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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:20 PM
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Why do posts about protesting the media only get about 10 responses?
Edited on Tue May-24-05 01:21 PM by Melodybe
These are the enablers, they are one of our biggest problems, why is there so little interest in protesting the media?

It is my dream that we organize a Millions Agaist the Media March on NY, DC, Atlanta, and San Francisco. I personally want to protest CNN's headquarters in Atlanta.

Why aren't we organizing now? Why aren't DUers responding?
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:22 PM
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1. Personally, I believe in boycotts over marches....
massive boycotts of their advertisers will hit them where it hurts...they can ignore marches.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:25 PM
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4. All of the "news" networks ratings are down but they still whore for Bush

it's time to march.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:27 PM
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6. Someone is always boycotting something
I don't think they are effective in general.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:30 PM
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10. Well, we have had success boycotting advertisers,...
,...but, only pertaining to particular individuals or shows/programs.

I just really, REALLY wish we had an alternative major news outlet we could throw our weight behind.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:23 PM
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2. CNN should be picketed first.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:52 PM
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16. absolutely--I read a comment from a CNN exec
they HATE getting picketed more than letter, boycotts or anything else.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:24 PM
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3. I must not have seen the OP. Cuz I will never stop pointing the finger
at the corporate media who enables the fascist agenda of BushInc.

Unless we deal with the GOP control over most of this nation's broadcast media and most of the voting machines, we can kiss any semblance of democracy goodbye.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:27 PM
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5. Dunno.
Personally speaking, I'd rather take our protests against war, for choice, against BushCO's privatization of SocSec, etc TO THE MEDIA.

IOW ---> placing greater pressure on them to give us our due attention by protesting on their doorsteps.

Just my preference.

Doesn't mean I'm not pissed at how the media has become so cheap and inadequate, and fails to fulfill its obligation to inform people. I email them at least once weekly bitching about this inaccuracy or that lost opportunity and so forth.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:28 PM
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7. Because protests don't work! What's your next question?
You think that conducting a march that no one will see and that the media won't cover is going to do anything? Besides giving you blistered feet and the false sense that you've done something useful?

You need to do real work. Push politicians, even the Pink Tutu Democrats in Congress, to work to restore the Equal Time and Editorial Response requirements for broadcasters. Restore the limits of the 1960's to companies that own broadcast stations - no single company owning more than 5 AM, 5 FM and 5 TV stations, and none of them in the same market. Insist that the monopoly laws be enforced and strengthened, to break up the media monopolies.

Not as showy as sweating out on the sidewalks and having a big ol' party under banners, but unlike protests, this would work.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:29 PM
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8. Protests, en masse, and continual (which takes patience) may work
I'm willing to discuss the concept.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:29 PM
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9. Because practical action is not as much fun as reveling in martyrdom.
It seems that a lot of us here--and some of the loudest ones at that--are more interested in playing Joan of Arc than actually doing anything.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:31 PM
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11. I agree with getme. I think cancelling subs & writing LTTEs is
a far more effective way protest--it hits them in their pocketbooks & you're telling them exactly why. Besides, it would be inexact to say we're against all media--certainly there are some fabulous muckrakers and truthtellers out there and we'd be foolish to be against them. Better to find a way to encourage them--and explain to media outlets whom you support & why, and whom you don't support & why not.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:34 PM
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12. I agree with you. People here would rather beat up on the Dem Party.
They should go after the "root" of the problem.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:41 PM
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13. The media is one of the roots of our problems, the war, SS, NCLB, Busco's
agenda all stem from this.

Just because they won't cover it doesn't mean it won't get covered, if a million folks block the streets in NY, DC, Atlanta, SF it will get noticed. We have the blogs, we have the internet, just because they don't cover it doesn't mean local papers and the internet won't.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:49 PM
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14. Sometimes I dislike DU, when talks of protesting the media are ignored
it really makes me feel like DU is full of posers. BTW this has nothing to do with me being the poster, I have seen other posters with the same ideas also ignored.

THIS AND THE VOTING MACHINES ARE OUR 2 BIGGEST PROBLEMS UNTIL DUERS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

DAMN!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:52 PM
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15. I believe that the media should be held accountable for
their treasonous acts! They have helped create this madness! It is their ethical duty to protect us from government propoganda. Instead, they have only protected themselves. IMO, they are a disgrace to their profession.


peace.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 01:53 PM
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17. Somebody swing by and pick me up
I'll march.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:33 PM
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18. My point was proved yet again with this post.
WE HAVE TO START PROTESTING THE MEDIA!!!!
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:36 PM
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20. You lost me
Edited on Tue May-24-05 02:37 PM by ohio_liberal
You wrote, "we organize a Millions Agaist the Media March on NY, DC, Atlanta, and San Francisco. "

I'm all for it. I need a ride. I don't drive anymore.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:38 PM
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21. Not you dude, you care, you rock!
If you can get to MS, I'll drive the rest of the way:)
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:44 PM
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23. Aight
We're good then. :)

I know that one crazy lady with a yard sign in BFE eastern Ohio doesn't get anyone's attention. We gotta get together, make noise, be seen.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:33 PM
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19. I've been watching the media closely for about ten years now
They can't be changed. Not by protest, marches, boycotts, whatever. Any more than you could be changed into an avid Bush-Cheney-Frist-Limbaugh supporter if someone had a protest march in front of your house. Forget it.

The media is Republican. That's what they are and what they want to be. And like all Republicans, they would rather defer to the reactionaries on their right than even the Democrats on their left, let alone the Progressives to the left of them.

Here's the two things you can do:

1) Mock them. As if they have the credibility of the proverbial 'used-car salesman'. They are in fact the 21'st century incarnation of the used-car salesman. As if they are the ethical equivalent of an investment cold-caller of widows on Social Security. They're worse than that because those people at most help to destroy the lives of just a few people at a time with their sleazy schtick, while modern cable 'journalists' betray tens of millions of people on a constant loop.

2) Disavow them. Leave them. Let their audience dwindle to the point where repeats of 'The Beverly Hillbillies' would draw more viewers. They have forsaken the large number of news-hungry, politically-oriented progressive thinkers to cater to the dull, sneering loudmouths of the right, who will always fall in behind the most rabid reinforcement of their absurd ideologies that they can find. CNN and their ilk are too stupid to realize that unless they trump Fox on the right, becoming even more reactionary than Fox is, they'll get nothing from those kinds of ugly, irrational people. And even if they did try, it would only lead to a game of hopscotch into the right-wing sewer of evil.

So leave the betrayers, the betrayers of journalism, of America, of honesty and of decency, to their own depraved corruption. Stop in occasionally for a quick reminder to mock them and anyone who listens to them with mirth.

They sold us out. Now we sell them out.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:40 PM
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22. We haven't protested the media in the last ten years
how do you know it won't work?

We have to do something. They are loosing viewers left and right and they haven't changed their tune one fucking bit.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:47 PM
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24. We at DU have been beating this drum for YEARS
and sadly, have gotten little traction until lately. It's a frustrating subject... At least there has been some breakthrough lately.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:49 PM
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25. We just gotta get some big names involved, we should write to
Randi, Al, Boxer, Conyers, Micheal Moore, etc and get them on board. Then maybe folks here will be more receptive.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:55 PM
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26. Randi IS onboard.. and more are getting on daily.. The problem is
that no republican will EVER vote to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.. They spent 35 years UNDOING it.. Its demise is what has allowed them to control the message.

People have been listening and watching one-sided commentary for a whole generation, and then some..so anything different will be shocking to them, so I do not anticipate any sea-changees.

Another wrinkle to the mess is that corporate media is so pervasive, and it costs SO much to get a toehold in the market.

When the take-over started, way back when, there were still hundreds of independent(family owned) newspapers and magazines...and there was no satellite tv, and barely any cable.

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:38 PM
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27. Yeah I heard her say that earler, that's not what I meant though
start organizing and get them on board to promote and hype the marches.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:13 PM
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28. 28 now
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