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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:39 PM
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A serious question abut Iraq casualties
I wonder if there's any way to make a comparison of our casulaties in Iraq to the casualties we suffered in Vietnam, but with a factor that acconts for lives saved now that would have been lost then.

Even in the face of ill equipped soldiers in Iraq, the fact is they're generally far better armored now than they were back then. Also, evacuation and medical care is far better now than then.

Without assuming any more deaths than the 1700+ currently reported, I wonder how our casualties now compare with our casualties then.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:40 PM
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1. It took 5 years into the Viet Nam war to lose 1000 troops IIRC
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:41 PM
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2. That's true, but it really picked up when LBJ got involved
He turned it into a slaughterhouse which was many times worse than what we are seeing now in Iraq.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:43 PM
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3. Those are the raw numbers
My question was how we compare **after** making an allowance for the men today who suffer huge injuries but manage to survive because we're beeter armored and cared for now than then.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:47 PM
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4. I dont think you can because medically we can survive trauma
now that we couldn't survive then as well. So you'd first have to consider whether the survival was due to medical advances or better protection..
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:25 PM
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6. Yes, I understand that, but in the end there's little difference,
as least as it relates to my perhaps inartfully asked question.

I've felt for a while that because of **either** better personal armor **or** better medical care, or **both**, we have fewer deaths and more injuries. I was hoping to be able to compare one to the other.

Perhaps it would serve the same purpose, for the sake of such a comparison, the compare the combined total of deaths and injuries for each conflict, establish a percentage of injry to death, and get to the result that way.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:48 PM
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5. These soldiers are not better armored. Roadside bombs account
for the majority of wounded and casualties. Soldiers are being forced to buy their own equipment just to survive. Might better factor in the age and availability of satisfactory equipment, Nam' vs. Iraq and Afghanistan. Remember, we are fighting in two countries, not just one.
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