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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:39 PM
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Another top Scientist found dead ( blunt force trauma to the head.)
"Some sources link Wednesday’s murder of Anti-Microbe Therapy Institute director Leonid Strachunsky, who specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons, to the hepatitis outbreak, NewsRu.Com added.

Strachunsky was found dead in his hotel room in Moscow, where he came from Smolensk en route to the United States."

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/06/09/bioweapons.shtml

DEAD SCIENTISTS

a few more coincidences here

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadS...

and here

http://home.comcast.net/~typezero /

wait there's more a lot more dead scientists

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadS...

put some coffee on

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html#Anc...
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:46 PM
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1. OMG, what's the count now? n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:53 PM
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3. Well that depends there are many with the cause of death officially
listed as Murder there are also many listed (cause of death as unknown)
and there are some that have gone missing in addition to the many accidental of which I'm sure some are legit.

Check here

Dead Scientists DO Tell Tales

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead.scientist.news.html#Anc...

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:45 PM
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8. DEAD SCIENTISTS
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 05:47 PM by LibertyorDeath
http://home.comcast.net/~typezero/
#1
Jose Trias
Murdered
May 19, 1994
#2
Dr. Tsunao Saitoh
Murdered
May 7, 1996
#3-7 Microbiologists Plane crash October 4, 2001
#8 Jeffrey Paris Wall 41 Murdered? November 6, 2001
#9 Dr.Vladimir Pasechnik 64 Stroke November 21, 2001
#10-12

Dr.Yaakov Matzner, Amiramp Eldor, & Avishai Berkman
54, 59,50 Plane crash November 24, 2001
#13 Roman Kuzmin 24 Struck by a car December 2001
#14 Dr. Benito Que 52 Mugging December 6, 2001
#15 Dr. David Schwartz 57 Murdered December 10, 2001
#16 Set Van Nguyen 44 Found in airlock chamber December 14, 2001
#17 Don C. Wiley 57 Body found by river December 20,2001
#18 Ivan Glebov Bandit attack January 2002
#19 Alexi Brushlinski Killed/murdered? January 2002
#20 Victor Korshunov 56 Murdered February 9, 2002
#21 Dr. Ian Langford 40 Murdered February 11, 2002
#22-23 Tanya Holzmayer & Guyang "Mathew" Huang 46, 38 Murder then suicide February 28, 2002
#24 David Wynn-Williams 55 Struck by vehicle March 24, 2002
#25 Dr. Steven Mostow 63 Plane crash March 25, 2002
#26 Dr. Leland Rickman 47 Unknown June 24, 2003
#27 Dr. David Kelly 59 Suicide?/ Murder July 18, 2003
#28 Michael Perich 46 Car wreck October 11, 2003
#29 Robert Leslie Burghoff 45 Hit and run November 20, 2003
#30 Dr Robert E. Shope 74 Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis January 19, 2004
#31 Michael Patrick Kiley 62 Heart failure January 24, 2004
#32 Vadake Srinivasan 78 Stroke/Car wreck March 13, 2004
#33 William T. McGuire 39 Murdered May 5, 2004
#34 Dr. Eugene F. Mallove 56 Murdered May 16, 2004
#35 Antonina Presnyakova 46 Accidental/Ebola May 19, 2004
#36 Thomas gold 84 Heart disease June 23, 2004
#37 Dr. Assefa Tulu 45 Hemorrhagic stroke June 24, 2004
#38 Dr. John Mullen 67 Acute arsenic intoxication June 29, 2004
#39 Dr Paul Norman 52 Plane crash July 2, 2004
#40 Dr. John Badwey 54 Pneumonia like symptoms July 21, 2004
#41 Dr Bassem al-Mudare Murdered July 21, 2004
#42 Professor John Clark 52 Hanging August 12, 2004
#43 Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani 40 Murdered September 5, 2004
#44 Matthew Allison 32 Car exploded October 13, 2004
#45 John R. La Montagne, Ph.D 61 Sudden pulmonary embolism November 2, 2004
#46 Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher Murdered December 21, 2004
#47-48 Tom Throne & Beth Williams 63, 53 Car wreck December 29, 2004
#49 Jeong H. Im 72 Murdered January 7, 2005
#50 Geetha Angara 43 Murdered/Drowned February 8, 2005

2003




*HHMI Associated with Howard Hughes Medical Institute

From October 4, 2001 till January 7, 2005 the average is about 1.2 deaths per month or approximately 1 every 25 days.

Our sympathies to the aforementioned and their families.

For comments, corrections or questions contact DeadScientists@comcast.net

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:03 PM
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15. Question: how does the number of deaths compare to, say,
some period in the nineties? I'm just curious.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:11 PM
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17. About a dozen in the 90's
Go here http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadScientists2.html

and a hell of a lot in the 80's

In the 1980's over two dozen science graduates and experts working for Marconi or Plessey Defence Systems died in mysterious circumstances, most appearing to be suicides., The MOD denied these scientists had been involved in classified Star Wars Projects and that the deaths were in any way connected. Judge for yourself...

http://www.rense.com/general62/list.htm



From October 4, 2001 till January 7, 2005 the average is about 1.2 deaths per month or approximately 1 every 25 days.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:52 PM
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2. No body died but I thought that this was interesting.... Connection?
Each of these segments was "enlightening"

http://search.npr.org/search97cgi/s97_cgi?cleanQuery=scientists+and+the+bush+administration&ResultTemplate=allow_re_sort.hts&SortSpec=Date+Desc+Score+Desc&ViewTemplate=docview.hts&collection=ALL02&Action=FilterSearch&filter=topic_filter.NEW.hts&QueryText=




Politics: White House Accused of Manipulating Science
07-22-04, Morning Edition


White House Science Policy
02-20-04, Talk of the Nation

Health & Science: Scientists Accuse White House of Distortion
02-18-04, All Things Considered

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:00 PM
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4. Yes Science & Scientists are just another commodity to be bought, sold
and manipulated to their agenda as far as * and his band of thugs are concerned.

They are amoral in the extreme.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:19 PM
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7. If you can't beat them by lying to the public....
then kill them off.... curious... yet probable with these guys
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:02 PM
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5. Has anyone ever been brought to justice
for any of these murders? As far as I know I haven't heard of a single arrest in connection with these crimes? Sort of like the anthrax killer.

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:53 PM
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10. I'll do a search on it but I haven't heard of any arrests either
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:36 PM
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19. Did a search the answer is No
That is strange in and of itself.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:39 PM
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20. I've been following these stories since the anthrax attacks
One especially stood out to me because it happened about a block from where I used to work in Miami. There is never anything more in the M$M other then the original incident. Seems no one wants to touch this stuff?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:52 PM
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26. Found some follow up on this case
43, By Eyewitness News' Jim Dolan

(Totowa, N.J. -WABC, Feb. 15, 2005) — There's a stunning development then death of Geetha Angara, a 43-year-old chemist whose body was found in a huge tank at a water treatment plant where she worked. What first looked like an accident now appears to be a planned murder carried out, say authorities with precision.


http://home.comcast.net/~typezero/50.htm
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:15 PM
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6. Maybe they are going to hit us with some type of flu.
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 05:16 PM by dave502d
If they get rid of these scientists,who will fine a cure
for us before lots of people die.last month Bill
Clinton was reading a book about pass influenza epidemic.

http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=91
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:56 PM
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12. Yes Clinton has been hanging out with bush senior a lot also
Keep your friends close

and your enemies even closer.
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:02 PM
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23. The Flu! More like one of these...
The South African media has been abuzz with details of that nation's former biological warfare program and its links to the CIA...

The lab maintained links to the US biowarfare facility at Fort Detrick and Britain's Porton Down Laboratory. The head of the South African program, Dr. Wouter Basson, was reportedly offered a job with the CIA in the United States after the fall of the apartheid regime. According to former South African National Intelligence Agency deputy director Michael Kennedy, when Basson refused the offer, the CIA allegedly threatened to kill him. Nevertheless, the U.S. pressured the new President Nelson Mandela to turn over the records and fruits of Basson's work. Much of this work was reportedly transported to Fort Detrick...

South African bio-chemical weapons allegedly transferred to the CIA included, in addition to anthrax, cholera, smallpox, salmonella, botulinum, tularemia, thallium, E.coli, racin, organophosphates, necrotising fasciitis, hepatitis A, HIV, paratyphoid, Sarin VX nerve gas, Ebola, Marburg, Rift Valley hemorrhagic fever viruses, Dengue fever, West Nile virus, highly potent CR tear gas, hallucinogens Ecstasy, Mandrax, BZ, and cocaine, anti-coagulant drugs, the deadly lethal injection drugs Scoline and Tubarine, and cyanide.


More: http://www.rense.com/general22/un.htm
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:41 PM
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25. THE MURDER OF DAVID KELLY
In 1984 Dr. Kelly was invited by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) to take the position of chief microbiologist at its secret facility at Porton Down. Kelly had been working in the NERC Institute of Virology in Oxford. He brought a number of scientists with him from there to Porton Down.

At the Hutton inquiry, Brian Jones testified as to Kelly's involvement, with the highest security clearance, in analyzing top-secret information regarding biological weapons of the U.K. and other governments. Jones was director of a department on the Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS). That involvement, beginning in 1987, presumably continued until his death and through his several other jobs as weapons "inspector" in Russia and (for UNSCOM) in Iraq.

It was before and during Kelly's tenure at Porton Down that it became involved with South Africa's bioweapon program named Project Coast. A cardiologist named Wouter Basson who was the personal physician of South African Prime Minister Botha headed the project.

http://64.239.13.64/free/ww3/111203_kelly_2.html
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:53 PM
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9. Related topic: Cheney, Rumsfeld inv'd in cover up of scientists murder
The snuffing of scientists by the CIA/U.S. government dates way back. This one--in 1953--involved a well-documented cover-up by Cheney and Rumsfeld.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1148

snip

Secret documents have revealed that Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld are "linked to the murder" of a former senior CIA scientist.

In 1953 Frank Olson, who was a key member of the CIA's secret brainwashing programme MK-ULTRA, was sent plunging from a New York hotel window.


snip


Over the years Eric Olson turned up many clues, real or coincidental. There was, for example, the assassination manual that the CIA declassified in connection with its Guatemala activities. The manual, created in the early 1950s, identified "the contrived accident'' as "the most effective technique'' of secret assassination.

"The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface,'' the manual stated. "It was exactly what happened to my father," said Eric Olson.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:55 PM
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11. Conservatives shouldn't be surprised...These people have been in all thing
They've been in on everything you can pretty much name.

Oh yeah, lets get Tom DeLay to throw himself out and resign.

http://houseofscandal.org
http://www.moveon.org

Support picketing his but out of office and having him prosecuted before his trials are even over.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:05 PM
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16. Caught that in one of Octafish's Excellent Bush Family Evil Empire threads
Know your BFEE: Pat Robertson Incoporated a Gold Mine with a Terrorist
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nikraye Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:47 PM
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21. CIA's Assassination Manual
This doc was referenced in my earlier post (Cheney, Rumsfeld inv'ment in cover up of Frank Olson's murder). It's very interesting reading...

http://www.theiraqmonitor.org/article/view/25685.html

snip:

In lost assassination, the assassin must be a fanatic of some sort. Politics, religion, and revenge are about the only feasible motives.

Gee, why does 9-11 come to mind?

snip:

2. 2. Accidents - For secret assassination, either simple or chase, the contrived accident is the most effective technique. When successfully executed, it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated.

The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface. Elevator shafts, stair wells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve. Bridge falls into water are not reliable.


Let's see...Olson was dumped from a 13-story building; Wiley was dumped over a bridge into a swiftly flowing river. Sounds perfectly "textbook", don't they?

snip:

But this one is my favorite: ('bold' emphasis, mine)
Assassination of persons responsible for atrocities or reprisals may be regarded as just punishment. Killing a political leader whose burgeoning career is a clear and present danger to the cause of freedom may be held necessary.

Hmmmm...who comes to mind? Who, who?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:08 PM
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24. Thanks, yes this is text book IMO
The Worlds leading Microbiologists are suffering an epidemic of

Fatal "accidents" & "suicides" not to mention being shot, stabbed,
and bludgeoned to death.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=+death+of+microbiologists&btnG=Search&meta=
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:59 PM
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13. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Merlin Project
and its "predictions". From Minstrel Boy's blog:

In 2008-2009, something even more profoundly changing will happen that will affect about 4 out of 6 people. Something like a pandemic.

I'm not convinced of the prophetic prowess of the "Merlin Project," but I do think it prudent, given the times, to pay attention to the work of a pair of right wing futurists who have been retained by the Pentagon and Perle, one of whom is an SDI researcher, and who are frequently awarded public forums on conservative corporate media. Rather than gleaning prophecy, it may help us to know what they are preparing for us.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/01/things-to-come-merlin-project.html
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:24 PM
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18. Thanks I'll read up on that. This much is for certain
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 06:27 PM by LibertyorDeath
The Worlds leading Microbiologists & world-acclaimed scientific researchers specializing in infectious diseases and biological agents such as Anthrax are being Murdered or dieing in "accidents"
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:03 PM
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14. One of the most dangerous professions on the planet. n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:54 PM
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22. No doubt
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 07:54 PM by LibertyorDeath
Do not fly in small planes with world-acclaimed scientific researchers specializing in infectious diseases and biological agents

or go for a quiet walk in the woods

or for a drive in their car

or spend a quiet evening at their home

do not accompany them to their place of employment

or spend time with them in the trunk of their car

January 7, 2005: Jeong H. Im, 72
--Expertise: A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Primarily a protein chemist.
--Circumstance of Death: He was stabbed several times and his body was found in the trunk of his burning white, 1995 Honda inside the Maryland Avenue parking garage.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:09 PM
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27. Dr.Leland Rickman expert on infectious diseases




June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman, a UC San Diego expert on infectious diseases and, since Sept. 11, 2001

a consultant on bioterrorism. He was 47. Rickman died while on a teaching assignment in Lesotho, a small

country bordered on all sides by South Africa. He had complained of a headache, but the cause of death was

not immediately known. The physician had been working in Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews, directorof the

UC San Diego Medical Center's Owen Clinic, teaching African medical personnel about the prevention and

treatment of AIDS.Rickman, the incoming president of the Infectious Disease Assn. of California, was a

multidisciplinary professor and practitioner with expertise ininfectious diseases, internal medicine,

epidemiology, microbiology and antibiotic utilization.

biology and antibiotic utilization.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:39 PM
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28. These 2 links in my op aren't working.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:43 PM
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29. Link to Flu 'Oddities' (lots of Bush bioterror incongruities)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:23 AM
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30. Thanks Lori !
You do great work!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:28 AM
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31. It's dead scientist #78
FLU 'ODDITIES' BREAKING NEWS

Oops! It's dead scientist #78... Russian Investigators Probe Biological Weapons Link to Hepatitis Outbreak 9 Jun 2005 An investigation is checking whether the mass outbreak of hepatitis A in the Tver region near Moscow could be linked to the biological weapons sector. At the moment 363 people are in hospital, NewsRu.Com reported Thursday. Some newspapers have linked the outbreak to the recent murder of Russia’s leading specialist in bio weapons. Some sources link Wednesday's murder of Anti-Microbe Therapy Institute director Leonid Strachunsky, who specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons, to the hepatitis outbreak, NewsRu.Com added.

much more http://www.legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html
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