The good and bad of the filibuster deal.

[Renew Deal]

The good:

Filibuster saved: though that really doesn't do anything for Democrats. Once again, we save the country and have to sacrifice for it.

Frist is marginalized. :D

Republicans divided :D

Religious nuts foaming at the mouth

Reid is a hero and a statesmen.

Byrd and McCain look very good as well.


The bad:

Owens and Brown are on the court :scared:

McCain looks good

The language on the deal is ambiguous. "extraordinary circumstances." What does that really mean?

[lancdem]

1. Repuke Graham says one of the 3

will not survive and up or down vote. I wonder who that is?

I notice you have McCain looking good under the good AND bad. LOL

[Clark2008]

11. Henry Saad

Apparently he's pretty shady.

Reid says Saad's FBI report reveals some pretty substantial "problems."

[carpetbagger]

12. I think Saad doesn't get the cloture vote.

The three are Pryor, Owen, Brown. If I had to guess, I'd say Brown doesn't have the votes. The DC Circuit is a place where the democrats were more likely to make a stand than the already-packed and remote (except for that little issue of my constitutional liberties against a state government that doesn't consider my denomination a real religion) 5th Circuit. Brown is also crazy in a more obviously batshit way (retro in a pre-1930's way, not just a pre-1960's way).

[wtmusic]

2. Completely ambiguous

this was a PR move, and a very successful one. "We gave them their extreme judges--and now they want MORE?"

We can spin this one like a top. :thumbsup:

[BillZBubb]

15. Yeah, that spin really worked for Neville Chamberlain too

I gave the Nazi's Czechoslovakia and now they want Poland! Those Nazi's are sooooo badddd.

He got spun into the dustbin of history as an appeasing idiot who couldn't understand you don't make temporizing deals with power mad fanatics. It's the same dustbin where the Democratic Losership belongs.

[wtmusic]

16. Call in the Navy! The Marines!

Give me any suggestion of how else to resolve this thing and I'll tell you exactly why this one sucks but yours sucks worse.

[Coexist]

3. they are told to use "his or her own discretion" to determine that

http://rawstory.com/aexternal/the_filibuster_deal_523

[Inland]

4. Right as far as it goes

and the rest is left to develop in the future.

[serryjw]

5. Mary Poppins....There is NO good.......

you are dreaming.

[housewolf]

6. Best - the American people

By any stretch of the imagination, what happened today is the best outcome the American people could have seen.

Any other result of a "nuclear option" vote that might have happened tomorrow, the horrible partisanship and emnity that would have resulted, would have been bad for the country.

Expecially with the country as divided as it is, compromise and agreement is a good thing.

[Renew Deal]

7. I agree

I wonder how many people really get it.

[applegrove]

8. I wonder too if a certain political operative was not allowed into

the discussions. The legislature is a different entity than the WH. Perhaps McCain was reminded of this somehow.

[bububjones]

9. Republicans divided :D We should take advantage of this situation.

We should try to get the nominations blocked.

[Renew Deal]

10. People made promises

That's the end of that.

[StlMo]

13. This is the equivalent of ...

This is the equivalent of a gang (the GOP, fittingly, corresponds to the gang in this comparison) threatening to rob a bank and a deal being reached that the criminals walk away with only some of the money in the bank on the condition that they not rob the whole bank for a couple of years.

Sure, it is better that the Bush gang's success is less than total, but it is an affront to justice that the GOP get any reward for their threat of illegal activity.

[StlMo]

14. Pdf of the deal memo:

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/05/05/TheDeal.pdf

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Reid is a hero and statesman? You mean like Chamberlain was?

When he made the brilliant compromise with Hitler?