of the evil ones.. Tell the libs you meet, "Its an old story, lets move on and work for the safety and security of the American people..."

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sky News (London): "One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?"

Bush: "I can't make that claim.'
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030131-23.html

Bush: No evidence Saddam Hussein involved in Nine-Eleven attacks
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1447698

Sept 16, 2003- Rumsfeld sees no link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-09-16-rumsfeld-iraq-911_x.htm

Wolfowitz: Iraq Was Not Involved In 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, No Ties To Al-Qaeda
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4372.htm

Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors;

"Don't Attack Saddam. It would undermine our antiterror efforts. There is scant evidence to tie Saddam to terrorist organizations, and even less to the Sept. 11 attacks."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

Allies Find No Links Between Iraq, Al Qaeda

"What I'm asked is if I've seen any evidence of that. (Iraq links to al Qaeda) And the answer is: I haven't.” -British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who supports U.S. invasion & occupation of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-noqaeda4nov04,0,4538810.story

British Intelligence agencies, MI6 and MI5

A dossier prepared by the two agencies “showed no discernible links between Iraq and al-Qaida,”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=375403

Richard Kerr, a former deputy CIA director who lead an internal review of the CIA's prewar intelligence;

“the CIA has not found any proof of operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime.”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=375403

The White House’s own publication, A Decade of Defiance and Deception, makes no mention of Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html

The 2002 congressional joint intelligence committee’s report on the Sept. 11 attacks revealed that the Bush administration had no evidence to support its claim that Saddam’s government was supporting al-Qaeda.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030723-064812-9491r

MSNBC - No proof links Iraq, al-Qaida, Powell says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/3909150

According to a "top secret British document", quoted by the BBC "there is nothing but enmity between Iraq and Al Qaeda."

The BBC said the leak came from intelligence officials upset that their work was being used to justify war." (quoted in Daily News, New York, 6 February 2003).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO303D.html

Iraq-al Qaeda links weak, say former Bush officials

Three former Bush administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues have told National Journal that the prewar evidence tying al Qaeda to Iraq was tenuous, exaggerated, and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0803/080803nj2.htm

Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. On Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda

"…analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency have complained that senior administration officials have exaggerated the significance of some intelligence reports about Iraq, particularly about its possible links to terrorism, in order to strengthen their political argument for war, government officials said."

and…

"At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, some investigators said they were baffled by the Bush administration's insistence on a solid link between Iraq and Osama bin Laden|s network. "We've been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don't think it's there," a government official said."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70D1EF83E5C0C718CDDAB0894DB404482

This is consistent with what they were saying back in October 2002.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A14056-2002Oct24

"There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever."
-Richard Clarke, former terrorism chief under bush.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

Iraq-al Qaeda ties have not been found

Bush administration hyped sketchy and false evidence to push for war
The Bush administration’s claim that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had ties to al Qaeda — one of the administration’s central arguments for a pre-emptive war — appears to have been based on even less solid intelligence than the administration’s claims that Iraq had hidden stocks of chemical and biological weapons.

Nearly a year after U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq, no evidence has turned up to verify allegations of Saddam’s links with al Qaeda, and several key parts of the administration’s case have either proved false or seem increasingly doubtful.
http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/2004/03/04/news/nation/8101079.htm

Iraq and al Qaeda: What Evidence?
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=23816

bush's own hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. David Kay;

David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all."

He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link, as being "evidence free."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/06/16/bush_backs_cheney_on_assertion_linking_hussein_al_qaeda

Israeli intelligence (the Moussad)

“According to Israeli intelligence, Palestinians are still not connected to the global terror network, and neither is Iraq.”
http://www.haaretz.com /

bush's second and final hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. Charles Dueffler;

Report: No WMD stockpiles in Iraq, no capability since 1991, no evidence of ties to al Qaeda, no serious threat;
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/06/1096949583023.html?from=storylhs

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/

OFFICIAL VERDICT: WHITE HOUSE MISLED WORLD OVER SADDAM-AL QAEDA TIES
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0617-03.htm

No evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda ties: 9/11 commission
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/cheney.911

"CIA Review Finds No Evidence Saddam Had Ties to Islamic Terrorists"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1005-01.htm

NO ties between Iraq and international terrorists, al-Qaeda or otherwise:

Central to the Saddam - al Qaeda connection claim is the assertion that Czech authorities had evidence of a meeting between one of the September 11 hijackers, Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi agent in Prague in April 2001.

Both Czech President Vaclav Havel and Czech intelligence refuted this report.
http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/2155.html

More than that, so do the FBI and CIA;

Only one problem with that story, the FBI pointed out. Atta was traveling at the time between Florida and Virginia Beach, Va. (The bureau had his rental car and hotel receipts)
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/060203A.shtml

Ansar al-Islam, a radical Kurdish group, whose leader lives a free man in Norway, after 2 FBI interrogations found nothing to even declare him an "enemy combatant".

Of course there's that other pesky little fact, that Ansar al lives in the Kurdish north of Iraq, out of Saddam's control and under Kurdish AND AMERICAN control for the past 13 years.

http://www.iht.com/articles/85957.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO302B.html

FACTS ARE GOOD.

[Bluebear]

41. An excellent post as usual. n/t

[bridgit]

40. 9-11, the 'one size fits all' rationale...

no wonder the bush admin was so complacent in the face of it's unfolding doom :thumbsdown:

[Straight Shooter]

42. My eyes! Bluebear, please, please WARN US when you post her pic.

I could have prepared myself.

I realize you're finding the most flattering pics of her that are available, but still ... excuse me, gotta go find some Pepto-Bismol now.

[Bluebear]

44. 'the most flattering pics of her that are available'

hehehehehehe

[insane_cratic_gal]

46. Drama Queen

Look at that. Rice at least lies with conviction, even she is starting to believe her own bullshit

[manic expression]

47. Delusion...pure DELUSION.

Sometimes I think these people are bridging on insanity.

"The Jewish and Communist conspiracy came home to us when they burned down the Reichstag"....:banghead:

Nevermind the fact that we are CREATING MORE TERRORISTS BECAUSE OF UNJUSTIFIED ACTIONS! Nevermind the fact that we are creating more and more problems due to irresponsible and disgusting behavior!

To quote another poster: "Feel free to start making notes, you'll need them on trial at The Hague"