I can't take it! Brownback calling a frozen embryo, "young human life"

[in_cog_ni_to]

Do they REALLY believe the crap they say? GEEZ! He must have said "young human life" 500 times during his rant. :eyes:

[Bluebear]

1. Did he manage to sneak in "up or down vote"? nt

[Coexist]

11. you mean upordownvote don't you!

[autorank]

2. Brownback is tripping. He wants to bar re-entry in to the USA for

those who have received stem-cell treatment overseas. Can you imagine the ignorance and vile nature of this person?

[MissB]

4. Are you serious?

Goodness. He may need a stem cell treatment himself, once he's done rubbing his two remaining brain cells together.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. *lol*

[autorank]

25. You're too generous on the number of brain cells!

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. I heard the wacko is going to run for prez.

He's been in Ohio making the rounds. :puke: Maybe THAT is who the religious RW wackos will support.

[powergirl]

14. I HOPE THAT FREAK RUNS - WE CAN HAVE SOME FUN WITH HIS NAME

Brownback is not a cool name to be brandishing on a yard sign. :evilgrin:

[autorank]

26. Bring him on!!! Yes, Brownback for President, "morans" uber allis

:puke:

[Zookeeper]

8. Are you serious?!?

I missed about an hour of the debate today.

[autorank]

27. It wasn't in today's debate. This was in the last session I think.

The bill barred US citizens from returning here if they had stem cell therapy abroad, I shit you not!

[Ripley]

10. How the hell would he know that?

Since when do I have to give my personal medical surgerical information to the government?

Vile shit! How about barring all those soldiers in Iraq from re-entry, after all they killed living breathing human beings. Or are embryos the new fetus and they have more value than certain live people?

[Gormy Cuss]

23. Just remember. HIPAA is unenforceable overseas

All it takes is for our government to cut an agreement requiring countries to report medical treatments on Americans abroad. Once our domestic health records are standarized in electronic form (the HHS secretary is prattling about this again) it will require only a minor change to HIPAA to make the data available and linkable to REAL ID for interests of national security, and if Homeland Security incidentally notices that you seem to have a medical condition that is treated with stem cell products in Holland, and you've made three trips to Holland this year, well..

Welcome to 1984.

[autorank]

28. Brownback want's your information!

Afterall, they had their sneaky language in the budget that let Republican Committee staff get IRS information. These people are gaga!
Just watch Brownback bloviate...he really thinks he understands science. It's both a laugh-fest and a horror show.

Brownback is what's wrong with Kansas!

[kikiek]

3. That drove me crazy too. Talk about a stretch! It just needs to be

nourished like all stages of life. Well how about after it is born you jackass? Then you dump it like a hot rock.

[Justitia]

6. They could grow up to be fine cannon fodder for the GOP! -eom

[Zookeeper]

7. DUH-Lay started the debate by calling...

cells in a petri dish "children." They certainly are masters at using buzz words!

As the mother of a child with Type 1 Diabetes, listening to these RW morons is making me nauseous!

I think we are running out of time to send a fax, but this concerned scientist site regarding stem cell research is excellent and informative:

http://www.stemcellfunding.org./fastaction/default.asp

[powergirl]

17. I have a 12 year old nephew with juvenile diabetes

He lives in South Carolina and his parents are die hard evangelical conservatives. They asked me (the crazy liberal aunt)and not their evangelical Christian crowd what they could to to convince the Republicans to promote stem cell research. I was nice, because my nephew is a great kid, and told them that they need to tell their politicos that if they (the evangelicals) aren't going to help their kid, then they will vote for a party who will. So, with their fingers pinching their nose, they are starting to vote for dems.

Is your child doing ok? I donate to jdf every year and I wish your child the very best. :hi:

[Zookeeper]

33. It does seem like conservatives seriously lack....

compassion until some difficulty affects them directly! It sounds like you handled it very well.

My daughter will be 13 next week and was diagnosed 9 years ago. She was very responsible and a very good sport about her diabetes until about a year ago. Now, she is so tired of dealing with it, her blood sugars are pretty out of control and she missed a lot of school this year due to feeling lousy and having ketones. We are taking back responsibility for her blood tests and record keeping to give her a break.

She was crying when we watched the House vote on the embryonic research bill.

When was your nephew diagnosed? Does he have a good support system?

[powergirl]

47. My nephew was diagnosed 5 years ago at age 7

He has a good support system and goes to jdf camp in the summers. The only thing that I wish his parents would do (I don't tell them these things because I don't want to be bossy - they've got enough to handle) is take him just a few miles north of where they live to North Carolina - to one of the great children's hospitals for routine evaluations, etc. I'm a mother of three (ages 10, 6, and 3) and I would want my kids to get the best help available. I live in Texas and I scour the Internet for information. I always send my sister-in-law information about insulin pumps, those new wristband things that have insulin (I don't know if they are available for kids or not, etc.).

Your daughter is just acting like any other 13 year old girl. They know more than you - OBVIOUSLY! And she is probably frustrated by all the extra machinations that she has to do just to get through the day. And, again, she's 13! Bless her heart and I'm so sorry that those jack ass Congressmen blindly vote for their self centered agendas while your daughter sobs. I wish I could punch them for you. I wonder if the JDF can arrange a massive demonstration of kids like my nephew and your daughter to march on the capitol and dare them to vote against stem cell research. Just an idea - but what do you think? I'd pick up my nephew and take him there myself!

:bounce:

[Zookeeper]

49. I'm all for your idea!

The JDF does choose a certain number of kids every year to send to Washington as representatives. But, I think a huge march (and let's include other people who could benefit from the research!) would be very effective. I will look into that possibility. :yourock:

[onenote]

40. so, Mr. Delay,can I take a tax deduction for unused embryos?

No child left behind, I say!

onenote

[whistle]

9. The neo-conservative/religious fundamentalist mentality...

.....bias and ignorance still hovers along the senate floor like a green smog obstructing what is seen or heard and confusing the understanding. This kind of juvenile talk must be eradicated with real science and clear explanations.

[SnowGoose]

12. Then before stem cells, shouldn't the GOPers in congress

outlaw in vitro fertilization?

Afer all, even if these 'extra' embryos aren't used for stem cell related work, they're going to be destroyed! How can the republicans allow this wholesale slaughter?

I mean, the real point is saving these precious 'lives' right?

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. They're confused.

It's OK for the labs/clinics to throw the embryos away, but g-d forbid they use the embryonic stem cells to try and save lives. Makes absolutely NO SENSE!

[barb162]

15. yes they really do believe this crap they say

[gizmo1979]

18. Have any of them actually said

why it's better to throw them away in the trash than use them for some good?How can we have a debate when they won't even look at the whole issue and explain themselves?I don't understand.

[Bluebear]

19. DeLay calls stem cell research "embryo harvesting"

Another way to frighten people.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. He also just said that the stem cell research will only lead to

CLONING! This man is NUTS!

[BiggJawn]

22. You'd think they'd support cloning.

just think, the Army would no longer miss recruitment quotas.

Or do can they only send creatures with "souls" to die overseas for oil and Campaign Contributions?

[Old and In the Way]

21. When did GOP become "God's Own Party"?

So much bullshit...like they really care about this issue. All that really matters is the $ they are transferring from the Treasury to their benefactors while they distract us with these non-issues.

[Disturbed]

24. Makes absolutely NO SENSE!

When frightwingnutz start making sense please notify Guiness Book. It will be an astounding event.

[Bouncy Ball]

29. Those frozen embryos have EIGHT CELLS.

EIGHT CELLS, people. That's right eight.

That's it.

They do not in any way, shape, or form resemble a human being. Nothing has formed except eight cells.

Sure, IF they are placed in the right environment and IF they attach to said environment and IF they start growing again and IF they make it THEN they have the possibility of becoming a baby.

But as it stands they are eight cells.

[not fooled]

52. yeah, every time I scratch my arm...

...I kill more than 8 cells. Geez, there went another life :eyes:

The only thing more pathetic than the 'pukes on this subject is the fact that millions of idiot 'Murkans believe this garbage. What has this country become???:crazy:

[yella_dawg]

30. So now we hold a funeral

every time someone is a week late starting their period?


Oh Lord! Here lies a noble tampon. May it rest in peace.

If you use the pads with wings, does that mean the child will be an angel in heaven?

[Solly Mack]

32. ROFLMAO

[LeftyMom]

34. *snicker*

http://www.geocities.com/preconceivedbabies/

[Gormy Cuss]

43. My word

You should warn people when you link to scary sites.

"Post-preconceived baby death trauma syndrome (PPBDTS)

...Most women suffer from inexplicable feelings of sadness and irritablity the week before their period....their feelings are due to their bodies' knowledge, on a deep, cellular, subconcious level, that their own precious preconceived baby has died! (The preconceived babies die within a day of coming out of the ovary, if the woman has neglected to provide them with the sperm they need to live.)"

So I guess this means girls should marry right after menarche to save themselves from years of adolescent grief.

[Kerrytravelers]

44. Preconceived Babies... OMG!

Because there are so many crazy people out there, I wasn't sure if these people were serious or kidding. However, this tipped me off:

[Gormy Cuss]

45. Joke today, republican framing tomorrow! n/t

[powergirl]

48. YOU ARE SO BAD!!!

:rofl: That is so awful that it is HILARIOUS. I just read your post to my husband and he is laughing right now. You are bad, bad, bad.:spank:

[SmokingJacket]

31. So it's better to throw them in the trash than to use their cells

to help other lives?

Or are they offering out their own uteri or the wombs of their spouses to bring all these embryos to life?

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Nope.

To the GARBAGE they go. Aren't the pro-life Christians just a wonderful lot? :eyes:

[Kerrytravelers]

35. Young human life that the rethugs don't seem to care about from Iraq.

WARNING: GRAPHIC















<http://bringhonorback.org/album.html>
From my friend Carl's site:







These people, who stand on the floor our founding fathers stood on, hiding behind their pious podiums, proclaiming their high regard for human life make me sick, for they don't care about human life, only increasing their financial portfolios and selling out the American people through artificial divisions and lies.

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. Shit.

Everytime I see those pics it just breaks my heart! :cry:

The repukes don't care about LIVING babies.....only could be babies in a freezer or wombs.

[Kerrytravelers]

38. I'm sorry. A bit dramatic, I know. I'm just so PISSED!

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. No. You weren't too dramatic.

THAT is exactly what the sheeple needs to see. The babies in Iraq that their cabal is killing.

It's heartwrenching, but then again, most of them don't have a friggin' heart now do they?

[chicagiana]

39. BAN multiple invitro fertilizations ...

OK then ...

If an embyo is a life, than we have to end the practice of multiple lab ferilizations that end with discard (literally thrown away) embryos.

The stem cell lines will be coming out of South Korea. We will be WAY behind. This is why the corporatists are switching on this issue. The biotech companies see they are being locked out of an entire generation of new medical treatments.

[mzmolly]

41. Interesting how an "embryo" is now a life, but an Iraqi child ???

:freak:

F-ers. :grr:

[SoCalDem]

46. "Pre-born Babies" that's what someone called them a few years ago

:puke:

Monty Python was not far off:eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

50. Earlier tonight

I told my parents about the bill that passed through Congress and my dad talked about it. I told him the story of a Korean woman who a few years ago or so was in a bad car wreck and earlier this year doctor's injected her with the medicine and she could walk again. So I brought this up and told how it's mostly used for diabetes and Alzheimer's etc. Plus it's not really saving lives if you just turn around and send them to war to die without protection and based on a lie. Total hypocritical.

[spanone]

51. Religion is trumping science in the US. Very scary.