Fundie Arcade Games??? BBC - "Christians Purge Video Game Demons"

[DistressedAmerican]

Across the pond they must think we are fucking nuts!

Anyone else remember "the Simpson's epidose where they are playing "Billy Graham's Bible Blasters"?

"Convert The Heathens Bart! You Just Winged Him And Made Him A Unitarian! Oh No! The Gentle Bahai!"

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4534835.stm

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Christians purge video game demons

By Matthew Davis
BBC News, Washington


Christian developers want to provide alternatives to graphic violence

The Devil, they say, has all the best tunes. Until now he has also had the video games market sewn up.


Christian developers want to provide alternatives to graphic violence

From the demonic violence of Doom to the sinister Resident Evil series, many of today's most successful titles draw inspiration from dark places.

But a growing band of Christian game developers are taking a stand.

Reverend Ralph Bagley, 41, is a man with a mission. "I have always been a gamer since the days of Pong and Pacman," he told BBC News.

[aden_nak]

1. The mind reels at the prospect of just how BAD those games will be.

I mean, check out this screenshot.



Ahhhh, 1996. It's good to see ya!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

27. 1996 bahahahha

:spray:

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. I am still hurting from the Christian version of D&D *retch*

[noonwitch]

72. They had a christian version?

All I ever heard from fundie christians about it was how D&D is from Satan, and it is how Satan gets inside people's heads. They expanded their diatribe to all fantasy games.

[SteppingRazor]

3. Praise the Lord-ah

It's about time we exorcised the demons from these hi-anus video games, brothers and sisters. They are, after all, responsible for everything from Columbine to Marilyn Manson. Praise Jayzus!

Can I get an Amen? Oh, Lord-ah!

[Lars39]

4. Couldn't even come up with an original name: "N'Lightning"?

Isn't that kinda like NStorm?

[DistressedAmerican]

5. Found This With A Little Googling. Interesting!

http://news.crossmap.com/story/in-christian-video-games-bibles-are-weapons-of-choice/179.htm

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In Christian Video Games, Bibles Are Weapons of Choice

Posted by cassie on Friday, June 27 @ 6:40am GMT

When the ad for a "Christian video game" crossed my desk, at first I thought it was a joke. Perhaps the quick-witted folks at The Wittenburg Door or The Onion were putting me on, or someone had finally decided to market "Billy Graham's Bible Blasters," the fictitious game featured on an episode of "The Simpsons" a few years back.

Remember the episode shortly after Maude Flanders' untimely death where Bart goes next door to visit the normally shiny-happy Christian Rod and Todd Flanders to cheer them up?

It's always been one of my favorite ''Simpsons'' episodes--a clever idea and a biting bit of religious commentary--but one I thought was purely the product of the writer's fertile imagination.

Not so, apparently. With a little investigation, I discovered a whole world of "Christian" video games where Bibles, or at least the Word of God, are the weapons of choice.

-more at the link-

Read the rest it is enlightening!

DEMON! I ORDER THEE OUT!

[Kitsune]

6. They tried this on the NES...

...and created some of the worst games in the history of mankind, which nobody remembers except to laugh at.

[Dob Bole]

7. Those were terrible...

I had one of them. The only fun one was when you were Noah, and you grabbed a bunch of animals and got to knock them out with hay and stuff. That was mildly amusing when I was 8.

The others frequently make top 20 "worst video games" lists.

[LeftyChristian]

8. Don't see the problem here

If you don't like them...don't buy them! Why the need to make fun of Christians at every turn? For once they are not out to shut down the gaming industry. They are offering an alternative, that they feel fills a hole in the market. If it sucks, they will go out of business.

I see threads on DU about how fundies are boycotting this or that or trying to get something shutdown or removed from the market. Those types of Christians are wrong. This time there are Christians actually doing something positive without forcing their beliefs on the general public...and they are still ridiculed?

I guess it's damned if you do and damned if you don't for some.

[Davey Crockett]

9. I agree. I hate to say

it but many of the posts at du smack of religius bigotry. Especially all the ones about the Rapture. I don't believe in the Rapture but I don't feel compelled to go to a political web site and ridicule someone's belief just because I don't agree with them. Bigotry is the brother to Racism. Hating someone for their spiritual beliefs is just as bad as hating them for their skin color.

[DistressedAmerican]

10. I Never Had A Word To Say About These Folks Until They Started Trying To

shove their God into every corner of American Life. Sorry you find that bigotry. I find their intollerance of the beliefs of others worthy of ridicule and scorn.

I will continue to come to this political website and do so until their unwelcome forced conversion of America STOPS!

They created all of this tension about religion and politics and now they cry persecuted when others respond. Give me a break.

Happens that way a lot around here with the freeper crowd as well!


On edit: I find it VERY interesting that you recently chose to join a site you find so full of religious bigots!

[Davey Crockett]

13. I think there is a difference

between criticizing someone's actions and someone's religous beliefs. Would you be comfortable ridiculing someone's beliefs even though they don't engage in actions that are wrong? As I said before, I don't believe in the rapture, but there are perhaps others on this board who do and I think their beliefs deserve some respect. We shouldn't stereotype people based on their religous beliefs.

[DistressedAmerican]

14. I Do Not See The Difference Since Their Actions Involve Forcing Their

beliefs on others.

These people openly state that when the Rapture comes they will be going up and I will be left here to suffer and eventually burn.

If that is not ridiculing MY beliefs I do not know what is!

On top of that they are trying to enshrine parts of their religious beliefs as law. That crosses the line. Period. I will keep pushing them right back over it until they stop crossing it.

I'll ask you straight out. Why should I respect their beliefs when they do not respect mine?

If you mainly are worried about folks here being offended by my complaints against the fundies, they are more than welcome to come to the debate. However, I have been here for a long time and have seen few if any defend the notion of the rapture.

If I were them, I'd be more worried about the leaders of my church allying themselves with right wing politics and making MY religious beliefs a subject of political discussions.

I'll RESUME respecting their religious beliefs when they BEGIN respecting mine!

[Fone Book]

19. Yeah, its like Lawrence Fishburne said in "Boyz in the Hood"

"Don't respect anyone that doesn't respect you."

[LeftyChristian]

22. I am speaking only of the Christian game company

and I wonder where they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? If you don't like the games, which is your opinion and should be respected, then don't buy them.

Doesn't seem too difficult to grasp, but if you choose to paint with a broad brush then paint away! No skin off of my teeth.

I did have another question for you. If you don't believe in the rapture or that you will be left here on earth to suffer and eventually burn, why does it matter to you what they think will happen?

If you really want to be offended, google the LDS church or Mormons. They believe that everyone is going to hell (especially Christians) except for them. By the way, they are the fastest growing "church" in the world.

Fundies don't speak for me or my faith, don't let them get YOUR panties in a wad! IF, big IF, the day comes that fundies try to make our country a theocracy there will be many many Christians that will oppose them. Give the silent majority of Christians a little credit.

[Momgonepostal]

24. Keep in mind Lefty...

there are Mormons on DU as well. Do you see the irony in you complaining about criticism of Christians and then turning around and criticizing other Christians?

[LeftyChristian]

30. If mormons were Christains I would agree with you

Check out their theology and you'll find that they believe that the men will become gods while the women will be pregnant for eternity populating the planet that their god husband will eventually save. Jesus Christ is their blueprint, but is no better or worse than members of the LDS church.

And yes, both you and I will go to hell according to the LDS church. They are brainwashed and it is a cult on par with the Branch Davidians and Jonestown. Mormons make the fundies that are so talked about on DU look like hell raising atheists.

Tombstone me if you want, but if people on here are going to bash fundies and include all Christians in that group, then the mormons should be fair game as well, no?

[DistressedAmerican]

32. So You Have An Issue With Non-Christians? I'm Confused.

[LeftyChristian]

36. No, not at all...

I have an issue with those who LIE about being Christian. Why do you think I am here? I just get frustrated reading threads that paint ALL Christians with a broad brush.

There are many many Christians who do try to live their lives according to what Jesus taught. It is unfortunate that they do not have the public's ear and it is even more more unfortunate that they are herded into the bunch with fundies by a narrow minded few.

You never answered my question about why it is so important to you what fundies think of the fate of your soul when you don't believe that?

Also to reverse the tables on you do you have an issue with Christians?

[DistressedAmerican]

37. Personally, I Could Care Less. I Was Simply Pointing Out

that you are demanding respect for the beliefs of people who do not respect mine. It is hypocritical.

Now, why don't you go ask these folks why it is so important to them what I think of the fate of their souls? Or the rapture or anything else for that matter.

You demand respect for religious beliefs from us but none from them.

And your point about Mormons is that they "LIE about being Christian"?

I just want to understand how exactly this works.

Respect for religious beliefs as long as they agree with YOURS?

[LeftyChristian]

38. I was attempting to stay within the scope of the article and what it said

I wasn't demanding anything. I am stating that if they want to create an alternative game without trying to remove violent video games from shelves then what does it matter. Bottom line, they are not infringing on anyone's right to create any type of game they want. They are offering an alternative. If it makes you feel better to label them as fundies and make fun of them, then don't let me stand in your way.

recap: Christian gamers want to create and sell non violent video games as an alternative. You labeled them as fundies and didn't want them cramming their religion down your throat. I simply stated that if you don't like them, don't buy them.

Easy. You are polevaulting over ant turds and trying to manufacture an issue where there isn't one. Save your anger for the Judge Moore's, Robertson's and Dobson's of the world. These guys are just making a non violent video game. Let it go.

I have no idea what "folks" you are talking about that I should go ask. If you mean the gamers in the article, I doubt they are loosing as much sleep as you are about this.

As far as the mormons are concerned let me draw a parallel. If bunny pants ran as a Democratic candidate...won the nomination, said all of the right things about foreign policy, individual rights, the environment, freedom of religion and seperation of church and state and secured the Democratic voting base. Then he was elected President and immediately went to war, trashed individual rights, and demanded that the 10 commandments be put in every classroom and courthouse in the country, there would be many many unhappy Democrats because he lied.

Mormons claim to be Christian, yet they do not believe in the basic theology shared by all Christain churches in the world (John 3:16). They pull people in under the false premise that they believe Jesus died for their sins and that is the only way they will get to heaven. Instead new converts go to "teaching sessions" which tell of how they can become equals with God and if they live a good life (not believe in the saving grace of Christ's death), they will get the opportunity to have their own planet to do as Jesus did for earth.

I have no respect for religions that completely misrepresent themselves.

"Respect for religious beliefs as long as they agree with YOURS?"
As I layed in my hypothetical about bunny pants, I have respect for religious beliefs that do not hijack my own beliefs and twist the message into something that does not even come remotely close to my beliefs, but still claims to believe what I believe. Not that hard to grasp.

[DistressedAmerican]

40. Point One: Let The Market Decide? Sure! I Just Thought It Was Funny.

They can do what ever the hell they want. The sales will suck but, it might make someone a nice little cottage industry. However if you can't put this into the context of the broader "Culture War", I can see why you would not understand why it might be an issue...

As to the rest: Just more intollerance of non-christians.

Save your anger for the Judge Moore's, Robertson's and Dobson's of the world. They are the ones hijacking your belief system. Unless that is you happen to consider that your brand of christianity...

What the hell do the Mormons even have to do with ANYTHING? Stop bitching about broad brush smears of peoples beleifs while you sit right here and do just that!

[LeftyChristian]

41. Well we agree on one thing!

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

"As to the rest: Just more intollerance of non-christians."
I don't know how I can make this any more easy to understand. The Judge Moore's, Robertson's and Dobson's of the world are focusing on the wrong aspects of Christianity. They may be sending the wrong message about Christianity, but at least they are not lying about the main message of Christianity.

The mormons are flat out lying and doing it under the guise of Christianity. If you can't seperate the difference between what you are obviously interpreting as intolerance and flat out disgust for a group that uses my beliefs to draw people in while peddling another product, then we have nothing more to say to each other on this subject.

"What the hell do the Mormons even have to do with ANYTHING? Stop bitching about broad brush smears of peoples beleifs while you sit right here and do just that!"

Follow along here, I gave you an example of mormons being fundies that you should also be very frightened of and in post #24, I was told not to criticize other Chritians. I was trying to explain that the LDS church is not a Christian church. It is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I would say you have a valid point about my broad brush smears of the LDS church, except they all believe the same thing...there are only two types of mormons...fundamentalists and extreme fundamentalists. Find me one mormon temple that will allow mormons in who can't prove that they tithed 10% or just flat out didn't tithe 10%. Now go look at the huge percentage of Christian churches that ask you to give of your own freewill.

It is agreed that fundies are sending the wrong message, but find me one mormon who is in good standing with the church that does not believe that everyone on earth is going to hell except members of the LDS church. If you can, I will apologize for painting the mormons with a broad brush. Until that time, they are on equal ground as fundamentalist Christians.

"Unless that is you happen to consider that your brand of christianity..."
Your petty veiled accusations are not appreciated. Find one post of my 60 that says that everyone who is not a Christian will be going to hell, or that I want the 10 commandments in every public square, or maybe I posted that all atheists are immoral, heathens. You won't find one unless you try to read into things.

[DistressedAmerican]

42. What exactly is the difference between Intollerance and Disgust?

"...If you can't seperate the difference between what you are obviously interpreting as intolerance and flat out disgust"

I see no difference between intollerance and disgust except that it seems to me that disgust may be more hateful.

"they all believe the same thing..."

What seems to bug you is that they believe a variant of chistitianity that does not comform to yours. Maybe YOU should convert? Since you are clearly a scholar on the book of Mormon and all...

[LeftyChristian]

45. I didn't think this was that difficult

Intolerance: unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs

Disgust: Profound aversion or repugnance excited by something offensive.

I can be disgusted with something but still believe that it should be allowed to exist. i.e. I may disagree with atheists, mormons, muslims etc., but I would never deny them their religious freedoms or the right to exist.

If I am intolerant of something, I am denying it the right to exist.

"What seems to bug you is that they believe a variant of chistitianity that does not comform to yours."

What is so difficult to grasp. What they believe is not Christianity. I've been beating my head against the wall here.

Christians: Believe that Jesus Christ died and rose from the dead to atone for all sins. The only way to God.

Mormons: Believe that if they live a good life they will become a god on their own planet.

I'll ignore your last comment as it does not deserve the dignity of a response. Please leave the personal attacks out. I think we can discuss this without resorting to insults.

[DistressedAmerican]

46. And YOUR Disgust With Mormons Does Not Equal

an "unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs" of mormons ON YOUR PART?

I am beginnning to feel some disgust of my own!

[LeftyChristian]

55. Please reread

I have not ever denied LDS members their right to believe what they want. Nor do I disrespect their beliefs. I am just asking questions, that you can do the same of me.

There are no hidden ceremonies or newly revealed revelations for the Christian faith, but up until about 25 years ago, mormons would not allow African Americans into their church and to this day do not allow them to serve in any high positions. Women need not apply either. How's that for progressive!

I am just relaying the beliefs of the LDS church. Don't punish the messenger for the message.

[DistressedAmerican]

59. So Calling Them Liars And Comparing Them To A Cult Is

not disrespecting their beliefs?

"They are brainwashed and it is a cult on par with the Branch Davidians and Jonestown."

I suggest YOU have yourself a little reread.

But everytime you reread the things you have posted insert "Chrisitian" For "Mormon" and then ask yourself how intollerant and hateful they sound?

Since you can't seen to put yourself in their shoes maybe you should put the shoes you made for them on yourself and see how the feel for walking around...

Out of curiosity How do you feel about the inquisition?

It was led by folks who decided THEY KNEW BEST what a Christian was.

[LeftyChristian]

71. Okay

Are they liars? Are they a cult? If yes, then it is the truth. If not, then yes as I have stated before, I owe them an apology. I was blown off when I posted links to back up what I said. A simple yes, this is our theology or no here is a link that accurately explains every bit of our theology. One of the links was from an LDS church member. An interesting read if you take the time.

I'm not that familiar with the Inquisition, but as you said to me, since you are an Inquisition scholar maybe you should convert to Christianity.

[Swamp Rat]

76. I knew it!

"la la la la la... maybe you should convert to Christianity." - HA! Like verbs in German, it comes at the end. So, you are here to convert people to your religion, just like the Mormons of which you spoke. Please take this spirit and energy, and go work on some of the fundies who've hijacked your religion. What would Jesus do? :)

[LeftyChristian]

77. Hee Hee

You have uncovered my sinister plan. MUAAAHAAAHAAA

I try to do my part to reclaim Christianity, but it's like eating an elephant...one piece or "peace" at a time!

[DistressedAmerican]

78. No They Are Not Liars and Cultists. And Yes You Owe Them An Apology...

[Momgonepostal]

47. With all due respect, you don't know what you are talking about

The LDS Church also teaches that Christ atoned for our sins. We use the New Testament, the King James Version.

You're making yourself look very unimformed.

[LeftyChristian]

57. But,

according to documents published by the LDS church, Christ's death alone is not enough for salvation. That is where the LDS church and Christianity go in opposite directions.

[Momgonepostal]

60. Also according to James, of NT fame

Faith without works is dead, o vain man.

Other Christian churches also believe this. I know there is a lot on controversy surrounding this issue, but I'm not so arrogant as to label those whose beliefs differ from mine as non-Christian.

Do you see how insulting that is? How you can honestly say that, and call us cultists ala Jim Jones and then NOT see how that is offensive and an OPINION not based on fact just boggles the mind.

[LeftyChristian]

63. Every Christian

desires to live a Christ like life, but because we not perfect, that is impossible.

The verse from James alone is not the basis for salvation.

Romans 2:8-9 and John 3:16 are two passages that I hold dear to my heart. The verses from Romans, to me, say that you can do nothing to save yourself, but that doesn't mean go out and do as you please because you are forgiven. What you quote form James can be used with Romans to provide a possible blueprint for Christians.

[Momgonepostal]

44. 10 million people all believe the same thing?

What are the odds of that?

As to this:

"...but find me one mormon who is in good standing with the church that does not believe that everyone on earth is going to hell except members of the LDS church. If you can, I will apologize for painting the mormons with a broad brush. Until that time, they are on equal ground as fundamentalist Christians."

Mormons don't believe in the traditional concept of Hell. Gotcha.

And for the kicker, we believe that the people who will be the absolute worse off in the afterlife are Mormons, who have had a good understanding of the gospel of Jesus Christ, but still choose not to follow him.

Your venom towards people who believe differently than you do and don't follow your particular type of Christianity has no place in a progressive society.

[LeftyChristian]

50. Hmmmm

So explaining different parts of mormon theology that go unadvertised is now venom? Where in the progressive society does condemnation of ANY religion belong? Yet it occurs here almost daily!

If you can say that the websites that I posted are completely false with just a little proof, then I will issue an apology to all mormons on DU. I have no problem admitting that I am wrong...when I am wrong.

[DistressedAmerican]

51. Where in the progressive society does condemnation of ANY religion belong?

I Ask YOU!

Listen to yourself for a second. Unless your motives are less than pure...

[LeftyChristian]

53. Looks like we are both hypocrites doesn't it

.

[DistressedAmerican]

54. I Never Asked You To Go On An Anti-Mormon Tirade.

That was your choice. It in no way related to the thread. Sees to be a personal problem.

As to being hypocrites, I really don't think I am.


But your hypocrisy is plain to see...

[LeftyChristian]

56. However you see it works for me

I have seen your screen name pop up in rants about all christians before, so the difference between you and I is that I can admit to my hypocrisy, while you ignore yours.

I gave an example of extreme fundamentalism and then I explained why I believe they are fundamentalists and why they are not Christian. If you didn't want to hear it then you shouldn't have egged it on...see post #32 and #37 Your quote "And your point about Mormons is that they "LIE about being Christian"?"

[Momgonepostal]

43. Hey, Smarty-Pants, I AM a Mormon

:eyes:

Much of what you say is off base, or waaaay off base. If YOU were to check out the church's theology YOU would see that.

I accept Christ as my savior. I define MYSELF as a Christian. That should be good enough for you.

I agree that painting fundamentalists with a broad brush is unproductive and innaccurate. You've gone way beyond that with you comparisons to Jonestown and the Branch Davidians. Good grief, could you be more offensive if you tried?

[LeftyChristian]

48. Excellent

Then these websites should be easy to explain. I'm sure that you have your temple recommend, otherwise you couldn't get married, or baptized or go through the temple endowment ceremony.
http://www.helpingmormons.org/temples.htm
http://www.lds-mormon.com/veilworker/recommend.shtml
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/mormon.htm
And here is a snip from the last site.
3. God. In Mormon theology, the god of our planet is believed to have once been a man on another planet, who through self-effort and the help of his own father-god, was appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth, and now has a physical, resurrected, glorified body. Mormonism teaches that through the atonement of Christ and by their good deeds and "holy" living, men can one day become gods, and with their multiplicity of "goddess wives," populate their own planets. (This is what the celestial marriage and the Mormon temple vows are all about.) Mormon theology, therefore, humanizes God and deifies man.
<snip>
7. Salvation. Mormon theology teaches that the atonement of Christ was essential to our salvation and eternal life with God, but that it is not sufficient. Christ's shed blood on the cross provides for universal resurrection of all people, but does not pay for personal sins; according to Mormonism, only Christ's blood shed in the Garden of Gethsemane atones for personal sin. Besides faith in Christ, complete and permanent repentance of all sin as well as many good works are required.6 Mormonism also teaches that one must be baptized in water to be saved (baptismal regeneration), and that salvation will also be available in the next world for those "missing-out" in this one. Therefore, Mormons avidly pursue genealogy and practice baptism for the dead.
<snip>

You may accept Christ as your Savior, but according to your theology, it isn't good enough. I am only saying that the LDS church is not a Christian church. You yourself may define yourself as a Christian, but the theology of your church says otherwise.

[Momgonepostal]

49. Forgive me if I don't read your links

I've read all that stuff before, and I seriously doubt there is anything new there to see.

My church is a Christian church. If it does not fit what you view as Christianity, that is your problem and not mine.

What is your purpose here exactly?

P.S. Not that it's your business, but yes I have been married in the temple, I served a mission and currently possess half a temple recommend, I've had one of the two interviews necessary. I'll need to schedule a special appointment time for the second, since I work evenings which is when they typically do the stake interviews.

[LeftyChristian]

52. I have not been baptized in the temple

nor have I received any special names or handshakes through an endowment ceremony, yet I believe that Christ died for my sins. What will happen to me when I die? What if my wife dies before I do? Does she have to wait until I die so I can allow her admission to heaven? My wife and I have not been sealed to our son who is 4 months old. Will we never see him again after we die?

[Momgonepostal]

58. I haven't been baptised in the temple either.

That's not how things work.

You already seem to have made up your mind about things, so I don't view your questions as a sincere attempt to learn about other people's faiths, but more as an effort to poke fun and beliefs not like your own.

[LeftyChristian]

61. I'[m sorry that you see it that way.

The San Antonio temple was recently dedicated and my family and I went to the open house. A beautiful building, but left a lot of questions that I wanted to research on my own.

I have nothing to hide with my faith, and I just don't understand why there are so many unknowns with the LDS church. Please accept my apology if my tone was offensive to you.

There are a small group of posters here that are dead set against any religion, because of the action of a small minority of fundamentalist leaders across the world. As a progressive, I feel that there is a place for religion and faith in this country and one that is not relegated to just the church building. If my family and I choose to pray before a meal in a restaurant, I don't think that I am forcing my beliefs down anyone's throat.

[DistressedAmerican]

62. Next time you are feeling persecuted why don't you ponder your remarks

about people of the LDS Church:

"They are brainwashed and it is a cult on par with the Branch Davidians and Jonestown. "

Maybe you'll think twice before feeling the need to go there.

[LeftyChristian]

65. I have never felt persecuted

Let me get this straight. You are now sticking up for a religious group that is more fundamentalist and less progressive than the often loathed fundamentalist Christians (mormons do not allow tobacco, alcohol and caffinated drinks and probably aren't too big of fans of illegal drugs, abortion and the sex industry) in a thread where you are making fun of fundamentalist Christians.

I'm speechless. Does the phrase cuting off your nose to spite your face mean anything to you?

[DistressedAmerican]

66. I am sticking up for a religious group that have NEVER forced its

beliefs on me in either a public OR private setting.

To come full circle on my original point.

I have nothing to say about religions conservative or liberal that do not try to push their beliefs on me.

I know you may have lost my point since you started your anti-mormon rant last night.

I guess it can be hard to follow when you have hijacked someone's thread to vent your personal religious "disgust".

[LeftyChristian]

69. Well

since you have never experienced a missionary knocking on your door, be it mormon or jehovah's witness, then just give it some time. There are huge radio and television campaigns advertising for the LDS church..."Isn't it about time", you may or may not have heard them but since the LDS temple was dedicated this past weekend in San Antonio, they have flooded the airwaves. Within a three week period at the end of April, I got no fewer than ten postcards in the mail and flyers on my door announcing the open house. How's that for in your face, I get in the car it's on the radio. I come home it's in my mailbox, on my front porch and on my television. So, I guess if hasn't happened to you, then it hasn't happened to anyone.

"I know you may have lost my point since you started your anti-mormon rant last night."
And to set the record straight, I went on anti mormon rant inside your anti Christain thread.

"I guess it can be hard to follow when you have hijacked someone's thread to vent your personal religious "disgust"."
Sorry to have hijacked your personal religious commentary thread. I will get out of your hair now and let you continue to make fun of Christians. Good day to you.

[Momgonepostal]

73. When Mormons start lobbying for laws outlawing...

...alcohol, tobacco, coffee, then let's talk. For the time being, my not partaking of those things shouldn't be an affront to anyone who does.

I've never heard anyone here bash the Amish, mainly because they believe what they believe and don't publically condemn those who don't. Many posters here take issue with certain types of Christians who not only believe what they believe, but want to legislate the rest of us into believing that way too.

[Momgonepostal]

64. It's certainly true that there are SOME anti-religious people on DU

and I agree that you should be able to pray in a restaurant before a meal or buy a Christian video game without worrying that you are "shoving your religion down people's throats." I'll even go a step farther and say you should be able to eat in a restaurant with your non-white spouse, or hold hands with your gay boyfriend on the way to get a marriage license without people feeling like you are "subjecting them to your lifestyle." Unfortunately, many of us have a way to go in the acceptance department.

My problem with this whole part of the thread, is that you chose to express what you deemed unfair criticism of your religion by criticising someone else's religion. I'm not sure if you think Mormon aren't democrats and don't read DU or don't have computers or that we like and accept being called Branch Davidians, but whatever it was, don't be surprised a fellow DUer called you on your post.

[LeftyChristian]

67. Point taken

Christianity is no way is a "sacred cow", and there are plenty of things that bother me that Christian leaders do, but the response of SOME here is so over the top with "imminent theocracy" and "we'll be rounded up and put into camps" is just sad.

[DistressedAmerican]

68. I'll Take Theocracy And Stand By It. I Believe YOU Made Up The Camps

as a straw argument you could keep throwing up.

[LeftyChristian]

70. Even though I was replying to momgoespostal

It's only a metter of time before it gets batted around. Not only should you watch out for the black helicopters, but be especially alert for the ones with big crosses and pictures of Jesus on them.

[DistressedAmerican]

75. My Bad, I Thought That A Reply To One Person Was Called

a Personal Message. Pardon me for butting in on my own thread.

Again with the rediculous straw man argument. keep repeating it and someone might start to listen.

You know the one, about how we are all just wack job conspiracy theorists waiting for the religious camps and now the black helicopters.

[DistressedAmerican]

28. I'm Sorry To Tell You But, The Time That They Try To Make This A

Theocracy IS HERE!!!

If there really is a so called silent Christian majority out there what were they doing about Judge Roy Moore?

What were they doing about the recent Sunday prayer day featuring speeches about how Dems are "against people of faith"?

What are they doing about the Dobsons, and Falwells of the world?

Give them credit for WHAT?

These supposed silent majority better get off of their asses NOW!

Either you are deluded or you are motivated by something else...

[LeftyChristian]

29. I respect your opinion...

but I don't necessarily agree with it. Good luck with fighting the good fight. I'll put in a good word for you if you get rounded up and thrown into the Christian gulags that are apparently imminent.

[Fire Walk With Me]

31. How about the PMRC and "Parental Advisory" stickers on music?

People have been sent to jail for selling stickered records to under-agers.

It's not strictly about God, but about the same sort of enforced morality.

[Swamp Rat]

16. Welcome to DU!

Good luck! :D

POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE

[Swamp Rat]

33. Thanks for the lesson

[DistressedAmerican]

34. I Always Loved That Graphic!

Apparently the weapon of choice in many of these games is either the Bible of the Word Of God. So maybe he wouldn't have to bomb anyone!

[Ladyhawk]

17. You choose your religion; you don't choose your skin color.

Sorry, apples and oranges. And I reserve the right to criticize religion when it does something oppressive and/or stupid. I will unite with religious people who share the same values of social justice I do, but oppressive fundies deserve to be riduculed.

[LeftyChristian]

23. I guess I wasn't reading anything extra into the article

I thought these were just a few dudes that wanted an alternative to violent video games. They may be stupid or have a stupid idea, but they are hardly oppressive to want to make a non-violent video game. Maybe I need to do a little more research on their individual backgrounds.

[Ladyhawk]

25. Probably wouldn't have killed me to do some research, too.

Fundamentalism is my BIG RED BUTTON issue. Push it and I get cranky. :)

[Fone Book]

18. I have no respect for any of them

"I am treated as evil by people who claim they are being oppressed because they cannot force me to practice what they do." --D. Dale Gulledge

[sakabatou]

11. "I have always been a gamer since the days of Pong and Pacman,"

That's all he plays...

[DistressedAmerican]

12. Isn't Pac Man Actually Gay?

[Fire Walk With Me]

15. Yes. That's why it's Ms. Pac Man, not Mrs.

http://www.arcadegamesuperstore.com/mspacman.htm

And the kid's a bastard born in sin, adopted by gays.

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=B&game_id=6987

[LiberalPersona]

20. Easy to predict the fate of these games

No one will buy them. They won't even have a cult following that games like Shin Megami Tensei has in the US.

[DistressedAmerican]

21. kickin!

[Flying Dream Blues]

26. I guess these will be like the sanitized movies...

"Forget YOU, Satan, FORGET YOU!!"

[DistressedAmerican]

35. Morning Kick!

[valis]

39. Good luck with "Quest for the Body of Jesus"

oh well

[tk2kewl]

74. Maybe they can make one for abortion

saving embryos and implanting them into willing Christians.