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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:13 PM
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Women in men's clothes is an evil
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 04:14 PM by RC
OK Ladies, yer all goin ta hell!

The following is a LTTE in our local Fargo Forum. How much you want to bet he still thinks Saddam personally flew both planes into the twin towers and Bu$h's plan for S/S is the best thing for the common man since shirt pockets. Oh, and dinos were in the Garden of Eden along with Adam & Eve.

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Rev. Dennis Anundson letter: Women in men's clothes is an evil
The Forum - 06/02/2005


There is one evil so prevalent that few, if any, preachers have mentioned, and that is: women dressed in men's apparel. It is an evil that is evident in women of all ages, shapes and sizes. Very seldom do you see a woman or a girl wearing a dress.

The word of God says in Deuteronomy 22:5, "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment. For all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God."

Being an abomination to God carries the penalty of eternal hell fire. For we read in Revelation 21:8, "But the fearful and unbelieving and the abominal and murderers and whoremongers and sorcerers and idolators and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone."

Now I think all women should be told this, so they can give up this abominable practice so they will not lose their souls over it.

Rev. Dennis Anundson

Hannaford, N.D.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:14 PM
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1. wonder how he feels about men in kilts
:shrug:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:18 PM
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4. I was thinking about setting him down
on a beach along the Mediterranean somewhere. I think that would be fun to watch. :evilgrin:
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:21 PM
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11. Well they used to call them "Hell Ladies" nt
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ballcap1776 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:15 PM
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2. oh my
Guess I'm burning, 'cause I do like my Blue Cult jeans!

sheesh
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:16 PM
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3. Does he have Battlements on the Church?
IIRC Deuteronomy also requires that we all have battlements on our roofs as well. And a whole host of additional items.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:18 PM
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5. So, is this jerk hung up on The Handmaid's Tale or The Story of O?
And does he wear any special garments while conducting services... anything even vaguely suggesting a dress?
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:19 PM
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6. I love it
it's one of the many things to use....

Homosexuality is an abomination to god.

Yeah, well lady you're wearing pants, that's also an abomination.

I wonder how far the religious right would get if they actually preached and forced people to actually obey all the rules in leviticus and deuteronomy.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:19 PM
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7. Once, me and the missus accidentally wore each other's sweat shirts...
...so are we BOTH in trouble? Just askin'.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:20 PM
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8. Oh fer krissakes ...... these dickwads are so far over the top
there's no hope for them.

Deuterelations and Revelonomy ...... whatever ......
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:20 PM
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9. DOesn't he know what MEN wore when that was written? Caftans. LOL.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:20 PM
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10. Uh, yeah.
I'm on my way to my closet as we speak...

If there was such a thing as hell, I would be going there for sins that were much more fun and exciting than just wearing pants.
Give me some credit...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:22 PM
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12. I know several fundies who don't wear pants
The Governor of California agrees wholeheartedly.

"I hate pants. This is something I have inherited from my father. He despised pants, and my mother was never allowed to wear them at home. We're talking about a different time period now, when the man was much more the ruler of the house. But I still feel that way, and neither my mother nor Maria is allowed to go out with me in pants." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:34 PM
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22. "...neither my mother nor Maria is allowed..."
ALLOWED?? :wtf:

Pardon me while I go check the calendar................

Yup...it's still 2005, not 1905. Whew.

Allowed. :eyes:
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:22 PM
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13. Guess he never saw a woman in a business suit
Very nice. :)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:22 PM
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14. Why stop there?
If that passage from Deuteronomy is valid, why not all the prohibitions in Leviticus, too?

Here's a short annotated list I found:

- Never eat shrimp, pork, or any number of other animals (Leviticus 11)

- Never have sex with a woman who is having her period (Leviticus 18:19).

- Never steal (Leviticus 19:11)

- Never work one day and get paid on another (Leviticus 19:13)

- Never plant two kinds of seed in the same field (Leviticus 19:19)

- Never wear clothes made with two kinds of cloth (Leviticus 19:19)

- Never eat meat cooked rare to medium-well (Leviticus 19:26)

- Never shave your sideburns or trim your beard (Leviticus 19:27)

- Never get a tattoo (Leviticus 19:28)

- Always worship and never work on Saturday (Leviticus 19:30)

- Always stand when someone older than you enters a room (Leviticus 19:32)

The good news is, perhaps, that you will be able to have more than one wife -- as long as you second wife is not a current wife�s sister (Leviticus 18:18).



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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:26 PM
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15. im gonna be burried in my 501's
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:28 PM
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16. Let's visit his church in micro minis. Signs read "Happy NOW?"
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 04:28 PM by elehhhhna
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:28 PM
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17. I wonder
how many cotton/polyester blend clothes he owns?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:29 PM
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18. Dear Rev. Anundson
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 04:30 PM by lwfern
Thank you for your informative letter. I would like to know if culottes are okay to wear, or if those are also an abomination to God. The reason I'm asking is because they look like a skirt, but they do have that strip of fabric between the legs, and I'm wondering if it's the suggestion of having something between my legs that makes it unacceptable.

Also, I understand what you are saying about some things being an evil that is evident in women of all ages, shapes and sizes. I don't know about age, but I do think culottes are unflattering to all shapes, so I think "abomination" might be an appropriate term.

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this important issue.

Sincerely,

L. W. Fern
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:35 PM
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23. The church i was brought up in fought bitterly over culottes
they also didn't think women should where pants etc.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:29 PM
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19. He's just finding his "original angle" or "niche" if you will...
He's invoking the standards, the sermon that kept women in dresses until the 20s.

It's actually sort of refreshing to see an old school bully pulpit zealot slinging hell fire rather than the same cookie cutter evangelical with an over aged christian rock band to his right and the light up "rapture-o-meter" counting down to his left.

BTW- you're going to burn in hell for posting this. I'm an atheist so see ya there I guess.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:30 PM
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20. Alrighty then, I expect to see him in a KILT
Show us yer knees Rev Dennis!
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:33 PM
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21. i am almost 65 years old...
and normally i just dont give a flying fuck about these loonies....but this one just gave me a good chuckly...always wanted to be seen as a ho...and since i wear pants...or less..usually a bathing suit...i think i have finially made it...what a good day this is for me.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:42 PM
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24. congrats, mexicopat!
:toast: to hos :rofl: i haven't worn a dress since...since i can't even remember the last time.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:54 PM
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29. I am 56
I racked my brain but I really cannot remember my MOTHER cleaning toilet bowls in a dress, high heels, and pearls. She wore my Dad's work pants (he was very skinny). Oh, the HORROR of it all. I think the last time I wore a dress was to a wedding - 10 years ago.

Jeans, jeans, jeans. I am still a size 3 and will continue to wear my jeans, thank you, very much.

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:44 PM
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25. Well!..I'll tell you ..NO WAY am I throwing all this Make-Up away.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:49 PM
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26. Betcha a Bass ale
that the darling Rev. wrote this little missive wearing a lacy black teddie and dreaming of someone like Jeff G. to come and discipline him because he was a bad boy. Why does it seem that all the crapslingers like this guy have some kind of severe phsyco-sexual power-shifting problem and run to the Babble to justify it? It's all about male domination over women and using the fear of God to enforce it. Makes me puke.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 06:22 PM
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36. LMAO
:rofl: :rofl: hands down one the funniest (and smartest) posts today :rofl: :rofl:

:hi: thanks for the laugh, Ikonoklast
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:51 PM
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27. The lake of fire? SHIT!
Say it ain't so, Rev! :cry:

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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:52 PM
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28. Pants are more practical and modest because...
Less revealing: example, a skirt rising while bending over to pick something up is no longer a problem.

Not a lot of excess material to get caught in doors and tear on sharp objects.


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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:07 PM
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30. "lose their souls over it."
that is an awfully small thing to lose your soul over, gosh. :silly:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:10 PM
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31. He's obviously calling for full-frontal nudity. Bless the man.
It's a round-about way of getting it, but there he goes.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:14 PM
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32. OK, dammit that's it, Rev. Give me back my sanitary napkins!
I know a male who is in theater and he uses the small panty liners to soak up sweat when he's wearing prosthetics. Especially at places like the Renaissance Faire. Panty liners are wonderful for keeping sweat out of your eyes when wearing plate mail helmets.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:16 PM
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33. I love reading spiels from Radical Christian Clerics
They remind me of who the real enemy of our country is...fundamentalist whack jobs from both faiths.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:20 PM
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34. Draggin' this 'ol thing out again...
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 05:32 PM by Lady Effingbroke
Dear Rev. Anundson,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1: 9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

from http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Edited to state that I, Lady Eff, do support GLBT people, unlike the "snopesed" letter which otherwise applies so well to this clown Rev. Anundson.

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:28 PM
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35. I know people that think like this
A woman I know, she's about 19, is not allowed, per her parents, to EVER wear pants, or tank tops, or tight shirts, etc. Only ankle-length skirts and long sleeved shirts for her, all year round.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:02 PM
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37. Personally, I don't even own a pair of pants
because I am one of those women who look dreadful in them, not for religious reasons based on some moldy old text that's been translated, edited, retranslated and expurgated to death. No matter what style, no matter what cut, no matter how carefully tailored, they just don't flatter my body. So I'm uncomfortable in pants and very aware that they draw attention to those aspects of my body that I would rather not draw attention to. Been wearing skirts and dresses exclusively for about ten years now, and have never been happier and more comfortable with the way I look. I do everything in dresses and skirts, including housecleaning, gardening, and even horseback riding with the help of a pair of leggings. But that's just me, and I would never decide that anyone else should do what I do. I wear what I want to wear, not what the Bible, fashion or my husband tells me to wear.

I think the same should apply to women who are comfortable in pants. Lots of women look great in them, and it's obvious since so many women choose to wear them that they're happy wearing them.

These dipwads who spend their time worrying about what other people wear and claiming that this and that is an abomination really need to go and do something useful. The ones who bitch about women wearing bifurcated garments are the worst of all. People are dying, people are starving, there are all kinds of abuse and neglect going on in the world, and they're throwing a fit because some women prefer to wear pants?

Time for a reality check.

Oh, I forgot - religion isn't much on reality.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:09 PM
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38. Nominated for Top Ten Conservative Idiots...
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:22 PM
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39. I think poor writing is an evil
"There is one evil so prevalent that few, if any, preachers have mentioned," --- that's terrible. It should read, "have mentioned IT."

The use of the colon after he says "that is: women dressed in men's apparel" is completely wrong - there should be no punctuation there at all.

And the last sentence has too many "so"s in it.

Appalling.

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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:31 PM
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40. LMAO!
I'm sorry, but I really can't even take this man seriously. He is simply too out there. What kind of church is he the reverend of anyway? I wouldn't wear dresses on special occasions if it was 20 below while I was living in ND! And in the summer, it is usually too windy ;)
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:31 PM
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41. Better burn all those prints of Katherine Hepburn's movies. You know...
the ones where she wears *PANTS*!! :sarcasm:
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:34 PM
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42. So liars are going to burn in Hell
let's raise money for an asbestos suit for GWB. He's going to need it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 07:37 PM
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43. So how about it, Red. Anundson?
Is this the kind of uniform you think people should have? After all, it's the same kind of uniform that enemy females wear:

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