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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:36 AM
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A Glimpse into The Future.
Conclusion: Expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over the next two years as Bilderbergers try to safeguard the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's hands. In a recession or, at worst, a depression, the population will be forced to dramatically cut down their spending habits, thus ensuring a longer supply of oil to the world's rich as they try to figure out what to do.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:48 AM
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1. Great emphasis was placed on more NGOs
Long live democracy. Look "nonelected, self-appointed" and "expanding democracy" in the same sentence.


The Bilderbergers have been vigorously debating giving, for the first time, nonelected, self-appointed, environmental activists a position of governmental authority on the governing board of the agency which controls the use of atmosphere, outer space, the oceans, and, for all practical purposes, biodiversity. This invitation for "civil society" to participate in global governance is described as expanding democracy.

According to sources within Bilderberg, the status of NGOs would be elevated even further in the future. The NGO activity would include agitation at the local level, lobbying at the national level, producing studies to justify global taxation through UN organizations such as Global Plan, one of Bilderberg´s pet projects for over a decade. The strategy to advance the global governance agenda specifically includes programs to discredit individuals and organizations that generate "internal political pressure" or "populist action" that fails to support the new global ethic. The ultimate objective, according to the source, being to suppress democracy.


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A US law, called the Logan Act, states explicitly that it is against the law for federal officials to attend secret meetings with private citizens to develop public policies. Although Bilderberg 2005 was missing one of its luminaries, US State Department official John Bolton who was testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the American government was well represented in Rottach-Egern by Alan Hubbard, assistant to the president for economic policy and director of the National Economic Council; William Luti, deputy under secretary of defence; James Wolfensohn, outgoing president of the World Bank and Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of state, an ideologue of the Iraq war and incoming president of the World Bank. By attending Bilderberg 2005 meeting, these people are breaking federal laws of the United States.

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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:13 AM
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10. A tangential question, if I may.
You post the snippet about the Logan Act - I found it interesting. Is this law the foundation of the suit against Cheney regarding the Enron meetings on the energy policy? Or does the public have a right to know about the discussions that lay the foundation for policies?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:49 AM
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2. Things to do today:
Got to get the Road Warrior Chariot out.
eMail Mel Gibson.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:11 AM
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8. Things to do today part 2:
Get serious about solar panels and getting off the grid!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:18 AM
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3. they will do all that they can to postpone the day
when they are hanging from lamp posts.

They are not fools, they see how they have mismanaged the planet and seek to coopt the environmental awareness that their greedy ineptness has created. They will have their tame activist, steering the effort of planetary survivial into channels they find to their advantage. All else will be branded terrorist.

Is there any way of breaking these people short of bringing down civilization?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:46 AM
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5. We can only hope.
The public has been bamboozled before and sure as hell is right now.

And the poor are more likely to tear each other to shreads anyway.

The rich know they're safe.

With luck some asteroid will change course and ram us back to the stone age. That or * antagonizes the world so much that we get invaded or nuked into radioactive charcoal.

One way or another, karma will get its due.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:04 AM
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7. Next time there is a meeting
Regardless if it is the Bohemians, Trilateral or Bilderberg, build a wall around the hotel/resort and the problem is solved.

Of course they'll use tame activitst. The same way they are using the Carnegie Endowement for International Peace who were present during Bilderberg as well. I think Andrew as an Anti-Imperialist would roll over in his grave, if he knew where his organisation is present.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:12 AM
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9. Exactly
The elites are control-freaks, they realize that grass-roots movements will erupt, so they want to control them and steer them in directions that will be the least damaging to their interests. If they can subvert ordinary democratic channels at the same time, that's a bonus. National regulation and policies are the biggest causes of annoyance in their global business operations.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:44 AM
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4. As long as the rich don't mind the rest of us committing suicide,
I could care less what they do.

All they DO do is go golfing. Apart from corporate book cooking, they've no skills worth a damn.

And once gas/oil prices get so high, China will be useless to them.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:01 AM
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6. imagine the very different circumstances had the oil men
not paid to get Reagan elected and reverse the govt investment in r & d in alternative energy sources that President Carter had kicked off with an urgency in response to the late 70s energy crisis.
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