A friendly reminder from the Police for this weekend.

[SouthernDem2004]

Alot of people will be celebrating with family and friends this weekend. Some of you will be partaking in intoxicating beverages.


My message is for those that drink... DO NOT DRIVE. If you want to kill yourself go buy a gun. Do not put other peoples lives in danger with your carelessness. Sure, most of the time you make it home ok. You never think its going to be you that gets into an accident. Ever planned on being in an accident? Didn't think so. DO NOT DRIVE. A DUI is not something you want. If you kill or seriously injure someone you will go to prison, not jail.

We will be watching this weekend. In my Department alone there are 75 of us tasked with DUI enforcement this extended weekend. Last year I made 7 DUI arrests in a 2 day period. Want to see how much a DUI arrest effects your life?

Why are we hard on DUIs? Because we have to witness the aftermath. Peoples dead loved ones, dead children and senseless injury. I am tired of dealing with death. It could be my family you run into.

DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE AND WEAR A SEATBELT! WE WILL BE WATCHING!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Question

I don't know where you are located, but I live in a dry county surrounded by dry counties. Do police find the incidents of DUI greater in these areas, as people go to the first liquor store that they can find and then start imbibing before they get home? I don't drink, and have often cringed when I get near drivers that are obviously impaired, for I've read that in an accident involving a drunk and a sober person, the drunk is more likely to survive.

[SouthernDem2004]

5. Sure..

There are alot of target rich environments. Its alot like bars with closing times. All you have to do is wait down the road and watch for the vehicle that comes past driving in both lanes.


It does seem that drunks survive more. I have no idea what the actual stats are but from experience the drunk usually walks away while the person they hit is injured. No idea why.

[Ready4Change]

19. It's usually the drunk hitting the other person.

Cars are designed to protect most against a front end accident. Bumpers, airbags, seat belts, and longer crush spaces all serve to protect a cars occupants when the car rams straight into something.

However, when car A (driven by a drunk) rams the side of car B (driven by sober driver) car B is in trouble. There's car less crush space on the side of cars, side airbags are only recent introductions, bodies can slide sideways our of seatbelts, etc...

So, since drunk drivers are typically the ones who ram into other cars, the drunks tend to take less damage.

[sweetheart]

38. It might be more like physics than that

If you have 2 glass bottles of equal makeup, one in the bottom of a
trash can, and the other in your hand, and you drop bottle "A" on to
bottle "B" in the bottom, the bottle in the bottom will break. I've
noticed this from experience, but can't explain the physics of it...
it seems that the object with the momentum has a better chance of
surviving an impact?

[manic expression]

139. Here are some possible answers...

The glass in the bottom is subjected to impact from both the falling glass and the bottom of the can. So the bottom glass is hit by two forces, rather than just one.

Also, I believe that the bottoms of glasses are usually thicker than the tops of glasses.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

21. Thanks for your reply

One of the main reason I'm against "dry counties" is that they seem to increase the number of vehicular accidents. If bars and liquor stores are allowed to operate in all counties, it is less likely that a patron will feel the need to open the sixpack before he gets home. Another thing is that liquor prohibition encourages bootlegging and disrespect for the law-after all, the local bootlegger doesn't card someone to make sure they are of legal drinking age, and really has no incentive to do so, whereas a legitimate business does.

Hope that you are able to remain safe as you take to the highways this weekend. Sadly, many troopers have been killed or injured in the line of duty, protecting the rest of us from drunk drivers.

[kliljedahl]

96. It's easy

They're relaxed & their reflexes are slow. Sober drivers react more quickly & tense up.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Zodiak]

2. Friendly reminder?

Friendly reminders do not have "we are watching" attached to them. I am not for drinking and driving, but I am also not for a police state where the cops feel that they can threaten people and call themselves "friendly" in the same breath. Keep your threats to yourself and do your job.

[streblin]

4. hmmmmm

everyone "watches" everyone, i think you make a good point rather harsh on the reply tho (raging?)...

i applaud the message and it's intent...

there's nothin' good about a drunk driver, if they didn't exist we wouldn't have to "watch" out for them... there a weapon just like a loaded gun...

[Zodiak]

12. shrug

You are probably right. I have been hearing a lot of "click it or ticket" ads lately, and the police uses the same "friendly reminder" to say they are "cracking down" on seat belt laws. I just do not like the language for these kinds of threats...the whole "Big brother with a friendly face" attitude that accompanies all police states.

In my opinion, just inform the public of the dangers and say "don't drink and drive". Most members of the public do not do this activity, so there is no need to issue a generalized threat along with it. "We are watching" applies as much to the innocent as well as guilty.

I apologize if I seem too harsh. It is the times we live in combined with an increasing police-state. I sometimes feel edgy about it.

[SouthernDem2004]

Friendly reminders do not work I am afraid.

[Ready4Change]

25. They don't reach the target audience.

People who drink and drive tend to ignore such warnings, as they think they are somehow immune to the dangers.

[Bouncy Ball]

74. Then why did you call it a friendly reminder?

[CarefullyLiberal]

134. Reply

I wonder if more people will die this weekend because of drunk driving or American soldiers in Iraq?

SouthernDem2004 is right on. :applause: The State of Florida would do well to take his post and turn into an ad campaign.

Police State???? Hardly.

-Fergus

[seabeyond]

35. we are watching you with cell phones

just switch drinking with talking on a cell phones. studies show person is equally incapacitate in response time and driving ability while talking on the phone.

be equally as mad. picking up that cell phone while driving is a choice. and you may not plan on having an accident, but how many people plan accidents.

[Stinky The Clown]

54. Picking up that cell phone to report an erratic driver is the right thing

to do.

I'll drop a dime on an erratic or aggressive driver in a heartbeat.

[Cha]

180. Cell phones are the

drunk and aggressive driver's worst nightmare!

[SouthernDem2004]

60. You are correct.

[streblin]

97. cell phones

i agree... i think in chicago daley is trying to outlaw handheld use...

[seabeyond]

101. let me clarify.......i am not suggesting them being illegal to use

while driving. i am suggesting a realistic view of drinking and driving along with all the risks in life. all that have not had a drink or more and gotten behind wheel raise hands. i am not into booze, dont drink at all now, and dont like it, but i have had alcohol and gotten behind wheel. and by the grace of god.....there go i. and i go along with penalizing a person drinking and driving, i also feel like with many things, crime and punishment is no longer balanced.

i am saying that clearly we have been told cell phones are as dangerous to driving.

so is eating
so is missing with radio
so is having more than one kid in back of seat fighting
so is an old person
so is the tired person

i am not suggesting out lawing any of these things. i am not suggesting sending soemone to jail, god forbid, those that commit one of these acts, has an accident and kills someone.

life people. there are risks in all things

[streblin]

103. gotcha

i believe daleys intent is you can have em but not use em when driving. this sits ok with me, no need to be distracted driving. when you do get in trouble then you can use the cell phone, that's a super benefit! 20 yrs ago ya went to get help or hoofed it to the nearest house or pay phone.
:patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot::patriot:

ps: you can add shaving, plucking eyebrows & doing your mascarra to your list of distractions :applause:

[Violet_Crumble]

165. Why not?

Where I am, it's illegal to talk on a handsheld mobile while driving. It's been that way for a long while, and I don't understand why anyone would be opposed to their use being illegal while driving. What's so difficult about installing a handsfree thingy in someone's car, or pulling off the road if yr mobile rings?


Violet...

[seabeyond]

175. because cell phones are equivilant to

messing with the radio, being old, having kids in back seat distracting you, putting on make up, being too tired, eating and any number of things.

because shit happens and there is an inherit risk just getting in a car

because we cannot keep all people safe at all times.

because the vast majority of times someone talks on a cell phone, messes with a radio or eats, they do not get in an accident. the VAST majority of times.

[Big Kahuna]

7. No kidding.

You're a public servant... get me another martini, stat! :)

[SouthernDem2004]

9. Yes, I serve the law abiding public. If you are DUI I will serve you in

another way...

Harsh? How many dead children have you pulled from cars? I do not find it amusing in the least.

[Big Kahuna]

13. I guess it's too much to expect a sense of humor

Let's put it this way. I am a law abiding citizen, 37 year old father of two children, pay my taxes (and your paycheck I might add).

Everytime I turn on my TV, I have a jack-booted Mass state trooper in my face telling me "forget to wear your seatbelt, and we're taking you down punk!". Fine, get the drunken idiots off the road. But these "freindly warnings" only serve to make law abiding citizens feel like we're living in a fascist police state.

[SouthernDem2004]

16. Funny, I only get that here.

The "facist police state" thing. Most do not see DUI laws as facist. Friendly reminders do not deter drunks. Some people need consequences.

My paycheck? Lol, Do you know where I live? I pay taxes also as do my family and friends. I am paid to enforce the law. Being friendly does not work with some people.

[Kingshakabobo]

26. I don't see the friendly reminders as fascist....

I don't see the friendly reminders as fascist but I DO see the 12 am "safety checks" as fascist.

Come on now, you can admit it here, the 12 am safety check is really a reason to stick your head in the window of a car to smell for alcohol isn't it? You are not REALLY looking for missing bulbs are you? That's what bugs me the most, the lie (perjury) that they are doing a "safety check" when in fact it is an illegal search. To make matters worse, the police will go to court and perjure themselves and say they arrested someone during the "safety check". Last safety check I went through held me up for 25 minutes on a Saturday night.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-police. I am anti perjury and hypocrisy and anti violation of the bill of rights.

[Big Kahuna]

28. fascism

I do not view DUI laws as fascist. I view intimidating police propaganda beamed into my living room as being fascist.

Also, if you agree that "friendly reminders" do not deter drunk drivers, then why did you post your "freindly reminder" in the first place? Why are you even argueing with me? Get out there and catch some DUI's and GTF off my TV screen :)

[blondeatlast]

36. Have you ever known someone maimed by a drunk driver? I do.

It has a tendency to change your perspective. I also know someone who has lost his license over it and continues to drive--DRUNK. We are no longer friends.

They've got a crappy job to do. Someday it could be your kid.

IMHO, there is no reason to feel threatened by those ads if you're not doing something deadly, exceedingly stupid, and illegal.

[Bzzzz]

111. "I do not find it amusing in the least"...

find another job.

[SouthernDem2004]

125. No, I can accomplish alot of good and help alot of people.

[Bzzzz]

128. Uh huh...

I detect a 'stroke of one's ego' here. IMHO

[SouthernDem2004]

135. How is that? You base your opinion on what?

I became an Officer to help people just like Firemen, Social Workers etc. We get a chance to do alot of good.

Of course, I could just sit behind a computer whine, generalize and pass judgement on people I do not know. But hey, that would be sad now wouldn't it?

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[SouthernDem2004]

143. Another rude personal attack. Good thing I do not do the alert thing.

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[southlandshari]

153. Why not?

Alerting on rule infractions isn't a bad thing.

[SouthernDem2004]

160. People can always use the ignore option. Why bother the mods with

such posts as the one above... I think people can form their own opinions of the poster.

[The Magistrate]

164. We Have To Enforce The Rules, Sir

If the things are not brought to our attention, it is likely they will be overlooked and stay; if they stay, people think the rules are not enforced and can be ignored, and cease to pay attention to them at all. It is not a bother to us; it is much more of a bother, in the long run, not to alert....

[Jim Sagle]

156. .

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[SouthernDem2004]

8. Its not a threat, it is reality.

I am not the fuzzy bunny Police. If you do something to endanger the lives of others I am not going to be your bestest friend.

Drunks do not respond to "Oh please sir, do not drink and if you do drive please be careful."

[Blue Diadem]

29. Does that also include your own?

I'm curious if you are one of those who enforces the law for all and doesn't let other cops go when they're drinking. This is big party weekend for off duty cops as well as everyone else.

I'm one of those whose known cops my entire life..many are relatives. I wasn't going to respond to this thread but then I read that you aren't the fuzzy bunny police. If you're like all the ones I know, they become fuzzy bunny with their own.

[SouthernDem2004]

31. My Department shows no favoritism with DUI. It is not a normal traffic

violation. DUIs endanger the lives of others. Heck, I do not know any Officers off this weekend.

[Blue Diadem]

42. Glad to hear there is no favoritism

Too bad it's not like that everywhere. I've been told that during training, they are advised to not ticket another officer, that it can create a future unsafe situation when you need backup. They were advised to either escort them home or call someone to take the offending officer home if they felt they were too drunk to drive..otherwise let them go. When it was brought up to me in a bragging type way, that soon to be officer and I had words. By the way, that officer drinks and drives.

I have a "thing" about drunk driving. I've been plowed into twice by drunks. It annoys me greatly when I see off duty cops drinking and getting into a vehicle. There's been a few through the years that take open containers in the vehicles with them. I've stopped my kids, when they were little, from riding with a relative(cop) because that relative had an open container. Since his retirement, I've heard his traffic stops(via scanner) and he's still being let go.

Some areas have rotating schedules, two-12's on, two off, every other weekend a 3 day. Relatives, acquainances & neighbors I've run into over the holiday either take comp time or it's part of their rotation. Sure many are working, but around here it's not every officer.

My experience doesn't just stem from one dept, one city, or one county. Does your FOP serve alcohol?

[SouthernDem2004]

88. Reply:

We do not have FOP here.

There are defintely problems in every Department. A supposed DUI Officer from a nearby city hit 2 NOPD officers conducting a traffic stop on the interstate about 2 years ago. He was drunk. We get rid of them as soon as we identify them. Unfortunately they are often hard to spot.

My Department does not allow leave on holidays like this weekend. As a matter of fact I need to go get ready for work.


Peace

[Blue Diadem]

94. Stay safe out there

You're right, they are hard to spot for those in authority to do something about them.

[misanthrope]

100. Are you in the NOPD?...

...If so, it raises a LOT of questions in my mind.

[SouthernDem2004]

104. Nope, do not even live in the state. The local drunk went there to party

or something.

[Tsiyu]

118. Yeah, I am SO glad that drivers are your main interest

as a law enforcement officer. If everyone would just stay home, we would have no problems, right?

Do you know any little boys or girls who have been raped? Do you know any hard-working folks who have had everything they own stolen? Know any cops' wives who have been beaten to a pulp by their husbands? Know any folks being stalked and threatened daily by exes? Know any kids living in houses where the adults are cooking crank? Know anyone who has been ripped off $3000 by cyber crime? Know of any murder victims whose killers have never been caught? Know of any teenagers forced into prostitution?

My feeling is that most cops are too cowardly to apprehend actual criminals. It's just to much fun and too easy to pluck drivers out of their cars and harrass them.

Cops have ceased to be heroes to me. They don't seem to want to view their role as one of protecting Americans. Rather, the American citizen is now presumed guilty and talked to in the most condescending, threatening way - as in your OP.

Sorry, but when cops stop getting arrested for wrongdoing, I will stop watching YOU. There are many crimes being committed this weekend. Some of them will be committed by cops themselves. So, watch yourself and don't harrass people or pull them out of their cars and start beating on them. WE WILL BE WATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (how does that phrase make you feel now?)

[SouthernDem2004]

126. Lol...

I am not completely sure what you are responding to.

No one said stay at home.

There are Officers tasked with DUI enforcement. During major Holidays that number is increased for public safety.

As for your 2nd paragraph. Aside from the Cyber Crime, yes those are the people I deal with normally.

The rest of you post is just an anti-Police ill informed rant.

[Tsiyu]

127. Then could we say your post is anti-Driver rant?

You didn't answer my question at all.

How does the phrase "We are watching you" make you feel when it's YOU who is being watched?

Can't you answer that, please?

[SouthernDem2004]

131. Anti-DUI rant actually.

My patrol car has a video camera. I wear two audio recording devices. Watch away.... People always watch the Police. When ever we are in public people watch out of curiosity. Do not care.

[jmowreader]

141. I don't think they do traffic duty because it's fun and easy

They do it because they're told to do it.

And they're told to do it because our politicians are too cowardly to raise taxes when they need to.

It is nearly impossible to raise taxes in Fayettenam. If they even suggest it, the local Libertarian Party writes three op-eds in the paper saying they should "cut the fat" from local government, and at the next election there's a freeper running for every city council seat saying he's going to "cut taxes, streamline government and improve ties with the military community." (The last part sounds good unless you know that the only way to get Fayetteville and Fort Bragg tied any tighter is with industrial equipment.)

So how do we increase governmental revenues in this shithole? Use the cops, naturally. Put up DWI checkpoints that, because they announce the locations of the fucking things in the newspaper the day before they run them, never seem to catch any drunk drivers but do catch hundreds of seatbelt violators and expired inspection stickers. They pull over lots of drivers for doing 27 in a school zone--that's always a guaranteed $200 bump to the city coffers. They run stoplight cameras; those are real profitable because these shitheads have them timed to start taking pictures the microsecond the light turns red.

We've got a police force that will do good things if the city lets them. There's a project here named Grove View Terrace, and it used to be the very best place in eastern North Carolina to score crack, crystal, smack, just any kind of hard drug you wanted. It was also a good place to go if you wanted to die but were too big a wimp to kill yourself--at least half the murders in Fayetteville were committed there. The cops cleaned that place up, man, now it's one of the safest neighborhoods in town. But all too often, the city will need to fix the pothole in front of Wal-Mart and they'll send the cops out to get the money to pay for it.

[Tsiyu]

159. Forget "Serve and Protect"

It's "Click It or we'll Stick It"

[Telly Savalas]

170. Yeah, you fascist!

Why don't you quick picking on people who get wasted and operate fast moving 2 ton pieces of steel and go after real criminals instead?

[EvolveOrConvolve]

51. The tone of the message was not unfriendly

Drunk driving is a serious problem in the U.S., and I for one am appreciative of the police officers that work long weekends like Memorial day to help keep myself and my family safe.

[realdemocrat]

122. Amen to that buddy.

[Conservativesux]

145. To The Police: "Up Yours" on the seat belt enforcement stops..

if we needed you as parents we would say so, but then you wouldnt have all that extra $$$ flowing into your coffers and the insurance industry wouldnt not be socking it to us in premiums.

Just say NO to seat belts for adults!

[patdem]

3. Great advice! Make plans BEFORE you go out...my SO and I plan

according to whose family we will visit...if we visit his, I get to drink, if we visit mine, he gets to drink! You know, the stress and stuff. But in ANY CASE one of us stays sober to drive and the other drinks...of course the drinker is a pain in the arse for a sober SO!!! :bounce:

[im10ashus]

6. Good plan.

Drinking and driving kills. If only this country had a viable alternative to driving (like rail service) this wouldn't be such a problem. Although, there will still be a few clueless people, and that's the real danger. Thanks for the heads-up.

[globalvillage]

10. Thanks for the reminder

Words to live by.
:patriot:

[warrior1]

11. The police take care of their own

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/12968295p-13815463c.html

Chief's arrest is no barrier
CHP official named to key post after charge, DMV suspension.

A California Highway Patrol chief, arrested last year on suspicion of drunken driving and charged with failing to obey a command from a peace officer, is set to assume one of the department's highest-profile jobs.

Deputy Chief Gary Dominguez, scheduled to become commander in the CHP's Los Angeles-area division, was not charged with drunken driving, but faced the misdemeanor charge of failing to comply with a peace officer's order after officers had to forcibly remove him from his vehicle.

The charge was later dropped when the main witness was unavailable to testify, Pasadena Chief Prosecutor Connie Orozco said in an interview this week.

A breath test found that Dominguez, 45, registered a blood alcohol level of 0.10 percent, over the .08 legal limit for driving under the influence of alcohol. In a separate, administrative process, the Department of Motor Vehicles suspended his license for four months, a DMV spokesman said.

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It gets worst.

[SouthernDem2004]

15. Wow, 10 Post before an anti-Police person popped up. Not bad.

[warrior1]

18. anti-police person?

Thanks, but no I'm not, I do work in law enforcement and I just get very tired of their hypocrisy.

Sorry If my post offended you.

[SouthernDem2004]

20. and what do you do?

Why post a unrelated article then?

[warrior1]

23. Seems to be related to me.

Believe me that I'm against drinking and driving. I was just pointing out how the police in this instance protects and rewards their own and I'm sick and tired of it. How is this guy going to learn if his own police department rewards him? Will he stop drinking and driving? Or does he have to kill someone first.

Alls I'm saying.

Peace, ok?

[Kingshakabobo]

22. I don't see how that post is anti-police??

I happen to know several policemen from both Chicago and the suburbs of Chicago. I'll tell you this, I've seen every one of them drive after drinking because they know that if they get pulled over they can "flip their button" and get a pass. So, it is kinda hard to hear that "we'll be watching you" stuff. I know you guys have a difficult job to do and I respect that but I've never met a cop who I would call a saint.

[Big Kahuna]

30. "You're either with us, or against us"

If you're against the war, you hate the troops.

If you are against the commercials, your anti-police.

Gotta love it.

[SouthernDem2004]

32. Odd, I never mentioned the commercials or stated anything about being

against the commercials. Nor did I mention the troops.

Guess you are posting on the wrong thread.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. The point being made is the evident hypocrisy of police officers....

...enforcing a law that they regularly violate themselves.

It would help the image of law enforcement if they cleaned up their own act before telling others how to behave.

[SouthernDem2004]

33. Guess all Police are the same. We are really just one person that is

really quick.

[blondeatlast]

39. See--you need to step back a bit with the broad brush.

It goes both ways.

[blondeatlast]

37. I was defending you upthread, but watch for the braod brush mentality.

That wins you no kudos from me.

[SouthernDem2004]

43. Hmmm, What generalizing am I doing exactly?

I do not recall "broad brushing" anything.

Also, I do not post to get kudos. I am not a "me too" poster.

[Deja Q]

14. A gun makes a mess, but if you want to advocate suicide that's fine by me.

Go ahead and watch. I'll be sure to be buck nekkid for y'all. :evilgrin:

You won't miss my seatbelt, that's for sure! B-)

And, no, I don't drink. Waste of money.

Okay, crass and tasteless jokes aside, I'm with you 100%. I hate drunk drivers as much as I hate child molestors or crooked CEOs.

[TahitiNut]

17. Rather than drink and drive, call someone like me.

As my friends and family know, I'm more than happy to come and drive folks home at any time, day or night. Over twenty years without a moving violation and over 15 years without drinking, I once did enough drinking (and driving) to be grateful I survived. There should be enough people who, like me, don't drink anymore and would enjoy doing his bit to make sure a friend or relative doesn't wind up killing someone - even themselves.

[Buddyblazon]

24. I'm one of those people....

alcohol gives me unbelievably painful heartburn. So I rarely if ever drink. Usually a beer every couple of months.

And my friends know...if they're shitfaced...I'll come pick them up. They usually give me a couple of bucks for gas money.

[Retired AF Dem]

34. People in Huntsville AL havent gotten the word yet

Seven dead so far on Huntsville roads this weekend.

[blondeatlast]

40. And as long as we argue whether TV ads are fascist, without exploring any

real solutions, it'll continue.

Sad, sad, sad.

[sweetheart]

41. Don't worry, we'll just smoke weed.

The police state has gone too far, when threats are "friendly".... go
threaten some criminals.

[SouthernDem2004]

44. A thought from one of our greatest Presidents:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

-Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)

[soda]

45. eureka

wow and you realise that now after 44 posts

[Pathwalker]

47. Ummmm, wasn't it Confucius who said that?

first?

[SouthernDem2004]

52. Nope, it was Abe

[Maddy McCall]

58. LOL! yeah, you pretty much proved that quote true throughout...

this thread. :eyes:

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[SouthernDem2004]

90. You equate DUI laws with slavery and "intellectual rape?" Wow.

All I can say is... wow. Enforcing DUI laws is bullying... wow.

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[SouthernDem2004]

105. Wow, now you know me?

I did not know I knew anyone on DU. Since you know so much about me as to pass judgement we must be pretty close. Stop by for coffee in the morning and we will catch up.

[tabasco]

102. My sentiments exactly. Ooooh I'm so scared !

We are watching you !

Friendly threats. Cops round my parts walk around campgrounds smelling for people smoking weed in their fucking tents. Thanks officers for protecting us from that evil camping pothead threat.

I was pulled over once when I was the designated driver and quite sober. My passenger was drunk and smelled like it. I told the officer I was sober but of course the little fucker demanded I do the idiot dance, which I failed. I had played tennis for four hours that day and my knees were very tired. Of course, once I took the breathalyzer the fucker got all polite again. Asshole.

I love and respect the good cops but they seem so very rare.

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[Telly Savalas]

171. That's right! DUI isn't a real crime!

It's victimless. I dare someone to name a single instance of a person being hurt by someone driving while intoxicated.

[Pepperbelly]

46. Geez ... I barely even drink and this makes me want to ...

Damn I hate threats.

[SouthernDem2004]

48. Call it a threat if you like but I do not find this topic amusing.

I deal with the death, destruction and misery brought on by DUIs. I hope it never hits close to home for you.

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[SouthernDem2004]

50. Sorry, I do not comment on profanity filled attacks. (Other then this.) :)

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[Maddy McCall]

57. Better watch it. He'll "cuff and stuff" you...

and all that other cop lingo 10-4. ;-)

[Jim Sagle]

157. Time to call the "meat wagon" for the "perp."

;-)

[SouthernDem2004]

163. "Perp" is a TV term. In real life we refer to them as suspects. /eom

[Evergreen Emerald]

66. That fact that everyone knows they should not drink and drive...

...does not stop everyone from drinking and driving as evidenced by the number of DEAD from drunk drivers--who know better.

From your post it sounds like you may be hittin the sauce early today? Don't drive!

[Pepperbelly]

68. you have gotten exactly

nothing right in any of your posts on this thread, having just reviewed them all.

What are you ... a cop or something?

[Evergreen Emerald]

76. Gosh, I was just going to say the same thing about you!

But, I decided not to make this personal.

[Pepperbelly]

78. but you would have been wrong.

:D

[Evergreen Emerald]

63. How is that a threat to you?

If you are drinking and driving--the public wants you off the street.
Don't you want those who are drinking and driving watched?

[Pepperbelly]

67. but I am not ...

so what purpose does this serve?

[Evergreen Emerald]

69. The ad is addressed to those that drink and drive.

If you are not..then it is not addressed to you!

[Pepperbelly]

70. this isn't an ad ...

this is posted on my favorite bb.

I don't need that shit here.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

99. ...

:applause:

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[SouthernDem2004]

59. LOL, More profanity filled personal attacks.

[Maddy McCall]

61. Sorry I offended you, Barney.

:eyes:

[Cooley Hurd]

115. BWAHAHAHA!!!

[Evergreen Emerald]

64. How is "we are watching you" a threat to lock them up before the fact?

I am surprised that usually intelligent people are missing the whole point.

There are many ways to motivate people. Studies show that one way is the fear of hurting someone or themselves. Surprisingly, it does not work for everyone. Another way to motivate people is to make an act criminal with the risk of being arrested or charged with a crime.

I am not understanding your posts or your response to those who are trying to protect you.

[Speed8098]

110. I think the question is.................

Who's watching the watchers?

[Lannes]

56. They dont mess around in FLA

so I tend to take their advice,besides its the right thing to do in this case.

[Evergreen Emerald]

62. I am always amazed at the DU people when there is a police thread

1. We will be watching you is not a "threat." It is the fact that if they drink and drive, they will likely be caught.
2. Stats show that the idea of being killed or maimed did not entice people to wear seatbelts--but the thought of getting a 10 dollar ticket did. The "we will be watching you" idea is to address those who are not motivated by the harm they may cause someone, but by getting caught.

One of you said: "don't threaten me, go threaten a criminal." Those who drive drunk are some of the most dangerous criminals. They have deadly weapons and use them randomly. And "we will be watching you" is not a threat!

One of you said that cops take care of their own and are given better treatment and suggest to clean house before arresting anyone else. What the hell? As in any profession there are good workers / bad workers / lazy workers / criminals. You are stereotyping. As you know with race and gender, stereotyping is closed minded.

I have found that when an officer does something illegal--they are treated more harshly than other criminals. Your one example does not prove that all cops are given breaks--indeed I have found it to be the other way around.

You all expect police to protect you / to help you when you need it/ and yet openly despise them.

This friendly reminder may help save the life of you or your child.

Many of us on this forum are police officers / prosecutors /or their family members.

[Pepperbelly]

65. so what?

First, you haven't been around here long enough to have seen that many threads like this.

Second, if I wanted threats, I would've stayed married.

Third, there is a mindset among many police officers (and yes, I was in the business for almost 10 years) that sez ... I will MAKE you do what I want. I no longer go for that. All badge heavy does is make me want to fight.

Fourth, there is not a single, solitary poster at this board who does not know that drinking and driving can get them in a jam. So what purpose does this serve at one of our havens from the CRAPTACULOR propaganda that we see on the boob tube? Education? No way. Everyone already knows.

Fifth, it sure feels like a threat to me.

Sixth, your perception of cops being harder on cops is naive. The only times that I see cops hard on cops is when there is outside involvement that precludes a coverup.

[Evergreen Emerald]

73. Actually, I have been around plenty.

And the threads I see regarding police officers are generally hostile--like your responses. My guess is, however, you would call an officer in a heartbeat if you needed one. My guess is that you would want them to be there to protect you and your family.

You state that "badge heavy" makes you want to fight. First: "we are watching you" is not badge heavy. Second: perhaps you would be motivated not to drink and drive by the thought of hurting someone. YOU are not everyone. Nor are you the norm. If you look closely at the ad you will see that it is designed to motivate a variety of people on many levels. To SAVE people.

Nor are you the center of the universe (and therefore the ad was not necessarily aimed at you).

You keep saying that everyone knows not to drink and drive: yeah...but as evidenced by the numbers of DUI injuries and deaths... knowing and doing are two different things.

You must have had a horrible experience with police officers. My experience has been different: it is like living in a glass house--where every aspect of your life is open for the public and for management to see. One misstep and you are nailed. And the hardest nailing comes from the police--because of the betrayal.

You paint all police officers with a broad brush. I am offended when you do that.

[Pepperbelly]

75. and I am generally offended by what passes for ...

police work in the USA.

And what country do YOU live in? I was an officer. We would occasionally drink. Sometimes a lot. I have seen police officers drive who should have been at the ER for acute alcohol poisoning. I have seen this in excess of five times. This even included some very high ranking officers.

[Retired AF Dem]

87. An excess of five times?

And there are over 500,000 police officers in the U.S.?

[Pepperbelly]

89. I didn't go around TRYING to find

parties. :D

At more than 5 I did attend, I found cops driving who should not have been. And no, i didn't write them either.

[SouthernDem2004]

83. Actually if you notice its the same few posters. Best just to ignore

them.

[Evergreen Emerald]

86. You are probably right

I will try my best. :)

[Bluerthanblue]

71. DWI kills far more Americans than terrorism...

... and it IS something we can actually have a 'personal choice' to stop- at least as individuals, and as those who are with intoxicated 'friends'-

So often, it is the intoxicated person who survives- and what a terrible legacy to have to live with-

thanks for the reminder- AND for the effort- i've known beautiful lives cut short, and forever altered, by the 'altered-judgement' of otherwise very 'responsible' people.

[warrior1]

72. How about instead of telling someone to use a gun

to kill themselves. Offer a better solution.

First, don't drink and drive.

Second, if you drink then use a DD.

Third, if you drink call a cab.

Four, if you drink stay home.

Five, if your friends or family drink, do one of the above.

It's called support and it's better than telling someone to kill themselves. With out a threat. IMO.

[Pepperbelly]

77. common sense is uncommon at times.

Thanks.

[Evergreen Emerald]

79. And hence the need for jails.

[Bouncy Ball]

81. Your point is a good one.

It's all in the presentation. People don't take kindly to "we're watching you" especially when it's said after "just a friendly reminder..." That sudden change of tone isn't productive and it just serves to ruffle people's feathers.

But then, I suspect that was the POINT of this thread.

After all, people don't JUST go driving around drunk on Memorial Day weekend. Sure they are more likely to (the amatuers), but people drive drunk ALL the time.

And your points, about what to do INSTEAD of driving drunk, are far more constructive and helpful than the opening post on this thread.

[Pepperbelly]

82. I wanted Roxanne and got Every Breath You Take! nt

[misanthrope]

84. Why do you...

...capitalize the word "police" without it being part of a proper noun?

Do you do the same with "citizen?"

[SouthernDem2004]

85. Good question...

No real answer though. I just do. Nope, its not grammatically correct. I also capitalize Democrat even though its not a proper noun. Just one of my quirks....

[misanthrope]

91. Actually,...

..."democrat" is used as a proper noun all the time, especially here.

[SouthernDem2004]

92. True but it is not considered a proper noun. I just do it because it feels

right.

[Lorien]

93. Thank you!

and congrats on those arrests! :toast: One of my co-workers was headed to his brother's funeral two years ago when a drunk driver hit him and his family head on. His wife and son were killed, and his daughter was badly injured.If you drink and drive, the suffering you, yes YOU, could cause is beyond imagination.Please heed the words of SouthernDem2004 and choose a designated (sober) driver before you drink!

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[SouthernDem2004]

106. That made no sense what so ever.

[soda]

107. of course you didn´t

i found the tone of your original piece rude and offensive and i´m not even in the americas, if you post as an equal with others people might respond, but this i´m a cop stuff reminds me of south park

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[sweetheart]

114. exactly

Ya know, its hard to write an emotion, sir. It takes
repetition of the internal attempt to frame a feeling
in words, that is normally simply silent and ambivilent
to words and self.

The other head... Big Silent Planet... And i'm sorry it
does not jive. Some writing just sucks from the first
draft and i'm sorry that one doesn't come off.. lead baloon
oh well, a sense of rebellion against this society that is
constantly in your face and telling you what to do.

So there is only the other head, when at a keyboard. It
really is prose, not speech, and some times "prosetry"
is a gross failure
of an attempt to travel
untested untried
in to exploring life
without oppressors, and
those who enslave.

The north head darkness of
the north pole, pitch black void
Empty arctic cold refreshing
The other head indeed.

I haven't checked the profile, but i think around 8000 posts
writing for sweetheart, and its diffiult, to probe
the question, of what is truth, what feelings make truth,
and how they manifest in the mind.

In the paint of these words,
Is any artist's ego unwoven, ugly and barren,
captured in iron, big angry ego,
that will die one day and is,
in contrast to the other head,
transitory.

to contrast we have the "hate" of the police state today,
of the jesus state of dissonant authority
Of police officers shouting and yelling their laws
and their orders, pissing like dogs all over
hte public common, its disgusting.

IT IS TERRORISM.
"COP" IS TERRORIXING,
THREATENING SEAARCH
AND PRISON IN PUBLIC.

Dammitt.

[Warren DeMontague]

109. Hah?

...Wha?

I didn't see any turgid oppresive penis of the state in his post, or any of the other nonsensical florid metaphorical crap thou hast projected in exceedingly long-winded prose upon this thread.

What I did see, was someone telling people not to drink and drive. Seeing as I lost my best friend at age 26 to a drunk driver, I happen to agree with that little piece of "cynical tomfoolery".

Jesus, Mr. Freud. Sometimes a cigar is just a god-damn cigar.

[Bzzzz]

112. "big penis authority "...

LOOOOL
I Love It!!:rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

108. Damn straight. My best friend was killed by a drunk driver.

I'm totally libertarian on what consenting adults choose to do with their own bodies. Really, I don't think it's any of the government's business. But as soon as your freedom crosses the line into someone else's territory- and getting behind the wheel and endangering others is certainly that- then you become someone else's problem.

I did my share of dumb things as a kid, and thankfully I lived to outgrow them... But Drinking and Driving is a REALLY dumb thing to do.

[WilliamPitt]

117. Thank you.

http://www.madd.org/victims/

Everyone chirping at this guy about 'fascist police states' can just shut the fuck up, please.

Jesus.

[Tsiyu]

119. Right

Because drunk driving victims are THE ONLY victims out there!

Can you find a website of folks beaten and terrorized by cops?

Rape victims who know the cops won't even bother looking for the men who raped them?

Victims of all sorts of crimes IGNORED because we only have money to concentrate on DRIVERS?

[SouthernDem2004]

130. Ya know, people can do more then one thing at a time and so

can Police Departments.

[Tsiyu]

132. That's why law enforcement runs so many

commercials threatening rapists and child molesters and thieves and corporate polluters ( ever see an asthmatic baby fight to breathe? Ever see one die?) and wife beaters. No, no commercials for those crimes.

But SEAT BELTS!! We can spare A LOT of change for that issue! Give me a break.

Assuming the reader is suicidal by saying "if you want to kill yourself go get a gun" is the same as me posting a Friendly Reminder to cops that "if you want to beat someone up, get a punching bag." Should I assume all cops are abusive and corrupt because some are? Should i adress them in the same tone you used?

And when i say, "WE WILL BE WATCHING YOU, COPPER" how does that make you feel? Three times I have asked this question and you refuse to answer it. Why?

[SouthernDem2004]

133. I answered it. I can not help if you can not read.

The answer to the rest of you post is just to obvious.

[Tsiyu]

136. Well, you said it

it's obvious to me as well.

It's so much easier to just dismiss someone, to make them smaller than yourself or less "informed" than yourself, than to address what they say. You refuse to respond to my statement, choosing instead to make some cryptic comment concerning my "obvious" message. But you don't really know Jack about me or why I formed my opinions. So, maybe just admit you can't argue these issues and stop insulting others who disagree with the tone and the nature of your post?

And you did answer above, at the same time I posted above, my apologies.

[SouthernDem2004]

138. How about a truce.

I know the Police make some people unhappy. Its the nature of the job. We arrest people and write tickets. Does not generate a big fan club.

Yes, some of my responses to people attacking me were abrasive.

Lets just agree to disagree on some issues.


Peace

[Tsiyu]

140. Peace n/t

[Telly Savalas]

172. There's a school of utopian thinking...

than envisions a day centuries from now when police officers can enforce both vehicular and non-vehicular crime. While I personally find this to be implausible, some of these futurists have the audacity to suggest that you see this happening in many places even today. Of course this is preposterous, because everyone knows that our prisons are filled exclusively with people guilty of traffic offenses.

[tabasco]

155. Are you allowed to tell posters to shut the fuck up ...

if you have a bit of notoriety?

I am a vet and I read posts making outrageous statements about the military. Funny, I don't tell them to shut the fuck up. I post my opposing viewpoint and move on.

I'm also a lawyer and have watched police lie in court over a hundred times. I wish I could tell them to shut the fuck up.

BTW - I'm not one of the people posting about police states, but those posters have a point and I hope they continue to post.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

181. Amen, Will

Some of the responses in this thread are ridiculous.

DTH

[dandrhesse]

120. Thank you, this can not be repeated too often. I also think about the

effects of the survivors, especially the person who was driving drunk. Often the passengers in their own car are killed or maimed for life. Living with that guilt IMO is a fate worst than death, some things are worse and that I feel is one of them.

[realdemocrat]

121. I dont drink and drive...

But I am not intimidated by cops who think they have the power of Big Brother and can do as they please just because they dont like the way you look or because of the color of your skin.

Especially the young ones who think they have something to prove.

[SouthernDem2004]

129. Neither do I....

You last statement is an ongoing problem. I am what is known as a Field Training Officer. I train new Officers once the finish the Academy.

New Officers often feel like they have something to prove or they think Cop shows and movies are real life. The first year is also usual when we find out if they will make it as a Police Officer. The problem is during that year the public is subjected to that person. Law Enforcement is not for everyone. There are alot of people that say "I used to be the Police." The job is not for everyone.

If I were king we would not hire anyone under the age of 25.

[Tansy_Gold]

137. THANK YOU!!!

If even one person reading your post gets the message, that may be one or two or more lives saved.

Very early last Wednesday morning (5/25/05, 1:30 A.M.) my husband was driving home from work in Phoenix and was rear-ended by another driver, who then fled the scene. Fortunately, hubby wasn't hurt, but our truck was rendered undriveable and we are now struggling to find transportation for both of us to get to work. The other driver's insurance company is saying he claims not to be at fault, and so we are facing a very long and costly fight. The witness report from a third driver states that the car that hit our truck was weaving erratically in and out of the sparse traffic and doing at least 85-100 mph.

The DPS officer who made the report, the witness, and my husband all immediately speculated that the fleeing driver and companion (who left her purse lying on the floor of the passenger's side) were probably drunk and trying to avoid capture until it was too late to detect their blood alcohol level.

If running the risk of ruining (or losing) your own life isn't enough reason to get someone to forgo drinking and driving, I would think running the risk of killing, maiming, or in other ways destroying the lives of other people ought to be.

I have absolutely not one shred of sympathy or understanding or respect for ANYONE who drinks and drives. None.

[lies and propaganda]

146. sounds a bit facsist to me.

Tonite I will just go on my merry way, drinking, smoking, driving and definitely not wearing a seatbelt.
If i were a dude, I would try to get road head as well.

So come find me SouthernDem, give me my spanking.

[Warren DeMontague]

149. What I absolutely don't understand

is people who don't get the difference between personal freedom and the so-called "freedom" to fuck up other people's shit.

"I'm gonna drink and drive- NYAH!" What are you, twelve?

Jesus.

Want to shoot heroin into your eyeballs in your own living room? Honestly, I don't give a fuck. But as soon as you get behind the wheel while inebriated you are endangering me and my family- and once you're done playing the "wannabe radical" maybe you'll figure out that the REALITY is, other people fucking DIE from that. Maybe if you'd visited your best friend at age 26 while he lay dying in the hospital from having half his head knocked away by a drunk asshole in a pickup truck, you'd feel differently. I really hope it doesn't take that kind of experience, however, to get you a clue - as it did me.

[Tsiyu]

158. I think the poster was joking

because the OP is a bit...ahem... preachy

[Warren DeMontague]

166. Well, shit. I'm not into preaching. But as you can imagine I take this

issue seriously.

Seems to me there are a few camps here- the "fuck you, fascist- you can't tell me what to do" folks being one end of the spectrum... and the folks like me who actually have had someone close to us killed by a drunk driver. So, again, excuse me for -in this one instance- siding with the people doing the 'preaching'.

People who preach at other people about who they should or shouldn't screw, what they should or shouldn't eat, what drugs they should or shouldn't do, which invisible being they should show proper deference to, why they shouldn't look at dirty magazines or swear or listen to jam bands or wear white after Labor day or any of that rigamarole.. yes. I'm with you all the way. Preachy motherfuckers piss me off, too.

But the poster clearly said "If you're going to drink and drive..." Seems to me, unless you're planning on doing that, you can safely ignore the rest of the harangue. If you ARE planning on drinking and driving, and you resent being lectured about it, well, as one of the people whose family you will be putting in danger, my reply is, "too fucking bad"

Oh, yeah, and take a cab.

[bling bling]

147. Thanks! And be careful out there - danger increases for the po-po too.

Not too long ago in my city a cop was pulled over to the side of the road helping a broken down vehicle and a drunk driver plunged into the cop and he lost both of his legs. He's only 25.

Be safe and thanks for the reminder!

[Zhade]

148. I think I know why so many are pissed at you.

It's not because of the "threat" (I don't care much for cops, but don't see it as a threat) - it's because you insultingly assume anyone here would be stupid enough to drink and drive.

THAT'S why people are telling you to fuck off.

[Warren DeMontague]

151. Well, I was dumb enough to do it when I was younger.

Like Bush and Cheney and plenty of other folks.

I didn't think I was being dumb, I thought I was being clever. Hell, who wants to pay for a cab?

Some life lessons you have to learn the hard way. Fortunately, for me, the learning process was not so hard that I came away with any permanent damage-- or the lifelong knowledge that I had caused any. I spent plenty of time in my youth bitching about "unfair" DUI laws, but now I see the point. On very few issues in my life have I done a complete 180. This is one.

Maybe you're right, the tone of the original post offended people who would most certainly never drink and drive. But I know for a fact that plenty of "smart" people do so, and judging by the "fuck you, fascist, you can't tell me what to do" tone of some of the responses, I don't think the issue is entirely people who are indignant because they would never do something like that.

I think it's people who don't understand the bedrock concept of your freedom ending where my nose begins.

[Pepperbelly]

150. Sunday evening and I still have yet to drink & drive.

The "friendly" reminder worked and I have successfully been thwarted from doing what I have never done.

:woohoo:

[Midlodemocrat]

152. I appreciate your posting this.

Last summer, a dear friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver. Thankfully, he died instantly, but he left behind a loving wife and two children who needed him. The drunk driver is currently in jail, will get out and resume his life, but my friend is dead.

I read through this thread before responding and I don't think a friendly reminder, or 'we will be watching you' implies a police state. If you have ever been at the scene of a fatal accident that was caused by alcohol, as I have, you would do anything in your power to prevent more people from dying and their families from suffering.

Thank you SouthernDem2004.

[southlandshari]

154. I agree.

My uncle was killed by a drunk driver, and I don't mind a friendly OR a stern warning about the dangers of drinking driving any day of any week of the year.

:thumbsup:

[im10ashus]

169. My condolences on your lost.

It is horrible to have to lose someone so senselessly.

[NNN0LHI]

161. One question officer

Why are there parking lots outside every tavern I have been in?

Don

[SouthernDem2004]

162. Lets see... Some do not drink to point of intoxication, designated drivers

people getting a ride home, catching a cab, catching the bus, taking the subway or walking.

[NNN0LHI]

168. So you are saying it is OK to drink and drive then?

Just as long as the person does not drink themselves to the point of intoxication. Alright. Just wanted to get that straight. Because we certainly don't need parking lots outside taverns for people getting a ride home, catching a cab, catching the bus, taking the subway or walking.

Don

[SouthernDem2004]

185. Alot of states do have open container laws so you not technically.

[Warren DeMontague]

167. That's an excellent question

but it doesn't make the drunks on the road any safer.

[earth mom]

173. My mom was killed by a drunk driver 23 years ago.

so to the OP-I really appreciate your post and I'm very glad that DUI is taken so seriously these days. Back then it wasn't. The driver who killed my mom and who thought my mom was a cardboard box that she hit while my mom crossed the street, didn't even turn herself in until 8-9 hours later. She had a "friend" on the police force-who in many ways I won't go into here-helped her-we had witnesses and proof-from getting a worse rap than she did. She got a mere slap on the hand. It was a nightmare and I was devastated and also enraged by the sequence of events. And while this experience should have soured me on cops forever, I am realistic and mature (I hope) enough to realize that there are good cops and bad cops out there.

Losing someone in this way is horrific. While I applaud the OP efforts, many here dis him. What a country we live in. :eyes:

[NNN0LHI]

174. Sorry about your mom

I just don't like the hypocrisy. I don't think any drinking and driving should be allowed period. First offense should be a felony with a mandatory 10 year sentence. Quit selling booze at sporting events, taverns, or any place where the person needs to get in their car and drive home. Limit drinking to ones own home. That is the way it should be.

And by the way I have a cousin who is a Cook county cop and I can tell you where he is every night. He is at the tavern and so drunk he can't even recognize me. He gets in his car after last call at 2:00AM and drives about twenty miles to his house. And he is always carrying at least two loaded guns with him at all times too. One is his service weapon and the other is an untraceable drop gun to put in a persons hand just in case he shoots someone who he shouldn't have. Every cop I know carries a drop gun with them for just such a circumstance.

Don

[Lerkfish]

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[Jose Diablo]

177. Remember, only you can prevent forest fires

wait, thats another 'friendly' public spirited message. <sigh>

There are so many messages, I get them confused with each other. Smokey the Bear, is he a policeman or a forest ranger? Maybe both, eh?

Incidently, you know all those Smokey the Bear messages, most of the forest fire were caused by lightning, but the message helps us to remember our place in society. Pound the message in enough times and people naturally become obedient to any and all instructions. After all, who can argue the point of drunk driving is good? Ya can't, but the message isn't the most important thing, it's the conditioning people to be respectful AND obedient to authority.

Here, buy a SUV, no wait, now we don't want you to drive SUVs. Buy this car with big fins, no wait, it's better to drive a tin can on wheels, less fuel burned. Drink more, er, less.

Here is what I think. You can take your 'friendly' public spirited message and cram it firmly up you rectum.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

178. you could have relayed the same message without saying "we're watching"

it would probably have been more effective, though i doubt anyone who is here to read your message is dumb enough to drink and drive. people know it's a stupid move and those that do it don't care what you have to say.

so what have you really accomplished here?
starting another thread so you can play the victim from a top your high horse....

your threads always seem to attract "police haters", i wonder why.....

thank you for your service as a public servant.

however, imo you could be more effective if you got down off your high horse and tried to communicate with people like they are reasonable adults.

i know the police are watching, i don't need a reminder.
i know drinking and driving is very dangerous, i don't need a reminder.

thanks anyway.

[wtmusic]

182. agree

a friendly reminder is fine. The power trip I can do without.

[SouthernDem2004]

183. Hmmm...

Well, I typed a response but deleted it. No point really.

People are able to judge posters themselves.

Peace

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