Capitulation

[markus]

We blinked.

They get the most extreme judges in the pack, and we get the right to do this all over again. And the White House gets arguing rights that anybody up to the worst of these nominees is a "mainstream" jurist. (The last bit per the correspondent from Fox, who nicely explained it to us).

We just lost. Byrd thinks he saved the Senate. Well, if to save the Senate is to lose the country the, with all due respect Sen. Byrd, fuck the intrinsically undemocratic Senate which gives the red staters extraordinatory power over us.

[Pacifist Patriot]

1. I'm not so sure.

From what I understand, the right wing is absolutely fuming over this. They wanted to see us crushed and that didn't happen. We still retain the right to fillibuster in the future, think Supreme Court nominees, which irks them to no end.

No compromise makes everyone happy and certainly there are aspects to this that leave a lot to be desired from my perspective. But overall I think this is a chink in the Republican armor, not the Democratic.

[TahitiNut]

2. Frist didn't even have to use one of his bombs.

The Democrats surrendered on six of the eight ultra-rightwing re-nominations. Remember, every single one of these nominations were already refused by a prior Senate!

The kid throws a screaming hissy fit, thrashing and screaming on the floor of the mall ... and the parent says, "OK, just six more candies!"

[NorCalDem]

3. Both sides are upset with this deal,

because the only people who win are those already in power. "We the people" should get used to losing, no matter what game we're playing.

[markus]

4. You are absolutely right

We are compromising with the uncompromising and the absolute. We give them what they want, and they promise to let us ask again nicely if we can do that again in teh future.

That is not a winning propostion in any game I know.

All we've really done is put off the real fight over the Supreme Court.

[Fovea]

6. We are compromising with the uncompromising

You are so very right.

This is a compromise worthy of 1854.
It is the judicial equivalent of the Kansas Nebraska act.
I predict it will be as successful.

[JNelson6563]

5. I am rethinking my position

I may withdraw from the party. I am a District Chair. I have worked full time for no pay for two years. My party just caved. Again.

I am sick. Where are all the spines?

Julie

[markus]

7. I'm a past district chair and now treasurer

and I think I'm going to resign that post at the next meeting.

The place to work is at a grassroots caucus level. Our own centrists don't fear us as much as they fear the religious right.

I think it's time to change that proposition.

[Deja Q]

8. My verdict was out...

Had Frist got his way, would it have been easy for the Dems to then go to the people saying "We blocked so few; they've blocked many MANY more in the past. We allowed over 200 when * is in office. And they're saying WE are playing unfairly?"

My verdict is in.

I've had it with them all. They will have to convince me to vote for them in 2006. Period.