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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:01 PM
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Man dies in police custody
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 08:03 PM by Robb
Man dies in police custody

TUCSON - An autopsy on a man who died while in police custody was inconclusive, meaning authorities will have to await toxicology reports.

Robert Chandler, 41, was driving erratically when police pulled him over on Friday. He became combative and hit the officer in the head.

The officer then used pepper spray on Chandler, but it didn't successfully stop him. Another officer and a passer-by helped restrain Chandler.

(snip)

A preliminary autopsy on Monday couldn't determine a cause of death. A toxicology report will take four to eight weeks, said Sgt. Carlos Valdez, a spokesman for the Tucson Police Department.



(On edit: A little more information here.)
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:04 PM
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1. What a curious statistical anomoly, the number of people who die
in police custody.

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:06 PM
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2. Yes
Clearly we should ban pepper spray.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:10 PM
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3. I doubt that it was the pepper spray....
It could have been methods employed in restraining him. There's very little information here, but my feelings are that he didn't die of natural causes.

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:58 PM
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9. Yeah, that's the case.
Dodge and weave if you must. I just want to know why tasers and nothing else, day in and day out.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:43 PM
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15. There's other stuff. do a search.
It's an item of interest with me. I feel that they are being over used and have been misrepresented as being non lethal.

They do, on occassion, cause death.

That is not "non lethal."



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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:41 PM
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11. Water will not conduct the Taser ......
It is safe in water......SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:41 PM
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14. That's from the Taser Int'l website. I guess they put that up for fun?
Go sit in a tub, place a taser over your heart and give yourself 5-6 five second zaqps and call me in the morning.

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:22 PM
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16. No, it has been my visual experience.
I don't think I've ever visited the site you mentioned. I don't need too.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:51 PM
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18. It's the PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE FUCKING TASER!!!
Kerik's people... You know... This guy:

Taser International. It's in the legal and medical PDF's

These are Bush buddies and Bush-type instant judgement instruments to circumvent brutality charges.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:19 PM
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:32 PM
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7. 187, 50?
Homicide, under the influence of drugs? :shrug:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:54 PM
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8. Ric McNevin = Lyndie England
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:43 PM
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12. Maybe he
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 11:55 PM by liberalnurse
ate a toxic burrito?????? He ate it, then puked and died from his vomit.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:28 PM
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10. Driving erratically, became combative -
- hit the officer in the head.

He could have been diabetic as they act that way when their sugar is dangerously low.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:49 PM
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13. could have been suffering from a stroke
Lewy Body Dementia
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:24 PM
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17. So, he was still irrationally
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 08:25 PM by liberalnurse
out of control. Officers are not orderlies. Maybe he was high on crack....Did he have rotten teeth?
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