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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:44 PM Original message |
Story by Dean on MTP re woman who thinks she is pro-life but who we would |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. He was great on the right to privacy for women issue. |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. that's me, too -- though always considered myself "pro-choice" to Reframe |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. How about "pro-rights" or "pro-personal freedom". n/t |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Could work -- Pro-privacy ? let's see.... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Reproductive Privacy |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Why call it anything? Why not just say "Safe, legal and rare"? |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Because those who are opposing birth control (not just the morning after |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. What about defining the other side as: Anti Privacy? Our side should be |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. yes, could work. See post # 5 -- |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. moral judgment |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. What do you feel about Reproductive Freedom? I think your ideas |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I think "Privacy" resonates with people more than "freedom" on this issue |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Exactly n/t |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. I definitely don't want |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 03:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. 1000% Agree. |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. How about "pro-decision" |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Going Shopping!!!! Perfect analogy! |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Pro-privacy is by far the best label! |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Same here |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. Did she have a relative |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. What a ridiculous comparison. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. My point is this |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. There are adopted people who are pro-choice. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. The only difference between us |
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. to extend your logic |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. I never really thought about the condom, frankly |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Actually, If I were aborted, I'd not have an opinion would I? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Interesting logic |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. No, the presence of a soul would not change my position on the issue. |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. slight flaw |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. God aborts two thirds of all feterlized eggs and zygotes |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. I am glad my my great, great, great, great, grand father met his wife |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Are you really pro-abortion? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
56. I'm not |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Are you pro-illegal abortion? I consider that to be the intellectually |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Bull. I am personally against abortion - I wouldn't have one. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Again |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. NOBODY is pro-abortion |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
59. We had "mind your own business" |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. God aborts two thirds of all feterlized eggs and zygotes |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. As for your statements about "God" |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. In my opinion, life starts after the celebral cortex is connected with |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Interesting |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Dr. Nicholas Fisk had an article on fetal sentience published in 1999 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Very interesting post. |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. with all due respect, this is why the issue needs to be reframed. I |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
63. I'm sorry for the personal tragedies |
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KaliTracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
85. thank you. but I do have to say your comparisons to gay marriage |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. I'm adopted.. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Interesting... |
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loudestchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
60. Hold on a minute. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. I'm glad |
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loudestchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. My children are 10, 6 and 3. So, no. I haven't discussed my "history" |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
80. "Choice is nothing but a loaded buzzword" |
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kaitykaity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Did she have a relative who died 30 years ago |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That framing comes right out of the Heritage Foundation, |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
67. Gee |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. How do you justify women being killed |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
68. I never said that |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Have you adopted |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Where is the mind your own business factor? |
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shoopnyc (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. GREAT DISTINCTION HERE... |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. I can see the logic here |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. We need one more vote to get this on the Greatest Page. My views are |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I have. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. Many people believe "pro-choice" means |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
18. Then Dean is ignorant if he believes that. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. You don't understand the politics of language do you? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
86. I understand very well. And to the next poster, I read well, too. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Dean didn't say that. Go to NBC's website and read the transcript. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
21. Words are symbols |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. Dean hit the nail on the head about the "language" of abortion!!! |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 07:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Exactly. He was saying we need to be responsible. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-05 12:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
87. Abortion isn't the problem. Unwanted pregnancy is. |
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Progressive4Life (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
25. Dean is da man! |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
40. I agree with that woman 100%. A law designed against women is |
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RAF (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
42. He made great points on "moral values" as well |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. that is an excellent point |
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keep CHOICES legal (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
45. Keep.......CHOICES Legal |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Welcome to DU. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. How would Dean have answered this question ??? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Here's what he said--was talking about third-term abortions/ethics. |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
52. For every difficult decision, someone is making a choice |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
53. Yeah, that was well-thought out. nt |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
54. kick |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
61. We need to make the point, over and over |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
64. Naw, I'm PRO-FEWER-ABORTIONS. Although Dean is getting closer. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
71. Dean did a great job on this issue. His best one in the interview. |
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