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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:29 AM Original message |
AL salon charges black women $15 more than white women for hair care |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. It IS bullshit, but I could actually see it being an innocent idiocy. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes, I can kind of see that. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Do salons that specialize in black women's hair charge more |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I don't know either. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
38. not really |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. drycleaners also charge more for a "blouse" |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Believe it or not, there is a theoretically valid argument for that |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 05:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
99. And there is a valid argument for hair, too |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
48. Yes they do. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. One kind of hair? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. hey there |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Rinse, lather, rinse |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Simple solution? Charge by time+materials, not by service. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I've never worked in one either, but I don't think it's feasible. |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You really want to put that accounting burden |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Well, plenty of small companies already do time+materials. |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. still pretty silly... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. She's being charged more because she's black. |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No she is being charged more because her hair is harder to do! |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. How do they know her hair is harder to do before they actually do it? |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yes.... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So you think they asked her if she was Irish? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Deleted message |
mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. hey we can up and have a huge reaction |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Because hair is different does not mean that it is more difficult |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. really? how is it that you know what the texture of her hair is? |
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OKJackson (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I agree, this is ***NOT**** racism |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. stereotypical...you use the word, but you don't seem to grasp |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Do you run a salon? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. did you read the article? |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 05:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
101. Of course they don't run salons. They just think they know better anyway. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
68. Actually, a lot of Irish people have thick, frizzy curls as well... |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. have your relatives ever been charged more |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. nah...it's just ignorant because not all black women have the same hair |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 05:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. Well, if it takes more time to do, then it isn't bullshit then, is it? |
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mnmod (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. Im no expert |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. really? what is the difference? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. question tho..... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. no, not as far as i know |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You said she was black right? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. no...not as far as i know |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. So kinda like other Department Store Salons.... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. frankly...i would never, ever have my hair done in a dept. store |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. don't sleep on Department Stores and Regis and the like tho.... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. LMAO... |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. I can see it being innocent as well. Long-haired gals get charged more |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Men with pattern baldness get charged the same for haircuts as men with |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yeah, but it works out for you guys...you get your alterations free |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I never get alterations free! More injustice! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Tell that to the store I just bought a suit from |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. We do? Direct me to THAT store!! |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Not in Barnstable Village. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. I went once to have my long hair CUT off, and they wanted to charge more |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 04:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
97. Yeah |
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Mizmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. Women's hair cuts costs more than men's too |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Women's dry cleaning still costs more? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
53. nope.. blouses cost more than men's shirts. n/t |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
24. Not all black people have the same hair texture |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. thanks for stating the obvious |
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BlueStateGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. When my hair was longer paid more for a haircut. Anywhere from five |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. mens hair is cheaper to cut then womens |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. funny...the rush to excuse this practice |
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BlueStateGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Who is making excuses? If it takes longer to do someone's hair based on |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. ahem..."IF" is the operative word |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. Dillard's has a history of racial discrimination: |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. What would they charge this woman? |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Touche |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. Does this mean condasleeza had to pay $800 for her inaugural do? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
52. We had this discussion before here on DU, another salon. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. This is an ignorant question, but, what is a "set"? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. a wash and a set |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The 75% markup is what gets me. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. well, according to some |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. a set depends on the style... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. $15 worth of technique? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. it makes sense..... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. How much more would you charge for long hair? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. well my hair is pretty long....and |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. sets are not generally done on really kinky hair textures |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Yeah - you wouldn't do sets on natural hair |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. hey...are you a hairstlyist? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. nope..... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. one of the funniest books i've ever read was (mostly) about hair |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. i had locks once..... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. LOL...i don't know why some people like those "tails" |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. Charging more based on race is clearly discrimination |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
61. I used to work for a hair care distributor |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. We don't know what they charge anyone for coloring their hair. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. thanks for the info |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
73. I had it happen to me !!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. they charged you because of the length and texture of your hair |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
94. Thank you. That is exactly my point - |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. this suit is alleging racial discrimination |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
81. My hair may be difficult to manage at times but |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. they shouldn't charge at all to experiment |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
84. FACT AA womens hair to style is much more labor intensive |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. does this apply to every AA female in the entire world? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 04:29 AM Response to Reply #84 |
98. I'm White and my hair is very thick, coarse, and curly. |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
90. Ex-wife owned a Salon, Daughter is a Cosmetologist... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. i don't think your comment is racist |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 05:33 AM Response to Reply #90 |
102. I'll take your word on the difference in hair care |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
96. What a crock |
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