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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:33 AM
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what percentage of americans do you think have absolutely no clue?
as to what's really going on in america?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:34 AM
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1. The 30-35% that constitute *'s base.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 08:34 AM by trotsky
He is literally the 2nd coming of Christ to those buffoons and no amount of evidence to the contrary will ever penetrate their skulls.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:35 AM
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2. 80 percent
at least
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:35 AM
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3. 80%
Hardly anyone really has a clue.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:36 AM
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40% have absolutely no clue;
another 35% have a clue, but have it wrong. The other 25% are the walking dead.
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DebinTx Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:36 AM
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4. At least half of the nation
have no clue or just really don't care beyond what affects them personally.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:37 AM
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8. Just don't care
That's it!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:36 AM
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5. 65%
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 08:37 AM by Vash the Stampede
But at least half of the 35% that have a clue are still evil assholes.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:36 AM
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6. 33.3% of adults 18+
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:37 AM
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7. 80% of any nationality has no clue about their government
Most humans are just trying to get through today, dammit. :)
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:10 AM
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30. can't agree
Now, it may depend on what happens to be going on at any given point, but it could hardly be said that 80% of the French or the British or the Dutch, or Canadians, have no such clue at the moment.

The ISP that hosts www.cpac.ca, the Canadian counterpart of the US's CSPAN, had to boost capacity this winter to cope with the huge numbers of people wanting to watch the sponsorship scandal inquiry hearings on line (during the day while at work and away from television):
http://www1.magma.ca/aboutmagma/pressreleases/2005-02-15.cfm

At present, the CPAC.ca web site has about 300 Mbps of capacity. CPAC's web site has become an important medium to reach the broadcaster's audience. Magma's capacity statistics for CPAC back up Ranger's belief, as CPAC.ca - notwithstanding the sponsorship inquiry - is currently seeing nearly ten times the traffic it did a year ago.
I can only guess at what the ratings for CPAC and CBC Newsworld were last month when the House was voting on a bill that, if defeated, would have caused the fall of the Liberal government and triggered an election. We were sure glued to the toob, but I think quite a few less-politicized people were too.

This has been a bit of an odd year for us, of course. A summer election that produced the bizarre result of an evenly split House, a minority government in jeopardy of collapsing at any moment, an enormous government spending scandal that turned into an all-out political corruption scandal, partisan political wheelings and dealings of all sorts, involving all parties. With a visit from Bush thrown in.

And the British had their election, and the French and Dutch their EU constitution referenda.

But even apart from those, I think it's a mistake to think that the residents of any country comparable to the US are a fraction as clueless about what their governments and governing personalities get up to as USAmericans are -- in times when they're getting up to at least as much as the rest of ours have been.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:37 AM
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9. 32.5% have no clue.
30.7% go along with junior because of their money market and business and out fear that if they speak up they may be living under a bridge real soon.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:38 AM
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12. 32.5? i'm no good at math.
but i'll take your word for it.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:38 AM
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10. I'm thinking 51%, you know the 51%ers who put ** back in office.
While some of these folks may have a clue, they still defend **'s policies so I shall continue to include them.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:45 AM
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17. That was going to be my answer too
but I think it needs a little adjusting.

The percentage of shrub votes that weren't actually shrub votes needs to be shaved off, and the morons who stayed home on election day because they think everything is fine (as well as those who stayed home because they thought their vote wouldn't matter) need to be added on.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:38 AM
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11. 80%+
We are a clueless society made up of a majority who prefer not to know what's going on. Ignorance is bliss.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:40 AM
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13. 30% do not have a clue,
they think it`s the democrats fault-30% don`t give a shit who`s in charge,40% actually can see the truth but feel they are powerless to stop what is happening
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:41 AM
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14. How many people watch Survivor, The Newlyweds, and Am. Idol?
Double it and that's my guess.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:43 AM
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15. Enough to make me nervous about the future
Seriously.Not just my own but theirs,too.There are alot of willing participants in this matrix.They are shuffling off to their own demise in an orderly fashion,drinking the koolaid,watching tv,doing as they're told without a care.It's truly frightening.And I feel sad and anxious about the whole thing.And powerless.DU gives me hope that people will wake up before the train hits.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:44 AM
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16. 60% ?
Maybe more. How many republicans and non voters are there? There are plenty of clueless dems too though.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:45 AM
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18. I'd guess 1/3 have NO clue, 1/3 have some clue, 1/3 have a pretty good,...
,...handle on what's happening.

One thing's for sure, most people would rather ignore the painful truth falsely hoping it will just go away than to confront the truth and work to improve life.
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Sewsojm Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:48 AM
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19. At least 70 per cent have no idea what's going on!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:55 AM
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20. Ya know, not having a clue doesn't bother me as much as
not giving a fuck. We have professionals pulling the wool and distracting the masses, so I can forgive those people. It's these motherfucking idiots who don't give a fat rat's ass, if a couple of million of these fuckers had got off their brains last November we'de be on the road to recovery now.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:57 AM
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21. Anyone who relies on the "Mainstream" American
Media as their source of "news" by definition doesn't have a clue. So the percentage is very high -- probably close to 90%. I have a friend who works for KCBS tv in Los Angeles. He's won a "local" emmy for his work on a news story. And he's one of the most clueless people I know.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:00 AM
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22. It is not that they don't have a clue but that they intentionally avert
their eyes and ears to what is really happening.To them,the events in Washington, Iraq and other places are so remote and so unconnected to their daily lives they don't matter.Especially because it concerns people who are different with stange religions and strange languages.If they are invaded or killed there must be a good reason for it.

So back to the next episode of Desperate Housewives.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:09 AM
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23. 50% of the American people don't even vote and
when you consider that about 1/2 of voters are brain dead Republicans you will come up with a 75% ratio of people who are clueless.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:36 AM
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24. A solid 45% of ameriKans are clueless.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 09:36 AM by leftchick
The clueless are the freeps, freaks and fundies who can't bother their pretty minds with FACTS!

With about 20% of ameriKans starting to think :wtf:

That leaves about 35% of Americans with a DUer's level of awareness.

Not very good percentages for a revolution or an end to war. :(
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:36 AM
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25. Tough question, because some people are in denial, others don't
understand the consequences of our situation, some people are just plain evil, and then there are the truly clueless.

IMO, it is time that we all recognize the moral vacuity of the conservative republican mind, and understand the ramifications of this moral vacuity in regard to our ability to control and maintain the democratic process in the US. In general, the conservative republican mind does not operate on an evolved, well thought out self-developed morality system. Instead, it depends on disciplinarian authority figures to decide what is morally right or wrong for it in the ethical sense. If, after creating a contrived national atmosphere of fear and hatred, disciplinarian authority figures tell conservative republicans that it is alright to, say, kill Jews, or Iraqis, then a very significant majority of them will believe that it is morally acceptable to kill Jews or Iraqis.

In the case of, say, the Nazis, it was only after Hitler was defeated that most conservatives in Germany began to say that their actions were "wrong". And the only reason they said that their actions were wrong is because they feared punishment, not because they genuinely felt that they did anything immoral. In the case of modern conservative republicans, they will maintain the belief that the destruction of democracy in America and the wholesale slaughter of the Iraqi people is completely acceptable as long as Bush and his fascist administration tell them it is good and right to do this. If Bush and the fascists are tried for war crimes sometime in the future, most conservative republicans will publicly denounce them, but will personally feel that they really did nothing wrong in supporting these monsters, because this is what they were told to believe and do.

Rather than explain this further, I will post part of an interview with Hitler's nurse. Notice that she does not state that she regrets her role in the Third Reich:

Guardian: You recently saw Downfall, the Oscar-nominated film about the bunker and Hitler's final days. What did you think of it?

Flegel: It was good. They got a few small details wrong but generally it was right. I even recognised myself as a nurse.

Guardian: Do you regret your role in the Third Reich? Or was this an exciting period for you?

Flegel: It's difficult when you have a society (the Nazis) and it's discussed afterwards by the left or the right. Often it's seen wrongly. Everyone has their own opinion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/secondworldwar/story/0,14058,1474705,00.html

Yes, everyone has their own opinion.

"Cluelessness" takes many forms.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:47 AM
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26. I think there are about 33% hardcore Bushbots and another 35%
that are just out of the loop.....leaving about 32% actively engaged and enraged.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:51 AM
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27. all of the 50% of the voters that don't vote and...
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 09:52 AM by kentuck
50 % of the voters that do vote.... average = 75%
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:55 AM
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28. Umm.. 48-50 - the percent who voted for this ass. nt
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:55 AM
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29. At least 80%
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:21 AM
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31. 80 percent is a good estimate.
Half don't vote/don't care. Of the other half, more than half are clueless.
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:00 AM
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32. Very few of the people I know
have a clue. Extrapolating that is just too scary.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:12 AM
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35. cluelessness as a way of life
it's the latest craze, ala paris hilton
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:08 AM
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33. I'd say the 80% figure is a pretty good one.
It MIGHT be lower, but no lower than about 70%.

Sad, but true.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:11 AM
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34. so many mopaul, so many
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:16 AM by seabeyond
weekend republican guest. he watches news, (fox) he still thinks he is being informed. he works in the high up of city of el paso. father a judge, they know what is up. back to school to get mba, so educated and in educational enviroment. he is interested.

he knew so little. got to point i would say, have you heard about downing street minutes, no....you arent informed. fda doctor. what religion is doing, going into war. election theft in texas and new mexico.

jim you are not informed.

he didnt know, he didnt know so much

he left here head spinning, lol.

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:14 AM
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36. 70-80% of Americans have no clue
Anyone who doubts this has never served on jury duty.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:17 AM
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37. 80% have no clue...but only .01% really know what's going on.
Sign me up for a tinfoil hat but there are so many things going on we don't even get a glimmer of...

How does it go? "There are more things on heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophies".
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