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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:00 PM
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Bush Tells Moderate Repubs To Resist Pressure From Their
Edited on Tue May-24-05 04:01 PM by Jon8503
Constituents:

Does this say ignore the people & do as I want??

GREECE, New York (AP) -- President Bush, facing an uphill battle on Social Security in Congress, worked Tuesday to persuade moderate Republicans to resist pressure from constituents and support his ideas for changing the nation's retirement system.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/24/social.security/index.html
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:02 PM
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1. that's exactly what it means
Do you have the link to the rest of the article .
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:02 PM
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2. that's exactly what it says
Your constituents are of no import. DO AS I SAY, DAMMIT!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:04 PM
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5. The arrogance of a Silverspoon Sociopath...
seems to have no bounds.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:05 PM
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7. Silverspoon Sociopath--I LOVE that!
Did you come up with it? :thumbsup:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:07 AM
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56. Wow!
I've been calling him a sociopath for some time (because he is) and I've mentioned that he was born with a silverspoon up his nose. This is the perfect amalgamation of that! I love it!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:16 PM
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37. That's what the *reporter* said, not the President.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:47 AM
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72. Welcome to a dictatorship
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:03 PM
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3. That's pretty much what it says.
That is his prevailing attitude towards U.S. citizens, voters and constituents. We are nothing more than "focus groups" to be ignored. Fucking bastard.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:04 PM
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4. "Resist pressure from their constituents"??
Ummm... if you're in Congress, aren't your constituents the people who hired you and who are relying on you to further the policies you favor? And if you don't, won't you find your sorry, Bushlicking ass out on the street after the next election? And what about this democracy thing? Or has that become just too in-freaking-convenient for President Rainman?

:mad:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:06 PM
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8. Rainman was a genius in one aspect.
The Silverspoon Sociopath has no redeeming qualities.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:22 PM
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13. Constituents are also the ones paying Congress and Bush
They work for us, or at least they are supposed to.

Bush is just a Connecticut preppy cheerleader, born and reared in riches and priviliges. Send him back to the Imperial Pig Farm upon Crawford.
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:15 PM
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68. Yes, but with Diebold, who needs constituents!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:49 PM
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39. Hmmmm.....if pressure from constituents is no longer a factor...
Does that mean Bush is certain of the outcome of elections eighteen months before they happen? And I thought I wouldn't get any more dots to connect for election fraud.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:11 AM
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58. There will always be more dots
they love what they did and just like little children, they can't help but drop hints to show how cool it is! Assholes.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:09 AM
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57. Naw
if you're in Congress, your loyalty is to your corporate contributors. Where in the world did you get the idea that they represented us! That's preposterous. That would be, you know, like democracy or something.

:sarcasm: duh!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:05 PM
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6. More proof * could care less about the will of the people.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:38 PM
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18. I could see that when he was govenor of Texas.
He appeared to have utter contempt for the people of the state. What amazed me was the fact that all those fundies thought he was so wonderful. I think it has something to do with sufferin' and sinnin'. A desire to be punished by and authoritarian figure.I will probably be pondering that one for years.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:07 PM
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9. George *loves* democracy.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:21 PM
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29. As long as that "Democracy" Is Fake and in Iraq!(he loves it)
He hates DEMOCRACY because he can't spell it!
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:08 PM
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10. Un-fricking-believable!
I don't think I've ever heard a president say "resist the pressure from your constituents" to a congressman...who the hell does he/she work for anyway?!?!

That's un-American!
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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:10 PM
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11. He said that?!
Geez, I was unaware that the president is the one that elects Congressmen and not the citizens of their retrospective states. I knew I shouldn't of fallen asleep in American Government. *eg*
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:12 PM
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12. OMG!! I hate him...I hate him...I hate him...I hate him...I hate him...
Is it possible that there is a bigger asshole on the face of this earth??

"I'm the president, do as I say! If you don't, I'll tell my daddy! Waaaaaa!!! Karl...they're being mean to me."

What an absolute, ignorant, hate filled excuse for a human being.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:12 AM
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59. Right now or ever?
My answer would be different depending on that.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:26 PM
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14. Screw you and your constitutents!
Gimme, Gimme, Gimme

After all he can't be re-elected, but it seems as though he WOULD care if the GOP maintained control of the congress in 2006/08 - 2020
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:28 PM
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15. Sooo...Senate majority means they get to vote judges up/down..but
people who voted the majority in are not important? Is there a disconnect here? :shrug:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:32 PM
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16. Seems like their has been a "disconnect" for quite some time...
The shrubster just cannot grasp the concept of a government "for the people and by the people." The people of this country are irrelevant in Georgie's eyes...it is all about getting what he wants, no matter what he has to do to get it.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:35 PM
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17. Fridays Child, yes I did.
In fact I tm d the monikor just for fun.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:45 PM
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21. maybe it is the other way around Mr. Bush (see his comments)



......."I fully recognize some in Washington, you know, don't particularly want to address this issue," Bush said in an auditorium at Greece Athena Middle and High School. I recognize some of them say, `Well, this is, this is a partisan thing. You know, we don't want to make one party look good at the expense of another."

Moderate Republicans like those Bush targeted here in New York could end up being the swing votes he needs to get Congress to approve his ideas for addressing the system's solvency problems and let younger workers set up their own retirement accounts.

"I think more and more people recognize there's a problem and people are going to say `Go do something about it.' And those who obstruct reform -- no matter what party they're in -- will pay a political price, in my judgment," Bush said.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:40 PM
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19. I hope that the redneck, dittohead FReeper morons
hear about this and realize just how little Bush really gives a shit about democracy or the will of the people.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:15 AM
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60. That would require some thinking
and last time I checked, that was kind of in short supply over in Freeperland. I'll admit I don't go to that place often because I can fill up my appall-o-meter just by reading LBN and Buzzflash but it was the bastion of stupidity the last time I was there.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:45 PM
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20. resist pressure of their constituents????!!!!
:rofl: He is fucking crazy. He has already lost the Social Security fight. He's finished. No one supports it AND our Senior Citizens VOTE!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:48 PM
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22. It's all about HIS ass, not their up for re-election ones.
Personally, I'd love for McCain and Kyl to take his advice--and I know at least one of them will!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:48 PM
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23. No need to worry now, that's making them resist even more!
The civil war inside the GOP has begun....

"In the letter, Mr. Voinovich said that while he had been "hesitant to push my views on my colleagues" during his years in the Senate, he felt "compelled to share my deep concerns" about Mr. Bolton's nomination.

"In these dangerous times, we cannot afford to put at risk our nation's ability to successfully wage and win the war on terror with a controversial and ineffective ambassador to the United Nations," Mr. Voinovich wrote. He urged colleagues to "put aside our partisan agenda and let our consciences and our shared commitment to our nation's best interests guide us.""


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/24/politics/24cnd-bolton.html?hp&ex=1116993600&en=600f3567e8a7230f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

A quote comes to mind for my own use

"Governor Tarkin...The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:51 PM
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24. "Serve Me! Fuck the people!"
Who's your master?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:56 PM
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25. Sure -- perfectly safe to do just tht with the voting machines on
their side.

"Who cares what you think?" taken to its logical conclusion.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:58 PM
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26. Sure -- perfectly safe to do just tht with the voting machines on
their side.

"Who cares what you think?" taken to its logical conclusion.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:58 PM
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27. Sure -- perfectly safe to do just tht with the voting machines on
their side.

"Who cares what you think?" taken to its logical conclusion.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:17 AM
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61. That actually was worth saying three times
However, I'm sure it's just that the server burped. :)
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #61
71. Using Diebold Technlogy, No Doubt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:18 PM
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28. Bush is NUTS!
When will the people finally say...enough of this fascist buSHIT?

I'm sending the link on to my senators!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:22 PM
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30. Bush doesn't care anymore!
He knows the voting machine operatives are committing fraud, he'd sooner watch everyone going to jail(including maybe even him) before he gives up any of his power.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/11489971.htm

Look at it this way, GOP senators are really waking up...And they are finding the REAL reality isn't pretty or colorful like Bushitler's reality.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:28 PM
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31. Why should a dictator care what the people think?
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:46 PM
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43. exactly !



"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed … were not, as some assumed, inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees."
Rudolf Hoess,
the SS commandant at Auschwitz.

One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and
torture rooms and rape rooms."—Bush, press availability in Monterrey,
Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. whoa!
That quote sent shivers up my spine.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:04 PM
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67. I hope you have Freespeechtv because they
are showing another Shocking and Awful, The World Tribunal !
It is a must see and share.
http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/genx.php?name=home
04:30:20 pm EST 05/25 The World Tribunal on Iraq TV14
Season finale for Shocking and Awful, series by Deep Dish TV
hiley
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #67
70. Sorry I don't I did save the Moyers speech to my desktop.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:19 AM
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62. It's always a bad thing when Dubya the wonder moron, opens his yap
Edited on Wed May-25-05 06:19 AM by tavalon
One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and
torture rooms and rape rooms."—Bush, press availability in Monterrey,
Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004

Unless they're ours! addendum, May 25, 2005
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:31 PM
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32. "This is a partisan thing."
What the hell???? Since when did ensuring that people have a safety net in place during their later years, become a partisan issue? And if it is a partisan issue, why the hell isn't he working to ensure that it's not one?

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:34 PM
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33. He's a dictator. What do you expect him to say? (nt)
Peace.


Let's RAP
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:51 PM
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34. What this means is, that all those letters and calls to congerss
critters, is starting to pay off! The natives are restless and der Fuhrer can feel it in his lazy bones! We need to turn up the heat and write or call our reps every time King George tries stampede another intolerable act through congress!

Taxation without representation is UNAMERICAN!
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:00 PM
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35. I had to wipe my glasses in disbelief and actually look up the word...
"constituents" because I did not believe that Bush said this.

"President Bush, facing an uphill battle on Social Security in Congress, worked Tuesday to persuade moderate Republicans to resist pressure from the citizens who are represented in a government and support his ideas for changing the nation's retirement system."

http://www.onelook.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/bware/dofind.cgi?word=constituents
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:00 PM
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36. bush tells repukes in Congress
"FUCK THE PEOPLE, YOU'RE HERE TO DO MY BIDDING, BITCHES!!!!"

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:47 PM
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38. Heil.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:54 PM
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40. But pResident B*h...What about a government FOR THE PEOPLE?
Idiot! Tell the moderate Repubs to ignore their Constituents?
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:11 PM
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41. the divine right of kings
followed by regicide
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:19 PM
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42. Inane
Clearly the GOP is drunk on power.

""I think more and more people recognize there's a problem and people are going to say `Go do something about it.' And those who obstruct reform -- no matter what party they're in -- will pay a political price, in my judgment," Bush said."

Reminds me of that F911 secene at that fundraising ball. Bush is clearly with the "have-mores".
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:21 AM
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63. He's drunk on something! n/t
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:55 PM
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45. I hope his threat against Republicans backfires on him
"I think more and more people recognize there's a problem and people are going to say `Go do something about it.' And those who obstruct reform -- no matter what party they're in -- will pay a political price, in my judgment," Bush said.


I hope he becomes a pariah that no one wants to be assocated with. I wouldn't trust Bush to take out my garbage -- and he's making threats against elected representatives?

Wow. The guy can still shock me.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:58 PM
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46. Bush is pissing of the centrists and moderates BIG TIME
And I'm loving it!! Notice the coverage this week? Seems that the Congress is getting a bit nervous about the mid-term elections.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:10 PM
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47. If idiocy was a water molecule, * would be an ocean.
It's almost like . . . just when you think "This is it. I SWEAR he can't get any more pseudo-regal, more arrogant, more BRAZEN than that!" . . . Caligula goes right ahead and tops himself. And the Dumbericans just sit and freaking take it with thumbs up their asses and eyes glued to the TV set to see if the weird-lookin' rawker dude's gonna win American Idol.

In the old societies, people like Lancelot Link would be blade, noose or firing squad fodder; or at the very least exiled.

See, that's the problem. They do quite rotten things, but none of the things they do are flat-out rotten ENOUGH - rotten enough to where the middle class FINALLY says "NO more". It's like they're collective Foghorn Leghorns who stand close enough to the leash line to be able to whack the dog's ass with a 2x4, but never step over it to get mauled. That would take something like a draft, $4.00 a gallon gas, stop taxing the rich, or give corporations freedom to do whatever they damned well please at the expense of whoever they feel necessary. Wait, that last one is pretty much happening already, isn't it?
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:14 PM
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48. Is this what he actually said?
Or is this what the CNN reporter said about Dubya's comments. Its not the same thing.

Like I said in another thread, there's plenty to be mad at Bush about, but this ain't one of them.

(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3721897#3723487)

Later,
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:42 PM
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49. It doesn't really say
that he said those words. You're right. On the other hand, it's pretty amazing that CNN would print such and inflammatory headline for this story. Do they smell blood in the water?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:56 PM
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50. He's really starting to show his true colors. Wait until he takes away the
freepers guns.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:11 AM
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51. "RESIST...PRESSURE........from your CONSTITUENTS??????"
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:34 AM
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52. yeah sure.. That way they can have the same high poll numbers as shrub
Who wants to board a sinking ship?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:35 AM
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53. Resist pressure from the people who elected you and do as I say.
:nuke:
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lwin Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:42 AM
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54. Unreal
Ignore the people, because they don't know what's good for them????

Well, maybe he has a point. After all, they voted for the Chimp.
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:10 AM
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55. He plays up the good ole' boy image to get the vote
of the "American people," and I think he's said that the American people will make the right decisions if they have the facts.

Suddenly, the American people are stupid and don't know which end's up???

flip-flop, flip-flop
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 07:11 AM
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64. Just another reason
to believe that the electronic "voting" machine companies have assured the junta that they need not fear the People anymore, its in the bag.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 08:08 AM
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65. Next he'll be hitting the Kindergartens
And telling them the scary story of 2042..........boooohoooo

Go tell you parents about my plan....throw a fit if you have to......
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 10:19 AM
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66. Ding!Ding!Ding!
You got it,Toyota!:wtf:
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 07:45 PM
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69. BUSH did not say this...the reporter did!!!
Edited on Wed May-25-05 07:48 PM by sojourner
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:26 AM
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73. Bush is a bad bad man..........
that doesn't care about anything or anyone but his precious base. I'll bet just about anyone if this stunt doesn't work he tries executive order. Who wants to bet? Any takers?????
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