Bush's teacher on Ring of Fire now

[eleny]

AAR http://www.airamericaradio.com/

[Nite Owl]

1. Just tuning in

Is this the guy who said he planned to dismantel Social Security when he was in college?

[eleny]

2. Well, Bush's teacher said Bush thought Soc Sec was socialist

[Nite Owl]

3. Think that was the same guy

He was talking before the election but, gee, the media just wasn't interested.

[journalist3072]

4. Yes, he was....very interesting article at Salon.com last year

Below is a snippet of the article from Salon.com last year. Full article can be found at: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi


The dunce
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar.

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By Mary Jacoby

Sept. 16, 2004 | For 25 years, Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School, was content with his green-card status as a permanent legal resident of the United States. But Bush's ascension to the presidency in 2001 prompted the Japanese native to secure his American citizenship. The reason: to be able to speak out with the full authority of citizenship about why he believes Bush lacks the character and intellect to lead the world's oldest and most powerful democracy.

"I don't remember all the students in detail unless I'm prompted by something," Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect -- the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite."

The future president was one of 85 first-year MBA students in Tsurumi's macroeconomic policies and international business class in the fall of 1973 and spring of 1974. Tsurumi was a visiting associate professor at Harvard Business School from January 1972 to August 1976; today, he is a professor of international business at Baruch College in New York.

Trading as usual on his father's connections, Bush entered Harvard in 1973 for a two-year program. He'd just come off what George H.W. Bush had once called his eldest son's "nomadic years" -- partying, drifting from job to job, working on political campaigns in Florida and Alabama and, most famously, apparently not showing up for duty in the Alabama National Guard.

Harvard Business School's rigorous teaching methods, in which the professor interacts aggressively with students, and students are encouraged to challenge each other sharply, offered important insights into Bush, Tsurumi said. In observing students' in-class performances, "you develop pretty good ideas about what are their weaknesses and strengths in terms of thinking, analysis, their prejudices, their backgrounds and other things that students reveal," he said.

[Selatius]

8. What the hell is so wrong with socialism?

Not every form of socialism resembles the damn face of Stalin. It isn't anymore "evil" than the theoretical idea of a democracy. What counts is how it is implemented, not that it exists at all.

If people like Hugo Chavez or Eugene Debs are so fucking "evil," then I don't think I want to be "good" anymore.

[knowbody0]

12. amerikans have been programed

to fear socialism and communism

[Jacobin]

5. I heard him speak once before. I warn you.

I was not able to sleep for days after listening.

It is scary scary stuff.

I mean it.

Don't listen to this if your nerves are frayed much.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. How so?

I'll have to listen to the archive from AAR Place.

[Jacobin]

10. Because it shows that Bush* is not just silly, and delusional and

worthless and amoral and lazy and dangerous.

He's been that way from the very beginning.

He is an absolutely irredeemable sack of shit with NO curiousity, NO idea of what is going....someone who simply parrots things that people say.

He has NO thought processes.

And he pretends to be POS.

It just put it all in stark relief for me, that this ghastly sack of shit pretends to be POS

[journalist3072]

7. He's really deep....

I have never heard him speak, but I was just totally blown away by that interview he did with Salon.com last year. It was amazing.

He just put all of Bush's business out there, as far as his neo-con, almost racist beliefs.

He said that during the Energy Crisis, the class got into a debate about whether the government had an obligation to help low-income people with their home heating bills, and Bush said no, because "poor people are lazy people."

He said Bush dismissed the civil rights movement as "socialism."

And, he said Bush would out-right deny having said something that he just said a few minutes earlier!!

[TimeChaser]

9. Rebroadcast?

It'll be on again tomorrow as the site says, right?

[Cleita]

11. I heard the interview.

He called Bush a pathological liar who didn't change after he got his MBA, but brought it to his administration and presidency and he added the big religious lie to it all.