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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:42 PM
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GOP wants a "do-over" election in Washington State!
Goodness, what to do, fly to Olympia with a bunch of "SORE/LOSERMAN" signs?

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WENATCHEE, Wash. - A trial to determine whether the results of Washington state's gubernatorial election last fall should be thrown out opened Monday with the Republicans charging that the Democrats "stole" the contest for Christine Gregoire, who won by 129 votes out of 2.9 million cast.

The GOP wants Dino Rossi declared the winner or a do-over election held.

"This is a case of election fraud," GOP attorney Dale Foreman said in his opening statement in the trial, which is being heard by a Superior Court judge without a jury. "This election was stolen from the legal voters of this state by a bizarre combination of illegal voters and bungling bureaucrats."

Foreman surprised the court with a new claim: that the Democrats rigged the election by stuffing ballot boxes in Gregoire's two strongest precincts and by "losing" votes in two of Rossi's strongest precincts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/election_challenge
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:44 PM
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1. Move on, biatches.
You lost.

Get over it.

God, that feels good. :)
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:32 PM
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51. They must have received there new diebold machines n/t
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:45 PM
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2. Dear Kette, You're black. Sinscerely, Pot
Edited on Mon May-23-05 03:54 PM by aden_nak
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:48 PM
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12. My sentiments, exactly!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:45 PM
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3. How DARE they use the words "election fraud"
Talk about an invincibility complex ... sheesh.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:56 PM
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18. I will use the words...
Edited on Mon May-23-05 03:56 PM by Andy_Stephenson
In King County there was Election Fraud. I know I live there and have investigated it. I wish it weren't so...but the elections office is dirty in King county. The worst of the offenders in the state.


edited for spelling
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:24 PM
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48. So will you be testifying on Rossi's behalf?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:45 PM
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4. Whatta bunch of SORE LOSERS!
Now is O'Reilly going to do a piece about how this happens in all elections?
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:45 PM
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5. I thought the GOP did not cry over lost elections like they accused the
Dems in 2000. What a bunch of hypocritical bastards.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:46 PM
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6. Sad part is, they'll more than likely get their "do-over"
These are Repukes, after all, the rules don't apply to them.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:04 PM
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27. They will get a revote...
but they will lose so I am not worried.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:06 PM
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31. They would not go to this trouble if they weren't certain
they had it in the bag. You think there was fraud the last go around? That'll be nothing to the fraud the GOP perpetrates this time!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 06:23 PM
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56. In my opinion, it is not whether they will lose again

or not, it would be the success of GETTING the re-vote! They just stomp their feet and cry like 6 year-olds and they get their way?! C'mon, are we Democrats or doormats?
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:06 PM
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58. Not that it helps but
Everyone in Oregon thinks Rossi is a joke and would get creamed a second time around after his inability to do anything helpful after losing.

Can't imagine our norther neighbor is all that different on the issue. He'll be handed his ass if he gets what he's asking for.

Unless WA is on full BBV of course.

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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:46 PM
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7. Why didn't Democrats do this in 2000 or 2004?
We are so stupid that we always wait for Republicans to strike first.

Many Americans will now associate Democrats and voter fraud because Republicans are willing to stand up in a court of law and accuse Democrats of fraud, even though they know it's false.

Democrats aren't willing to stand up and accuse Republicans of fraud, even when they know it's true.

Once again, we had to watch our side duck and cover while the Republicans fight on.

The 2000 election should have tarnished the Republican party badly, but wimpy Al Gore ran and hid and wasn't seen again for years.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:49 PM
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14. I will give that to the GOP, they never give up
We are always expected to give in "for the sake of the country/unity/fairplay/etc"
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:46 PM
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8. Why didn't Kerry fight as hard as these asswipes?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:01 PM
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25. Hell - why didn't Gore fight as hard as these asswipes
Edited on Mon May-23-05 04:02 PM by RamboLiberal
There was no damn reason he shouldn't have - we had a competent guy in office already that could've run the U.S. till it was decided!

Except we had too many polite lily-livered Dems who wanted to concede! Like Lieberman!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:51 PM
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55. oh, I know why Gore & Kerry didn't fight--divided loyalties
they represent us and corporate America.

The GOP doesn't have those competing interests. They serve one master (and yank the chain of the religious right just enough to get them to the polls).
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:47 PM
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9. If they get a Do-Over in Washington, we get one in Ohio!
How's about them apples?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:48 PM
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10. just like Rice wanted a new election in Ecuador when a not-pliant VP
performed his CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED ROLE
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:48 PM
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11. And they say we are sore losers
Like they have been telling us, Get Over It, You lost!
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:49 PM
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13. They'll get their "do-over" as soon as Ohio gets it's presidential do-over
Edited on Mon May-23-05 03:53 PM by RubyDuby in GA
and not until.

What is it that the GOP is so fond of telling us on the Left? Oh yeah - GET OVER IT!! YOU LOST - SUCK ON THAT!

:)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:50 PM
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15. I want a do-over of the 2000 and 2004 elections...
...but so f'n what.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:54 PM
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16. I live in King county...
The elections office in King so badly mishandled the election...that unfortunately I have to agree with a revote. There were many many inconsistencies in the Governors election and most of the problems came from King. I have been on Dean Logan to clean the mess up but when they are putting out falsified absentee reports and fudging numbers I get concerned. Hell even my absentee vote was not counted. So in this case...a revote is not only called for but necessary. As bad as I hate to agree with the Republican Party of Washington...I do.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:56 PM
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19. No way
Never support a revote until the Republicans support a revote of the 2000 election so we can get rid of Bush.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:58 PM
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20. Sorry...I am non-partisan in regards to voting and will
call it like I see it. In King county there was massive fraud on the part of the elections officials. Sad but true. The whole office save a few needs to be shook up. Again...I wish it were not true...I tried to get Dean Logan to clean the mess up...but he did not and now deserves whatever happens to him.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:59 PM
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23. I can't agree with you on this one, Andy
If we cave in here, they will run roughshod over us everywhere. We MUST make a stand.

No Do-Overs until the 2000 election is Done Over.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:03 PM
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26. Walt I hear ya...
But the elections office in King is dirty and there have been more problems than just this. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Fair elections are more important than who is right. Gregoire will win again and then we will be sure. But the problems in Wa state are indicative of what is wrong around the country with electronic elections. I think the trial will help to underscore those problems. I wish I could be on the otherside of this but I know way too well what was going on in King County in the Sept Primary as well as what was going on in Oct as well. It was not pretty.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:05 PM
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30. I don't believe Gregoire will win again
It will be even more rigged than before. They didn't rig the election enough for Rossi to win the last time.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:06 PM
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32. They will bus and fly in every basement GOP warrior...
...from far and wide for any "do over". Gregoire would NEVER win a revote.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:08 PM
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34. And all the people they bus in will also get a vote
Just watch, the fruad in a do-over election will blow away what they did last time.

They misunderestimated how much fraud they would ahve to commit last time and now they are pointing to their own fraud to get a chance to refraud the election.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:09 PM
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35. The Republicans were not in control in King Co...
The Democrats are...Deal Logan and Bill Hunnekins to be precise. I have caught them in many many lies. On many different occasions. Sorry Walt I hate to be on the other side of this as I have said. But if they had listened...and not lied repeatedly to the press and public I would be a bit more understanding.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:11 PM
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36. Who is the Washington Secretary of State?
And what Party does that person belong to?

sorry, the fraud will be on a scale unseen and the Repukes will win if they get a chance at refraud.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:24 PM
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40. Actually Sam Reed was a good guy in the election debacle
King County was where all the problems were. It is our most populous county and the election rides on King.

It is also predominately Democrat.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:55 PM
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17. Yet another example of Repuke hypocrisy
Dino Rossi = Sore Loserman

Look for Gregoire's personal life to be investigated and thrown into the spotlight over the next couple of years if they don't get their way.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:59 PM
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24. No Dino is not Sore Loserman...
the Republican party as legtimate concerns. King County was a mess.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:05 PM
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28. Well that's too damn bad
Edited on Mon May-23-05 04:07 PM by RamboLiberal
We had to live with the mess in Florida and Ohio in the past 2 presidential elections.

When Repukes get serious about fair voting then we should talk.

We need for this crap to cost them some elections!

And Andy - I hope you're doing well. Hated to post this, but I just had to disagree with you on this one.

I'm tired of being fair!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:11 PM
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37. We cannot cast stones if we ourselves are not
without sin.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:16 PM
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39. SURE WE CAN!
We're at war with the evil fucks.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:22 PM
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46. But then we lose the argument.
We have to be clean as a whistle to cast aspersions onto others.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:02 PM
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57. So you feel without changing any election laws
in WA, Rossi deserves a new vote?
Even after the handcount?
Please be clear on your position.
I don't want their to be any mistake on your opinion.

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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:28 PM
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41. He IS a Sore/Losernan.
Leaving "legitimate concerns" completely out of it - he was ready and eager to certify the election when he had a what? 43 vote lead? As soon as the tables turned and Gregoire took on a 100+ lead his tune changed completely. Whether or not there are problems in King County - they didn't know it then, and it took how long for them to dig up something useful to their cause?

He's a fucking scumbag with an entitlement complex, just like the REST of the republicans. This fact remains - no matter what bullshit someone may have pulled in King County.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:34 PM
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42. 'a fucking scumbag with an entitlement complex'
Well that certainly says it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:59 PM
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21. let's use this as a reason for PAPER BALLOTS,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:05 PM
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29. My point
exactly...Use this case to underscore the need for clean elections and consequences for elections officials that do not follow the law.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:04 PM
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44. Well, I got news for you!!! Snohomish County was rigged BIG time
Edited on Mon May-23-05 05:05 PM by Rainscents
For your information, I have 28 page indeepth investigatins done by Lawyer and UW Professor... GOP targeted all the Democratic County and they did!!! I sent a copy to someone who work for DNC and he also work for Washington State and this investigation report was talk about on Tom Hartmann's talk show about two weeks ago.

We have to get rid of fucking paperless machines and this is bottom line.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:20 PM
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45. I could not agree more.
But tell me...isn't Bob Terwilliger a Dem as well?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:26 PM
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49. Yes, he admit, he screwed up by not certifying machines(Check for inside
Edited on Mon May-23-05 05:28 PM by Rainscents
code)before allowing machines to be used. Machines were never certified after the Primary election... Can you believe this shit???

His fucking excuse were... We didn't have time!!!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:39 PM
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53. Hi Stephane! I sopke to you on the phone right after the election...
Thank you for doing great things for voting right! I had donated for your cause many times and I really do appreciated.
How are you feeling, Andy?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 03:59 PM
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22. Every time The GOP Bastards Lose.......
.....they want to DO IT over!!! Must not have skewed the voting machine software enough, but they'll get it right next time.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:06 PM
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33. That's what they did in California with the recall
and I do believe rigged voting to shoe horn Arnold in. They will stop at nothing.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:12 PM
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38. Oh, no, not again...
I thought we settled this once and for all. But when we charge election fraud, the media ignores us, the FReepers demonize us, and Karl Rove takes down the names of the loudest activists.
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 04:35 PM
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43. Hasn't Gregoire (like *) been sworn in?
I mean that was one of the reasons we had our hands tied regarding challenging the presidential election? Once sworn in it was a "done deal."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:22 PM
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47. Can we do over 2000?
then they need to shut the fuck up.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:28 PM
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50. I want a do-over of the 2000 election
so we're even.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:37 PM
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52. Whine Whine Whine Whine Whine Whine Whine...think they'd like some CHEESE
to go with their WHINE?
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Alex146 Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 05:40 PM
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54. I say sure
If we can have a re-vote in the presidential election.
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