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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:25 AM
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One day, somebody is going to break ranks and spill the beans
on this whole repuke agenda. There are just too many people involved and too many heavy handed tactics being employed. One day, somebody big, with some clout, and a guilty conscience over what is about to happen, will come forward. That, or they will lead the next Bob Woodward to all the skeletons in the closet. Who might it be?



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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:28 AM
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1. David Brock's Already Done It
With three books on the subject of Pubbie conspiracy. Can it seriously be doubted?

Maybe Spector will do it, before he gets really sick.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:30 AM
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3. maybe I read your mind... n/t
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:37 AM
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6. A former American Spectator writer doesn't count
I want some big name.

Brock's "Blinded By The Right" is a classic. A must read for anyone who doesn't worship at the $5,000 boots of Sir George.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:29 AM
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2. A kind of mega-David Brock?
Edited on Tue May-24-05 02:35 AM by Syrinx
His book, Blinded By The Right, was quite amazing. (And got very little coverage, compared to when he was on the other side.) I hope someone a little more "inside" will spill his or her guts. Someone who wants to save the country from the very ugly future that awaits it otherwise.

PS -- I've got to reread that book. There were people in that book that I didn't know then. And many of them are in the current far-right scene. Barbara Comstock was portrayed, quite pathetically, I saw recently. Gotta read that one again.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:32 AM
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4. Or not.
Edited on Tue May-24-05 02:34 AM by FlemingsGhost
This time, it must be the citizens who reclaim their rightful position of power. Ain't no calvary going to save us, this time.

Maybe we should stop looking ... waiting.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:37 AM
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5. Paul O'Neill, Richard Clarke...
The MSM always runs with a B*sh-approved shoot-the-messenger line of defense and, *poof* it goes away.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:57 AM
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17. Those two didn't really say much. They know a hell of a lot more.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:38 AM
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7. Brock's Jokes about Ann Coulter
Edited on Tue May-24-05 02:40 AM by rwenos
1. He never saw her go to the bathroom. Never.

2. She never eats. She apparently survives on white wine and cigarettes.

3. She hangs out almost exclusively with gay men. Especially closeted RW gay men.

For some reason I find all these thoughts hysterically funny. The final one makes me (a straight male) wonder what she's afraid of.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:42 AM
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8. Gay men are more tolerant of witches.
and transvestites.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:55 AM
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9. The people with clout in this administration...
... don't have guilty consciences (proof of that is that Cheney is still lying about WMDs, Mohammed Atta in Prague and Hussein sponsoring al-Qaeda). It's not in them. They think they are doing the right thing by deceiving the public, because, to them, the ends justify the means.

What I'm hoping for, before this has gone way too far, is that some lower-level guy, a John Dean-type, gets called before a committee, sighs, and decides to tell the truth and names more names. Yes, that Cheney directed Halliburton contract negotiations. Bush signed off on major terrorism drills to take place on September 11, and he was advised to do so by Cheney, that sort of thing.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:58 AM
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10. Sociopaths
You are SO RIGHT about Cheney. There he is, on C-SPAN, warning of nukes in Kansas City, if the Democrats ever get the WH or Congress back. No conscience. No sense of right and wrong. It's a form of mental illness, really. Insane greed, maybe?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:06 AM
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12. I was looking for something else...
... yesterday, and found something about him from an old acquaintance, who said he didn't think Cheney was particularly ideological (well, his voting record in Congress suggests otherwise), but that his attitude about political power was that it was like a game of medicine ball. Once you got hold of it, you pushed and pushed and pushed, and in that way you never gave your opponent even the merest chance of pushing back.

Sound familiar these days?

Getting and keeping political power is the most important thing in these people's lives. That's what makes what they do so stupid--because there's nothing behind it except the raw exercise of power and their own vague notions about how that power should be exercised.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:12 AM
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13. Exactly! There's no vision or leadership, only unquenchable thirst.
The sole purpose of the RW political apparatus is to cultivate, consolidate and exert power.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:00 AM
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11. Rigged elections, illegal invasion, terrorrist attack, fraud, treason
Do you think maybe it's "gone way too far?"

I do.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:14 AM
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14. Well, there's still...
... overt fascism, totalitarian rule, martial law, forced labor camps for dissenters, public executions of "traitors," and church-controlled civil law to look forward to... however bad things are now, they can get worse over time. *sigh*
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 03:31 AM
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15. And Remember the Early 1970's
When the CIA was investigating domestically (much like today), and federal agents had infiltrated every big-city police dept. in the country.

There were dark forces at work, much we still don't even know. And it's back. Even worse, maybe.
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ariellyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 04:33 AM
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16. They'll be suicided first. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:21 AM
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18. the perfect candidate would be Colin Powell
but he's too big a whore now
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 05:33 AM
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19. POWER is the motivator.
Most of the people in Govt. are millionairs so it isn't the money that drives them. Cheney and his hideous wife are worth around $140 Million. Rumsfailed is worth millions. Most people in Congress are millionairs.

I still believe that Amerika is an Oligarchy sliding into a Fascist Police State.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 07:19 PM
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20. but
I didn't say he whored for money; you are correct, he whores for power
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