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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:42 PM
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Rumsfeld: Military has mistreated some grievously, blames media for focus
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WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld defended the military's handling of detained terror suspects Wednesday while acknowledging that some have been mistreated, "sometimes grievously."...

Rumsfeld said that likening the Guantanamo Bay prison to forced labor camps operated by the former Soviet Union, where millions perished in what became known as the gulag system, is inaccurate and "cannot be excused."

He accused the news media of focusing too much on prisoner abuse allegations and too little on "U.S. policy guidance to treat detainees humanely."...

"Yes, there have been instances where detainees have been mistreated while in U.S. custody, sometimes grievously, but consider these facts," Rumsfeld said Wednesday. "To date there have been approximately 370 criminal investigations into the charges of misconduct involving detainees" since Sept. 11, 2001. He did not mention it, but about 130 military personnel have been punished as a result of those investigations.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:47 PM
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1. These bastards take NO RESPONSIBILITY for anything!
It's sickening!:puke: Makes me want to hurl!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:06 PM
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9. Our culture is designed to avoid responsibility
Every single job description is laid out so that no single person is
actually responsible. Everyone must defer to someone else that although
everyone is complicit in the criminality, nobody is responsible.

It seems the very culture and its job-descriptions are the root
problem here... as it is a deep rot, from the military to the enrons,
from K-Street to Wall street... nobody is responsible. Why is that?
It seems deeply culturally systemic?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:48 PM
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2. Amazing, isn't it? Using this logic
Could I rob a bank and blame the cops for arresting me?
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:55 PM
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5. Or the news station that covers the crime...
...Or, the surveillance cameras that catch you on video.

It's not your fault!!!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:00 PM
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7. I mean, granted, I did something wrong
But the blame should lie with those who reported it, or the people who want to arrest me.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:49 PM
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3. punished................whe should know who what where
and the "punishment" awarded............
these acts were committed by people acting in OUR name
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:54 PM
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4. Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention
Rumsfailed admitted in public on TV that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Iraqi prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graihib but the prisoner was purposefully not listed at that location, also an illegal act. Rumsfeld also admitted to signing orders for tougher interogation methods which violated the Geneva Conventions.

Rumfailed has commited at least three violations of the Geneva Convention thereby also violations of The Constitution of the USA. Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfailed and Tenet have not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfailed and also proscecute Ex. CIA Tenet.


Does the US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:09 PM
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10. ugly ugly man
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:00 PM
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6. Rumsfeld's "I'm outraged that anyone would suggest" act is getting worn
He's been confronted too many times now & been shown up for the blowhard he is.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:03 PM
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8. There they go again ... disassembling shit .....
.... wutta buncha fuckwads ......
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:09 PM
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11. Sure, blame the media Rummy. Just ask the Catholic church...
how well that worked for them.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 05:12 PM
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12. Didn't Gen. Myers say only 100 of 68,000 detainees were abused, yet
370 criminal investigations and about 130 military personnel have been punished? What am I missing here?
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