Neocons are liars, that's all you really need to know

[libertypirate]

Has anything this sick sect of our society ever said to get what they want been found out true?

This is a fundamental question which speaks volumes to reality and the answer is no. I read a report on how much secret material this administration has created and its an astounding quantity of documents.

Now I don’t have a problem with that except there are people in our society who have questions and this Neocon fascist brigade is exploiting their power to avoid them. Unfortunately they can use the system in a manner that avoids its natural checks and balances; lucky us I guess. Well these people sort of make some strong arguments that certain events since the con artists sect of the republican political party has taken power are not what they seem to be.

I thought that in a democracy we had two independent things government and accountability. Not unlike anything else the government cannot be expected to police it self and as we see it’s clearly out of hand.

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[indepat]

1. Neocons are not always liars IMHO: sometimes they are devious,

sometimes mendacious, sometimes duplicitous, sometimes they talk in double-speak, sometimes they obfuscate, sometimes they mislead, sometimes they misspeak, sometimes they shade the truth, sometimes they avoid addressing the issue straight on, and yes, sometimes they prevaricate. But give them credit, whatever they do or say is always with a dash reichousness and sanctimoniousness.

[libertypirate]

6. Yes yes yes.... but it's always to hide the truth....

and make them come out smelling like roses. You know one thing I have learned since I have been w@@tching these freaks is what they label including themselves doesn't matter. It is how we see them besides what they say about each other that matters most.

[MaineYooper]

2. In a bizarre way, they're sort of telling the truth on the Iraq war now

by which, I mean that in the run up to the war, they screamed "WMD, WMD WMD!"

Now, of course that's evaporated, so they have to pull out the "well, would you rather Saddam was still in power?" defense.

So, as I say, in a strange way, they're now telling the truth, which is that the WMD never mattered. The Iraq war was going to happen no matter what.

Of course, they still won't admit that they were lying at the time...

[libertypirate]

7. That doesn't really help me sleep at night....

They are crafty with language and the subtle art of misdirection. That's all they really can do, the world is happening they can only push.

There is a difference now we are recording...

They can change their story all they want we are gathering the facts; let the facts tell the story. And we don't have to prove everything we need to prove easily that they are liars. And that at least the media is complicit with them.

You don't have to give answers to win. You just have to get people think about some things.

To remember how they were sold the war.

They need to read the Downing Memo. Specifically read the part about "fixing" the "evidence" around the desired policy.

Ask them if they were aware that more then two days after the release of the memo the American press had unilaterally and in unison left the information unreported; then only mentioned Iraq as the source for his polling issues. This wouldn't be a big deal but for the fact that the foreign press was going ape shit over it. If that wasn't bad enough the American press only spoke of it as a buried, barely noticeable piece of history to be swept away under the rug.

Luckily for us the foreign press exists, we can at least see there the news can still go for the jugular.

[lala_rawraw]

3. I prefer Parasites... has a nice flavor to it n/t

[stillcool]

4. Its drama...

and not very good. They all read from a script. Truth is not even in the equation....will it sell? Half the crap they get all bent out of shape about is so phoney-baloney...freedom fries! The truth is available to any who seek it.
http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

[Swamp Rat]

5. No, what we need to know is: "they" are alien lizards and they are here

for the oil.