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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:36 AM
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Ralph Reed Scandal Blows Up
From DailyKos

Political Vine goes to town on Ralph Reed today in a scathing article that finally blows open this whole Ralph Reed gambling scandal. For those of you unfamiliar, and I imagine most of you are, Reed is running for Lt. Governor in Georgia in 2006 for the spot being vacated by Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mark Taylor. But he's been embroiled in scandal since he announced, most recently in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Ralph Reed delivered what was expected as a consultant to two Alabama anti-gambling campaigns: victories over proposals for a state lottery and video poker, and donations totaling $1.15 million. But Reed didn't tell the campaign organizations -- and, he insists, he didn't know -- that the money came from a Mississippi Indian tribe trying to protect its casinos from competition.

<snip>

Up to speed? Great, because now it gets juicy.

<snip>

So what is Grover Norquist's role in all this? Americans for Tax Reform wouldn't seem to play any role in all of this anti-gambling nonsense. Unless it were to do something like, oh, launder money...

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/19/172346/075


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:48 AM
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1. Reed is dirty
Maybe he should consult Bill Bennett.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:12 AM
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26. Reed apparently did something similar for Channel One in 1999
Channel One, of course, is the people who pipe commercials into our schools under the guise of education. And Preston, Gates and Ellis is the lobbying firm where where Jack Abramoff was hanging out at that time.


http://www.russbaker.com/American%20Prospect%20-%20Stealth%20TV.htm

February 12, 2001

When Republican Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, an ally of the ragtag band of Channel One opponents, initiated Senate hearings in 1999, Channel One dumped almost $1 million into a lobbying effort led by former Christian Coalition Director Ralph Reed and the powerful law firm of Preston, Gates, and Ellis--and effectively kept a lid on further action or hearings. Last spring a Shelby-sponsored sense-of-the-Senate resolution opposing commercialization of the schools was blocked by Republican Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas and heavy lobbying by Reed and former New York Senator Alfonse D'Amato.


http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm1999/99june/front3.html

In April 1998, Senator Shelby issued a news release expressing his concerns about Channel One and calling for Congressional hearings. Channel One was not pleased. Executives pulled out their check books and began writing $120,000 worth of checks to lobbyists in an effort to derail the hearings.

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As a result, the hearing was repeatedly delayed. Until this spring, when the hearing was set in stone for May 20, 1999. Then, all of a sudden, radio spots started airing in Alabama attacking Senator Shelby, implying that he was part of a left-wing plot to put the kibosh on the pro-Christian values of Channel One.

<snip>

The ad was sponsored by an unknown group called the Coalition to Protect Our Children. The group has a Montgomery, Alabama post office box. But it has no listed phone number. And Metrock says he knows of no organization in Alabama that endorses Channel One.

<snip>

"I asked Ralph Reed if he knew anything about this advertising campaign in Alabama," Metrock says. "He didn't say he didn't. He said that he just wasn't keeping up with that."

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:50 AM
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2. Well now Ralphie,
you are not what you pretend. Not like we did not already know that but this information is good. Too bad most people will either never hear about it or they won't care. He has been forgiven I am certain.

Thanks for posting this. It will be most interesting to follow.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:52 AM
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6. Pure smoke and mirrors
Hypocrite. I'm glad he got called out.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:50 AM
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3. This slick slimeball crafted the campaign against Max Cleland in 2002. Now
it's time for payback. BIGTIME.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:52 AM
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5. Ohhhh... I didn't know he was behind that travesty
That makes this news today even more welcome, I must say
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:35 AM
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27. Wasn't he also behind the John McCain smear in 2000?
I think I read that somewhere.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:46 AM
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45. Not sure about McCain. Reed is the GOP go-to-guy in Georgia. (eom)
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:31 AM
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47. Found it!
In an interview for The Buying of the President 2004 (HarperCollins), McCain told me that the same people who quietly assisted Bush in South Carolina in his 2000 primary showdown there also were involved in Georgia. The slander was "run by the same people, Ralph Reed . . . The same outfit, the same organizations, and I will never, ever get over them running a picture of Max Cleland, Saddam Hussein, and Osama bin Laden, a man who left three limbs on the battlefield in Vietnam. That's just something I will never get over."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0306-04.htm
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:50 AM
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4. This man Ralph Reed is really in deep...
He's involved in so many deep dirty things it is very frightening..

More on http://www.yuricareport.com
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:22 AM
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7. Isn't Ralph Reed a big Religious Reich Leader (the dread CC stormtroopers)
I thought Reed was at one time a leader of the dreaded CC of the RRR.

He has led the Christian Coalition Stormtroopers, aka Electoral Shock Troops of the Rabid Religious Reich, aka "Values Voters".

I thought Ralph Reed was a Man of God, a True Christian Leader. He could not be mixed up in anything like sinful games of chance, could he? Maybe I am confused about who we are talking about.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:25 AM
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8. That is who Ralph Reed is....
He is a member of this Council, the "real" government who claims to be representing the world democracy.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/22/155525/061
:patriot:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:26 AM
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9. No, you're not
That's why Bennett has kept his mouth shut. Losing 8 mil to casinoes is not exactly a family value.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:31 AM
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11. Still working for Microsoft..
getting $20K per month?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:40 AM
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32. I don't think they've fired him. They've been too busy justifying hiring
him. Jackasses.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:49 AM
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13. What you probably DON'T realize is
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:53 AM by jaysunb
The Christian Coalition, Rabid Rightwing, Evangelical movement et al, are out growths of the former White Citizens Council aka Klu Klux Klan.

The sheets have been updated to cheap suits......same crowd, different uniforms :evilgrin:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:56 AM
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15. I don't think Ralph's suits are cheap.
My suspicion is that they're damned expensive. Emphasis on the "damned."
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:02 AM
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17. The KKK has morphed into the much more evil, dangerous RRR

The Ku Klux Klan has morphed into the Rabid Religious Reich.


Dominionism's Theocratic Designs and Radical Clerics


Fundamentalist Radical Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism". Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics have developed and are executing a detailed plan to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 Presidential Election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing take place now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org

http://www.theocracywatch.org

The Religious Right - An Anti-American Terrorist Movement
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8816.htm

Antidote to Fundamentalist Nut-Cases is a Revival of the Freethought Movement


I think what we need is a Freethought movement similar to what the US had around the turn of the 20th century. Robert Ingersoll was touring the country, lecturing on secularism and exposing the claims of revealed religion to be false.

Unless something breaks the stranglehold of religious fundamentalism in the US - and in the world - I think we are going to continue the slide into Theocracy and destruction.

Would TV stations even dare run ads that exposed the claims of Christianity to be falsehoods? Could Freethinkers form an 'anti-Gideons' and leave copies of Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason" and Robert Ingersoll's "Why I am Agnostic" in hotel rooms? Could Freethinkers produce tracts and pamphlets showing the contradictions in the Bible and exposing the rip-off of dozens of pagan beliefs and their incorporation into Christianity?

Could we have a Second Enlightenment, a Second Age of Reason? Could we re-secularize a world gone mad with religious superstition?

Robert Ingersoll's "Why I Am Agnostic"
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/why_i_am_agnostic.html

Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason"
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/index.shtml

*****

From "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine (1795)

EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike. Each of those churches shows certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all.

When I am told that the Koran was written in Heaven, and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes to near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second hand authority as the former. I did not see the angel myself, and therefore I have a right not to believe it. When also I am told that a woman, called the Virgin Mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, Joseph, said that an angel told him so, I have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither Joseph nor Mary wrote any such matter themselves. It is only reported by others that they said so. It is hearsay upon hearsay, and I do not chose to rest my belief upon such evidence.

It is, however, not difficult to account for the credit that was given to the story of Jesus Christ being the Son of God. He was born when the heathen mythology had still some fashion and repute in the world, and that mythology had prepared the people for the belief of such a story. Almost all the extraordinary men that lived under the heathen mythology were reputed to be the sons of some of their gods. It was not a new thing at that time to believe a man to have been celestially begotten; the intercourse of gods with women was then a matter of familiar opinion. Their Jupiter, according to their accounts, had cohabited with hundreds; the story therefore had nothing in it either new, wonderful, or obscene; it was conformable to the opinions that then prevailed among the people called Gentiles, or mythologists, and it was those people only that believed it. The Jews, who had kept strictly to the belief of one God, and no more, and who had always rejected the heathen mythology, never credited the story.

It is curious to observe how the theory of what is called the Christian Church, sprung out of the tail of the heathen mythology. A direct incorporation took place in the first instance, by making the reputed founder to be celestially begotten. The trinity of gods that then followed was no other than a reduction of the former plurality, which was about twenty or thirty thousand. The statue of Mary succeeded the statue of Diana of Ephesus. The deification of heroes changed into the canonization of saints. The Mythologists had gods for everything; the Christian Mythologists had saints for everything. The church became as crowded with the one, as the pantheon had been with the other; and Rome was the place of both. The Christian theory is little else than the idolatry of the ancient mythologists, accommodated to the purposes of power and revenue; and it yet remains to reason and philosophy to abolish the amphibious fraud.


Consider a Freethought PAC to Run Attack Ads Exposing Religious Superstition on TV


I think what we need to counter this type of crap is a Freethought PAC - One that would run aggressive attack ads on TV. "Freethinkers for Truth", or something along those lines, to debunk religious superstition using 30 second TV attack ads. They could feature "Great Moments in American Secularism and Freethought" with "Great American Freethinkers" like Thomas Paine and Robert Ingersoll.

If TV stations would not run the ads, we could pull the same, "help, help, I'm being repressed!" crap that the fundies are always whining about. And of course the refusal to run the ads would draw attention to the works of Paine and Ingersoll, which are in themselves a very effective antidote to religious superstition.

The Freethought Zone
Science and Reason Over Religion and Superstition

http://freethought.freeservers.com /

Freedom from Religion Foundation
http://www.ffrf.org /

Secular Humanism
http://www.secularhumanism.org /

Secular Web
http://www.infidels.org/index.shtml

Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/index.shtml

Complete Works of Robert Ingersoll - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/index.shtml

Evolve Fish - Your One-Stop Shop for Freethought Materials
http://www.evolvefish.com

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:41 AM
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28. .
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:49 PM
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34. WOW. A picture REALLY IS worth a thousand words
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:49 PM by NAO
My diatribe against the Dominionist/Radical Clerics/Fundamentalists has continued to become more and more lengthy and wordy.

I thought I had made the most succinct statement possible with "The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) has morphed into the Rabid Religious Reich (RRR)", but your Rethug Elephant with hood and burning cross logo makes the same point in a powerful visual way!

Very cool. Thanks.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:56 PM
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40. that's why
all totalitarian regimes target artists.
thanks for your high praise.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:31 AM
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10. these scum are all criminals
every single one of them is a crooked, immoral sleazeball

I can't believe that 10s of millions of Murkans support this cabal of corruption
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:37 AM
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12. It's been in the Alabama papers
Edited on Fri May-20-05 01:37 AM by Elwood P Dowd
The brainwashed fundies down here are getting restless and defensive.
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:51 AM
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14. Two more votes for Greatest -please
This is good stuff!! I absolutely loathe that jerk. I knew the first time I saw him he was a hypocritical windbag. Now, he's a crook too!
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:58 AM
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16. Yeah, well let's hope the Diebold machines don't put
him into office in Georgia anyway..

that's the problem, scumbags like him continue to thrive in a broken election system...

he will get whipped with a wet noodle just like enron execs... or other corporate CEO crooks...
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 02:10 AM
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18. Oh Please - Oh Please
take down that dangerously insane Gorver Norquist. Hope I hope.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:08 AM
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19. OOOOOH! Does this ever need some more LIGHT! Tentacles in all directions!
Recommended - let's follow the money trail and EXPOSE the corrupt hypocrites - not just Reed but all the others connected to this scandal.


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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:40 AM
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20. Ralph Reed makes me sick
What a Nancy-boy......
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:44 AM
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21. This is great news, thanks, Lwolf.
I have followed this guy for years and prayed that he would be exposed.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:47 AM
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22. Interesting tidbit
Ralph Reed, Grover Norquist, Karl Rove and Jack Abramoff are all alumni of the College Republican National Committee. Seems this crew goes way back with each other.

http://www.crnc.org/page.asp?LinkID=119

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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:25 AM
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25. The GOP has an extensive infrastructure for schooling political criminals.
Another place where Rove et al learned their craft when they were young and impressionable is the "Leadership Institute". Its longtime director, Morton Blackwell, made a rare foray into the limelight at the 2004 Republican National Convention, where he was caught handing out the "Purple Heart Bandaids" he'd designed. See http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17581 .
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:24 AM
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23. One would think that the media would run with story and
blast it all over the earth, eh? Especially when Grover Norquist is in on the scam.

Ralph Reed is a coward of the lowest sort. And this all goes right back into Tom DeLay's backyard.
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:22 AM
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24. Back to the front page
:kick:

:kick:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:02 AM
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29. Anybody sending the link
to Air America people? Franken? Randi?

We need to start from our strength and work outward to get this story out.
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azndndude Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:36 AM
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30. Here is one link on Ralph Reed changing story
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azndndude Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:38 AM
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31. Sorry wrong link, here is right one
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:41 PM
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33. The story is front page news in the Atlanta Journal Constitution today.
I detest Reed. He is in no way a Christian man or a good person.
He is scum.

Reed and I attended UGA at the same time in the early to mis 1980's.
Reed was forced to resign from the student paper, The Red & Black, because of charges of plagiarism. He wrote conservative opinion columns. He spewed crap on a weekly basis.

I found out (too late, couldn't attend) that he was making a speech, open to the public, at UGA a few weeks ago. He had an audience of the faithful: College Republicans. There was one brave young man (not a Republican) who asked him about the Indian Casino affair. Reed squirmed out of giving a straight answer.

We can not let him be elected to public office here in GA.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:06 PM
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35. Isn't Ralph Reed (R) that cute white boy with the nice smile?
:-)
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:13 PM
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37. Yeah, like he's one wing short of a fairy.
:evilfrown:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:12 PM
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36. It Doesn't matter. GA is owned by Diebold Election Systems
nuff said.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:19 PM
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38. Recommended, kicked.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:59 PM
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39. Direct Access to Bush
As important as the Reed gambling money is, Grover Norquist taking $1.5 million to deliver meetings with Bush is more important.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=889
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:36 PM
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41. Thanks for posting
Hope to see him in Prison Orange, soon.

Kicked and nominated...
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:41 PM
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42.  Ralph Makes me want to ............Ralph
He is such a slimeball
He makes me want to hurl a Robertson
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:57 PM
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43. Howdy doody in prison. Its my second most fondest dream.
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:34 AM
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44. Scandal won't phase that self-righteous prick.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:35 AM
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46. Goddamn hypocritical, misogynistic bastard!
I HATE that reptile Ralph Reed!

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