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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:09 PM
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"We will settle for nothing less than victory."
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 03:10 PM by BurtWorm
This is how they try to turn Bush's numbers around? By pretending they're succeeding with the economy and in Iraq? By repeating the same old shit over and over and over? Pathetic!

This is from Bush's radio address last weekend:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/06/20050618.html

As we work to deliver opportunity at home, we're also keeping you safe from threats from abroad. We went to war because we were attacked, and we are at war today because there are still people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens. Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror. These foreign terrorists violently oppose the rise of a free and democratic Iraq, because they know that when we replace despair and hatred with liberty and hope, they lose their recruiting grounds for terror.

Our troops are fighting these terrorists in Iraq so you will not have to face them here at home. We mourn every one of these brave men and women who have given his or her life for our liberty. The terrorists know they cannot defeat our troops, so they seek to weaken our nation's resolve. They know there is no room for them in a free and democratic Middle East, so the terrorists and insurgents are trying to get us to retreat. Their goal is to get us to leave before Iraqis have had a chance to show the region what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do for its people.

Time and again, the Iraqi people have defied the skeptics who claim they are not up to the job of building a free society. Nearly a year ago, Iraqis showed they were ready to resume sovereignty. A few months ago, Iraqis showed they could hold free elections. This week, Iraqis have worked on an agreement to expand their constitutional drafting committee to ensure that all communities are represented in the process. I am confident that Iraqis will continue to defy the skeptics as they build a new Iraq that represents the diversity of their nation and assumes greater responsibility for their own security. And when they do, our troops can come home with the honor they have earned.

This mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight. We're fighting a ruthless enemy that relishes the killing of innocent men, women, and children. By making their stand in Iraq, the terrorists have made Iraq a vital test for the future security of our country and the free world. We will settle for nothing less than victory.

I'll continue to act to keep our people safe from harm and our future bright. Together we will do what Americans have always done: build a better and more peaceful world for our children and grandchildren.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:11 PM
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1. What would this "victory" thing look like?
I think of that cartoon - forget where - where the guys are getting excited about the "war on terror" and looking forward to the day when there will "be no more terror" Yeah, that'll be great.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:11 PM
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2. WTF?
"I'll continue to act to keep our people safe from harm and our future bright. Together we will do what Americans have always done: build a better and more peaceful world for our children and grandchildren."

HUH???????????
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:12 PM
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3. HAHAHAHA...declare total victory on a TACTIC
What's he gonna do next, declare war on the counter attack? The strategic retreat? The cavalry charge?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:13 PM
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4. What would Bush know about a government that is elected and truly
accountable to it's citizens?
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:14 PM
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5. To quote Callaghan...
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 03:17 PM by Kipling
"A lie can go around the world before the truth has got it's boots on."
I'm willing to bet that's what Bush is hoping anyway.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:22 PM
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6. This is not a 'war'
For it to be a war, there has to be an enemy who can surrender. In other words, there needs to be some way to signal the formal cessation of hostilities -- the passing of a sword, the signing of surrender documents on the deck of a battleship, etc.

Who is going to 'surrender' in this make-believe 'war' started by an idiot man-child?

Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. You cannot win against a tactic, any more than you can catch the wind.

And the American people just follow along, wave their flags, stick magnetic yellow ribbons on their cars and 'support' our troops without making one single sacrifice or action of consequence, like sending goodie boxes via AnySoldier or writing LTTE or calling their representatives.

Everytime we let * call it a war, we need to challenge him: "Who will sign the surrender papers to end this war once we're victorious?"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:27 PM
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7. "...all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq
a central front in the war on terror."

I disagree. In fact most of us probably agree that George W. Bush is an asshole who may actually think "the world's terrorists" have made Iraq a front in the war on terror, but who is probably just spinning bullshit to justify his grab of Iraqi oil.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:34 PM
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8. Didn't some general in Iraq say last week that we cannot win militarily?
and that we must pursue diplomatic approachs (or words to that effect)?
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