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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:36 PM
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If the nuclear option passes, can it be taken to the Supreme Court?
Is that possible for this sort of issue? If the Supreme Court struck down the nuclear option as unconstitutional, there is not much the right wing could do about it. Plus, their ability to stack the courts would be greatly diminished.
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cvoogt Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:42 PM
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1. are you kidding?
If we look at Florida/2000, I think we can guess what their decision will be.
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bububjones Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:46 PM
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3. No, we have to take action.
Our only hope is to prevent it from passing at all. There is still lots of hope, but only if we act. http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/bububjones/ has a list of Senators that could go either way. Express your views to them!
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:54 PM
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7. I've been writing moderate Republicans
They could be our best hope right now. Any Senator who votes for the nuclear option is our enemy. Any Senator who votes against it deserves our respect.
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cvoogt Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 08:10 PM
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9. yup. but we can can forget the supremes
n/t
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:44 PM
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2. the repugs would win, 5-4.
d-uh.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:50 PM
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5. I'm not so sure about that...
They have also ruled against the religious right, most notably on the Texas "sodomy laws". The right wing says that the Supreme Court is "destroying America". If there is a way to take it to the Supreme Court, somebody needs to do it! If the SC did the right thing, it would be a right-wing fascist's worst nightmare come true!
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:48 PM
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4. The nuclear option is not an issue the Supreme Court could rule on
Under the constitution, the Senate has the right to make its own rules. It's senate rules that Frist & Cheney will be breaking, not constitutional law. The supreme court can't have anything to do with it.


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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:00 PM
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8. Interesting twists to this
There are clear signs that this is a plot hatched by the Bush White House--the Executive Branch. If the Executive Branch is getting involved in the rules of the Senate, as part of a progression towards breaking down the separations of powers and to reduce the checks and balances on the Executive which was intended by the framers of the Constitution, perhaps the Supreme Court could find Constitutional issues here.

Of course it also affects the independece of the Judicial Branch. But then this is all very unlikley to be accepted by the Supreme Court considering its politcal makeup. Still, if they see this as an attempt by the Bush administration to reduce the independence of both the Legislative and Judicial branches, there is a long shot chance they could get involved.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 06:52 PM
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6. Before it even got to the biased Supreme Court,

it would have to pass through federal courts stacked with Fristian appointees.

It isn't enough to own the White House, the Congress, and the Supreme Court--these criminals have to dominate them TOTALLY to ensure that they never get brought to justice. Even one unbiased judge at the federal level can cause them a lot of trouble before SCOTUS could jump in. The pukes are doing the same thing the drug cartels do--killing off judges they can't buy, and replacing them with judges they own. Oops, I forgot--the pukes are the cartels aren't necessarily two separate, unconnected entities. Wall Street runs on drug money and big money knows where it comes from.



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