Who's OUR DeepThroat on LIHOP/MIHOP? Sibel Edmonds

[elehhhhna]

And she's been gagged.

[Just Me]

1. This time, it will require a force greater than one.

I believe that force is growing in numbers and strength. Hopefully, we will soon witness a flood which washes away the bile in the White House and the Pentagon!!!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

18. Growing? Hell Yes!...

National Security Whistleblowers Coalition: Congress, Whistleblower Protection & Accountability

WASHINGTON -- April 27 -- What: An unprecedented group of national security whistleblowers have formed a united front as the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). They will collectively attend two bipartisan congressional meetings today to demand that Congress act to end government retaliation against those who expose national security blunders, that Congress hold hearings into the federal governmenta's actions against whistleblowers, and that Congress act to require individual accountability for retaliation against whistleblowers. The congressional meetings will be followed by a press conference featuring speakers from the NSWBC and guest speakers.


Speakers: Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist, FBI

Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI

John Vincent, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Russ Tice, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA

Jesselyn Radack, Former Counsel, DOJ




Guest Speakers: Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-MA)

Mark Zaid, attorney, Krieger Zaid LLC

Professor William Weaver, University of Texas

Danielle Brian, Director, Project on Government Oversight (POGO)

Tom Devine, Legal Director, Government Accountability Project (GAP)

Dan Ellsberg, Founder, Truth Telling Project

from Common Dreams http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0427-15.htm


Sibel is my Hero!

[Just Me]

22. Other forces of opposition growing in strength/numbers:

Former diplomats:

http://www.washington-report.org/letter_to_bush.html

Christian leaders who continue to expand in number:

http://www.cmep.org/letters/2002Sep12_BushReIraq.htm

Members of Congress:

www.rawstory.com/aexternal/conyers_iraq_letter_502 - 30k - Jun 6, 2005

Former intelligence and military:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050124fa_fact

Former JAG:

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3210law_v_rumsfeld.html

The foregoing is merely a sample of the oppositional forces which are growing in number and strength. United, they will succeed in creating a flood which washes away the bile in the White House and the Pentagon!!!

[AuntiBush]

29. Here's hoping for that "WAVE" to hit shore, real soon! Please!

Blessed be the "peacekeepers!"

I'll buy their books. Give them my first-born. You name it.
Just come on out and "do it" for the World!

Sibel is my hero, too!

[Just Me]

30. For the sake of ALL our children.

Let the war to save America begin now.

[acmejack]

2. Very effectively silenced.

So many people have no idea who she is! This is unbelievable.

[G_j]

3. it is disturbing

it would have been nice also if 60 Minutes showed her interview. Doesn't look like that is ever going to happen,

[Pacifist Patriot]

27. That would be me.

I confess I am so overwhelmed I have not had the opportunity to follow the LIHOP/MIHOP information though I am familiar with what the acronyms mean and can see why people would arrive at those conclusions.

Who is she?

[H2O Man]

4. She needs to speak out.

I think that she needs to speak out publicly.

[elehhhhna]

5. If a whistle is blown in an empty forest, does it make a sound?

[H2O Man]

7. I'm speaking of what

I think is her responsibility. If the truth needs to be uttered, then the person is responsible to speak it. Attempting to predict what would occure after she spoke out is another subject, though it is obviously related.

Forests are never "empty."

[elehhhhna]

10. She held a press conference DURING a break at the 911 Ommission

hearings and NOBODY in MSM reported on it. That's one problem.

[H2O Man]

12. "she's been gagged.."

The point that I am making is that she needs to remove the gag, and say exactly what she knows. To quote Gandhi, "When it is relevant, truth has to be uttered, however unpleasant it may be." What happened at a press conference where she did not reveal all that she knows is not relevant.

[AuntiBush]

36. Yes, and the "truth will set her and US... FREE!"

[CTyankee]

6. LIHOP/MIHOP?

Help! I can't figure out what these acronyms stand for.

[CottonBear]

8. RE: 9-11: Let it happen on purpose / Made it happen on purpose

These are terms used to explain two different theories of how/why 9-11 occurred.

edit: There have been extensive discussions regarding these theories here on DU and on other progressive forums. If you search the archives using these terms, you will find many posts on the topic.

[CTyankee]

13. thanks cottonbear

That clears up a lot. I'm searching the archives more now. It's very helpful but very time consuming!

[seemslikeadream]

14. You don't need to search the archives

go here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125

[CottonBear]

24. You're welcome.

I had to ask lots of questions about abbreviations and acronyms when I was DU newbie. Never having posted on the internet before, I was clueless as to the meaning of n/t and eom among many others!
:)

[cthrumatrix]

9. the question is ...."who benefits" by her being silent and why?

[elehhhhna]

11. THE * Administration, and their creepy friends, that's who.

She's aready said that if she's allowed to testify, "certain elected officials " will go to prison.

[Al-CIAda]

15. Yes sir, and she has recently suggested that she may name names.

I say go public! Call the criminals, murderers, and conspirators out!

[Just Me]

16. She justifiably fears for her life.

Publication of names will put her in great danger unless she is one voice of many standing together with a network of support and protection. We should avoid underestimating the precariousness of her situation.

[cthrumatrix]

21. I believe that "one day" this shit will come out ...."big time"

[Zan_of_Texas]

33. Her sister, who lives in another country, was threatened.

It's easy for us to say, "SPEAK OUT."

For a whistleblower, even one who is willing to risk their life, they may hesitate to risk the lives of others.

[wiggs]

17. There are officials, politicians, and former congressmen who know too

People like Grassley know her information. At first, he was championing her story, saying she was credible. Not so much now.

When this information comes to light (money laundering, drugs, corporate and foreign involvement) who will we look at at wonder why they didn't say anthing, gag order or not?

[JohnyCanuck]

19. intelligence intercepts tied 911 drug money to U.S. election campaigns

Campaign coffers profit from 911, coke and courts

FBI linguist won’t deny intelligence intercepts tied 911 drug money to U.S. election campaigns

by Tom Flocco


Washington -- April 25, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- Former FBI contract translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and her attorneys were ordered removed from the E. Barrett Prettyman U.S. Courthouse so that a three-judge U.S. Court of Appeals panel could discuss her case in private with Bush administration lawyers.

Sibel Edmonds was fired for reporting information she uncovered in the FBI's translation unit In an exclusive interview on Saturday, we asked Edmonds if she would deny that laundered drug money linked to the 911 attacks found its way into recent House, Senate and Presidential campaign war-chests, according to what she heard in intelligence intercepts she was asked to translate.

"I will not deny that statement; but I cannot comment further on it," she told TomFlocco.com, in a non-denial denial.

<snip>

Criminal evidence in Edmonds’ explosive case is apparently getting too close to Washington officials, since the former contract linguist also told us she would not deny that "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally," revealing the content of the FBI intercepts she heard indicates that recognizable, very high-profile American citizens are linked to the 911 attacks.

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=109

Here is the link to Sibel Edmond's own web site www.justacitizen.org

Edited to add (from justacitizen.org):

"We fear that the designation of information as classified in some cases (brought forth by Sibel Edmonds) serves to protect the executive branch against embarrassing revelations and full accountability... Releasing declassified versions of these reports, or at least portions or summaries, would serve the public’s interest, increase transparency, promote effectiveness and efficiency at the FBI, and facilitate Congressional oversight." U.S. Senators Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Charles Grassley (R-IA) in a Letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft.

[bobthedrummer]

20. Our own DU archives are priceless for facts supporting LIHOP/MIHOP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1229712

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=318604#top

There are other sources, of course.

September 11th And The Bush Administration
Compelling Evidence for Complicity by Walter E. Davis, PhD
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4582.htm

The Role of Pakistan's Military Intelligence (ISI) in the September 11 Attacks by Michel Chossudovsky
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO111A.html

The Memory Hole 9/11 Page
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/


Paul Thompson
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline2pg

[cthrumatrix]

25. sned them to the media

[DeepModem Mom]

23. kick

[tinrobot]

26. It's not her...

She's small potatoes, even though her heart is in the right place.

Don't forget, Watergate's Deep Throat was very highly placed, knew everything, and was, most importantly, covert.

We'll get our Deep Throat, but we won't know it until long after the Bushies are in jail.

[Just Me]

28. Both overt and covert at work.

Hopefully, this will work more quickly than before 'cause the danger posed by the cabal in charge is great.

[H2O Man]

32. We'll never really know

if she is more than "small potatoes" as long as she remains silent. The truth is that she can not be a "Deep Throat" if she chooses to keep quiet.

[bobthedrummer]

31. Kick.

:dem::kick:

[Just Me]

34. Perhaps, together, we are surpassing the influence of a "Deep Throat".

Just a thought.

[JohnyCanuck]

35. It is sort of ironic how the coincidence theorists

claim that if there really were conspiracies of the scale necessary to cover up government foreknowledge or complicity in the 911 attacks that they could never keep it under cover because there would be whistle blowers come forward and spill their guts and it would be too big to keep out of the media.

Well Sibel Edmond's case shows what happens when a whistle blower does come forward to spill the beans on criminal behavior by government officials connected to 911. She gets slapped with a gag order and the gutless, corporate ho media studiously ignores her and leaves her dangling in the wind.