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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:07 PM
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Biggest story everyone ignored this week: GOP wants TWO Veeps
No one responded to me so I'm posting again.

Let's say Congress passes the proposed law creating a Second Vice President who lives outside Washington. Who will the parties put up?

Dems: Clark-Dean-Kerry

GOP: Bush-Cheney-Powell

I think this is more serious than anyone at DU has taken it. This is how the GOP wants to create excitement around Bush. They need something considering we have Clark.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:10 PM
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1. WTF?
Link?
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:00 PM
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14. Link
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:12 PM
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2. What the hell are you talking about??
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:13 PM
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3. This is just stupid
Even if some idiot Republican suggested this, it would require a constitutional ammendment. two-thirds of the Senate and House and three quarters of all states to ratify.

Therefore: never going to happen.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:21 PM
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23. How many votes does it take to amend Constitutional Amendments?
I would support it if it limited the Vice Presidents and President to a single 6-year term, required them to be elected only by popular vote, and abolished the Selectoral College.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:14 PM
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4. does ythis relate to the re-thinking of the line of succession?
:shrug:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:17 PM
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5. first I've heard of this
does it go along with Hatch's desire to undo the sunset provisions of the Patriot Act?

or the CA recall?

or the desire to change the rules so that a non-native American can be president?

or the Texas redistricting?

or the anthrax killer?

why do they want two v.p.s?

why wouldn't this require a constitutional convention?

if they're gonna call a constitutional convention, can we also put the electoral college on the table?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:21 PM
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6. Ignored because no one saw it
Are you sure YOU did? If so, how 'bout a link, bub?

Eloriel
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:00 PM
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15. Link
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:05 PM
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19. This isn't about 2 VP's, it's about disaster planning
Your topic is misleading

Senate panels examine scenarios for presidential succession

By Susan Davis, CongressDaily

Constitutional scholars offered a morbid series of worst-case scenarios that could disrupt the established presidential line of succession at Tuesday's joint hearing of the Senate Rules Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee.


Senate Rules Chairman Trent Lott, R-Miss., acknowledged that the last time Congress passed legislation regarding the line of succession was in 1947, in response to the death of President Franklin Roosevelt.

"Since those 1947 hearings, no substantive legislation has been passed to deal with the gaps in the current presidential succession system, " he said.


Professor Akhil Reed Amar of Yale Law School, who specializes in constitutional law, argued that the current Presidential Succession Act is "a disastrous statute, an accident waiting to happen. It should be repealed and replaced."


http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0903/091703cdam1.htm
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:30 PM
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7. huh?
No one responded to me so I'm posting again.

Obviously, we are getting dumber as the week has gone by. We shouldn't have responded this time either.
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:01 PM
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16. Link
Didn't see it here originally. But here's another.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0903/091703cdam1.htm
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:32 PM
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8. Did you mean to say two "peeps?"
maybe two creeps? two $^%&@@#$$# bleeps? they are too cheaps?

surely you didn't mean two veeps?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:34 PM
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9. !
:tinfoilhat:
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ElkHunter Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:37 PM
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10. I heard something about this...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-03 09:39 PM by ElkHunter
...doesn't it have something to do with a recommended Amendment because of 9/11? If I have it right, it's a proposal to have a second veep not in Washington to take office in case the president, the vice president, and members of congress are killed in an attack on Washington. Don't be too quick to dismiss this. The Constitution was amended rather quickly after the JFK assisination because it was thought there were flaws in the line of succession.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:38 PM
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11. I thought we already had a shadow government in the wings,
just in case. :shrug:
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:43 PM
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12. Poppy wants to be his ittle boy's VP - isn't that sweet
Poppy wants to come out of the shadows. He thinks he's gonna live forever.

I guess John Hinkley, Jr. will be getting his parole soon.:scared:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 09:45 PM
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13. What story?
Nutball Republicans float Constitutional amendments all the time. I was watching CNN shortly after the 1994 Republican rout of Congress and there was no fewer than 15 amendments on the House floor. Who's pitching this one?
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:02 PM
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17. Link
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:04 PM
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18. Why didn't you just put this little story in your original post
instead of plastering the link all over the place?
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:11 PM
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20. It's certainly something to ponder -
but I doubt that it's going to happen soon if at all. Right now there are such worse things to worry about. Nothing the nutcrew could do would surprise me, I must say.

Interesting link, thanks.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:12 PM
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21. There has been no Democratic candidate selected yet
nor have any of them selected a running mate.

This whole topic is bullshit. The discussion in Washington was about who would assume office in the case of an attack on Washington where both the President and VP were killed.

And what the fuck does this have to do with Clark anyway? Jesus Christ.:eyes:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 10:14 PM
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22. Much ado about nothing
With every Congressional term, a dozen or more Constitutional Amendments are proposed, some of which are even more ridiculous than this one.
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