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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:16 AM
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Is Mark Felt/Deep Throat a Hero or a Turncoat {MSNBC poll}
4318 votes

76% say hero

24% say turncoat



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/



Don't forget to e-mail them your thoughts :7
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:17 AM
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1. kick
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:17 AM
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2. I can guarantee that
the people voting for turncoat are Bush supporters.

I'd gladly call anybody in the Bush administration willing to leak stories to bring down the current regime as a hero.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:24 AM
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3. 76% Hero-same result on ABC News poll
http://www.abcnews.go.com/

see Related:Vote Hero?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:25 AM
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4. there was a time when people had a sense of right and wrong.
Felt was a man with a gifted sense of what was wrong and he did something about it... unlike today, when wrong doesn't even faze anyone with the power to do something about all the wrongness of the bush boy sociopathy and his sociopathic administration.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:27 AM
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5. i dont know that he is either
with his motive. i dont know that he didnt do this for self promotions. so that would take away hero. though i dont care why it was done. the information needed to come out. people had and today has the responsibility to speak out against illegal behavior by our elected officials
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:28 AM
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6. How about disaffected FBI player
He was next in line to take over the FBI after Hoover died. Then Nixon promoted someone else. He was mad, so he planned his payback.

It worked out well for us - but I don't think he was a turncoat or a hero.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:29 AM
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7. wonder what meme they are focusing on
hmmmm... don't get know funny ideas about the CHIMP :shrug:

peace
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:29 AM
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8. Actually he's both.
Think about it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:30 AM
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9. It is amazing the amount of people who think he is a traitor for
revealing the truth about Nixon's administration. Would these people rather the President continue with illegal activities? Those are not our values people. We like our Presidents to act within the law, just like the people have to. They are confusing a President with a King....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:38 AM
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12. Fox News poll-51% say "disgrace to the FBI"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:29 PM
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23. Sad, but what else do you expect of the freepers and neocons?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:32 AM
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10. He's neither.
I'm happy he helped bring down Nixon, but the guy did so for his own reasons, not out of love for his country. Felt was J.Edna Hoover's #2 and the likely successor to lead the FBI. But he didn't get the job. So he turned on Tricky Dick. Whatever the motives, the results were a good thing, but it doesn't make the guy a hero, in my book.

In either case he certainly is not a traitor. That would be Nixon and the criminals who surrounded him. Which would be the same criminals who are there now, and they're even more treasonous with each incarnation.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:34 AM
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11. Here's my letter to msnbc
Mark Felt is indeed a hero. We as a nation should never tolerate abuse of power from our elected officials or those who work for them. I find it frightening to hear the chorus of right wing voices who believe that loyalty to a President is more important than loyalty to our Constitution & our Nation. What is even more frightening is that the Bush administration is accumulating more power within the Executive Office than Nixon could have ever dreamt of, and has broken many more serious laws in the process.

The difference today is that although there have been a number of brave people willing to come forward from within the administration, there are no jounalists willing to expose the current corrupt administration.
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satireV Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:07 AM
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15. W. Mark Felt is much more complex than just Watergate
Felt was convicted in 1980 for illegally wiretapping friends of the Weather Underground in the late 70s. Ronald Reagan promptly pardoned him in 1981.

Does his being Deep Throat mitigate his usurpation of our civil liberties while being a cop?

I don't know the answer to that question.

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:17 AM
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17. I wasn't aware that THAT is what he was convicted of
That explains why Reagan pardoned him.

I don't think that most people know many details of Watergate or many of it's players. I believe that the poll serves to help fracture the republican party exposing the die-hard shills for what they are. One more thing that may sit in the back of people's minds as they consider what is happening in DC now, and the people who are speaking in defense of the * administration.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:39 AM
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13. I don't think it's that simple
To me, he's along the same lines of a mob informant. A dirty person who did what was ultimately the right thing for impure motives.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:41 AM
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14. its reminding the American people about Corruption by GOP

you know whats pissing off the GOP party with this coming out don't you?

It brings back fresh the corruption that the GOP party has caused in the past and is now causing........right back into the minds of the AMERICAN people just how low the Republican party can be....

and isn't Nixons' son-in-law trying to run against Clinton in NY?...........Oh memories.......anything NIXON will split the GOP party!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:09 AM
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16. The gop-bots are going nuts over this
...and that makes my heart feel good!!!

When I first heard the news last night I was like several others here that didn't believe that it was Felt. But as the night & coverage wore on I began to see that it could be him, and that judging by the reaction of the repubs this is VERY good news for us.

Oh yes, let them run every divisive candidate that they can pull from under a rock. Nixon's son-in-law? :rofl:

I'm taking every opportunity to assist the republican party in their implosion, and am loving every minute of it :popcorn:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:27 PM
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22. it's the MSG not the man
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:27 PM by bpilgrim
Mr. Felt

of course their (neoCONs) strat will be to TRY and focus on him and his actions and NOT the context or the main SUBJECT Nixon's CRIMES.

hopefully our 'leaders' will CAPITALIZE on this awesome OPPORTUNITY

peace
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:18 AM
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18. Is That A Wakeup Call For Them?
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:19 AM by ThomWV
You would think that if over 70% of the people indicated a favorable response to disclosure of Government wrongdoing by extension of having displayed a favorable opnion of those who have done it that they might improve their 'ratings' by exposing Government wrongdoing themselves, the networks that is.

If I ran a network, and particularly the news end of a network, I'd be paying a lot of attention.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:36 AM
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19. Here is the feedback I sent to their question
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:38 AM by Greylyn58
Seems the poll is still running about the same. It's amazing that 24% think he's a turncoat after everything that we know (and don't know) about the Nixon Administration.

After answering the poll, here is the feedback I sent.

When an administration runs unchecked and out of control it sometimes takes someone to step forward and say enough is enough. The people in power then as now are suppose to represent the people who elected them, but sometimes these self-same elected officials forget that. They become obsessed with their power and how much more they can grab. When that happens they are no longer serving the greater good of the people who put them there and need to be removed from their office.

Whether Mr. Felt is a hero or a turncoat will ultimately be decided by the historians, but I personally feel that he was right for providing the information he did--whatever his motivations for doing it. If it was to help himself or if it was for love of country, the end result would still be the same...a corrupt administration was ended.

If only we could find someone with that much courage now.


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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:42 AM
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20. Done. Hero 77% Turncoat 23% - 8350 responses.
Give that man a medal.
Let's hope somebody in BushCo and the MSM will have the backbone to bring down W.

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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:24 PM
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21. Kicked
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:34 PM
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24. voted. n/t
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:52 PM
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25. 76% Hero
11407 responses
Hero 76%
Turncoat 24%
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