Kerry up now on CSpan 2..."raw grab for power"

[AnnInLa]

if you're interested

[CottonBear]

1. CSPAN2 link:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

He's laying into the Republicans.
Wow! What a one-two punch. First Byrd, then Kerry!
:woohoo:

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. thjey are doing a wonderful job

[maddezmom]

3. thanks for the heads up

:hi: listening now

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. Thank you. Tuned in now.

[wtmusic]

5. "Change the rules by BREAKING the rules!!!"

:spank:

[IChing]

6. Can you give us some quotes

thanks

[wtmusic]

7. "We've always done it without breaking the rules..."

Kerry on fire!

[CottonBear]

8. "We swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States."

Now quoting Jefferson: (Paraphrase) "The less we use our power the more we have..."

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

"We've always (done the business of the senate) without breaking the rules."

"We're not here to protect the president or a party, we're here to protect the governemnt."

Mentioning "close election"

"These people are choosing to serve the moment...not the people.."

[wtmusic]

9. "not to serve history, not to serve the American people,

but to serve a narrowly defined idealogical purpose..."

[wtmusic]

10. "What would we say to another country which started to play those games?"

making some great points

[CottonBear]

12. Kerry is brilliant and passionate.

"That's what's special about America: the protection of the minority...That's what we're fighting for...What would other countries think?...This is a dngerous time..."

"No matter how much time spent on the life story of Owen...it's a smoke screen about what this is really about: the right of the minority to hold the executive branch accountable."

edit: I can't type and spell at the same time!

[wtmusic]

13. No matter how much time is spent on the life of Priscilla Owen...

it is a smokescreen for what this fight is really all about...

the real fight is about the US Senate, about the Constitution, what kind of example we set...

this is about the Republican leadership and their quest for ABSOLUTE CONTROL of the Supreme Court

[CottonBear]

14. "This is about a raw grab for power...the control of the Supreme Court

Not even the precendent of history is guiding them..."

"The Republican Party has become the political extension of a religous movement (Quoting John Danforth)."

[wtmusic]

18. "I don't know what's happened to truth around here...

Senators continue to fall in line, turning out the script...

we have a budget that comes trillions of dollars short, that doesn't count the interest on the debt...

falsified numbers in Iraq...no accountability...fake newscasts paid for by the American people

[CottonBear]

25. Now mentioning fake newscasts and how * misled the American people.

"Now we find ourselves in a struggle between (senate tradition)and the view that any means justifies the victory..."

[wtmusic]

28. "George Orwell would be pleased

they changed the slogan (Trent Lott's own) from "Nuclear Option" to "Constitutional Option" heehee

[Just Me]

11. Indeed, Senator Kerry, these ARE dangerous times for democracy!

Indeed!!!

[wtmusic]

15. Somebody say this man wouldn't have been a GREAT president

I dare ya.

[Just Me]

20. My eyes are watering,...

,...this man would have made an incredible President. :cry:

This country seriously lost out on not having the opportunity to be led by John Kerry.

[Roxy66]

31. Things would be so different right now...... : (

[undeterred]

33. He is too smart for a lot of American voters

How could anyone not love this great American? You'd have to be stupid.

[Roxy66]

34. Thats why he lost...too many stupid people

[CottonBear]

38. It's True. Sad, but true. Too many stupid people. n/t

[zann725]

43. He didn't lose. He wasn't innaugurated 'cause Repugs own Voting Machines

Repeat that 5-8 Million times (the approximate number of votes Kerry ACTUALLY won by.) Votes which were stolen and/or manipulated by Diebold, etc.

[cbear70]

16. Wow

He makes me want to stand up and cheer...he is so incredible. How on earth is this man not the president...:applause:

[CottonBear]

17. Bu$h stole the fucking election, that's how.

:grr:

[seabeyond]

19. theft, wink n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Ohhh! "The New View"

I like that!

[PA Democrat]

22. Kerry used the word "LIE"

and is talking about the many LIES the Bush administration has told on Medicare prescription drug plan, Social Security, Iraq, the budget, etc. Nice to see some fire in Kerry today.

[yorkiemommie1]

23. wonderful, eloquent, forceful

speaking of Bush, Rove etc, seeking shorterm gains for ideological gains

speaking of falsified numbers in iraq, state newscasts 'paid for by amer. people', ... no accountability.

..new view 'any means justifies the ends, no matter what',,," demonize opponents whether true or not'


most excellent speech.

[PA Democrat]

26. You know, I can't help but compare his oratory skills to those of the

bumbling idiot in the White House.

[seabeyond]

24. i wanted to hear what kerry had to say on all this shit and lookie....

he speaks. and it is just grand. thank you kerry for talking to ....me.

[PA Democrat]

27. Republicans changed the name from "nuclear option" to

the "constitutional option". "George Orwell would be pleased."

Kerry is smokin'.

[CottonBear]

29. "The American people are being underestimated by this administration."

"Americans...recoiled at the term 'nuclear option'...but the majority's reaction was to change the slogan...from 'nuclear' to 'constitutional'"

"Well, you can change the slogan but not the truth."

Damn. He's amazing.

[AnnInLa]

30. "No Accountability"

Under this admin there is NO Accountability....for the budget (the interest on our debt is not even counted, any accountant would be fired, no accountability for the War in Iraq, No accountability for a bunch of other things he named, but I forgot. Said, people are so used to the lies, they don't trust anyone in Congress anymore...he got that right. He is on fire...love it!

Also said that our govt has become a wing of a religious movement...wow.

Said this is a grab for raw power...a grab that would be condemned if it was happening in any other country in the world.

Destroying the phrase, "up or down votes"...destroying other catch-phrases the pukes are using...

No pres. nominee should be excused from scrutiny by the minority

Damn Sam!

[CottonBear]

32. "If I had been president it would have never occured to me

to send people (nominees) up here (congress) without support from all sides."

HE IS PISSED. JUST DAMN!

[returnable]

35. Personally, I don't like it when Dems frame the issue as a "power grab"...

...even though it is.

But to the middle-of-the-road, uninformed voter, it just sounds like sour grapes from the minority party.

Schumer made some salient points yesterday, for example, but after awhile even I thought he started to sound whiny when he kept talking about "how much power do you need?" - and I'm on his side :hi: I just think there's a danger of unintentionally triggering a "well, to the victor goes the spoils" reaction.

I think they should highlight how this an ABUSE. Hammer that phrase home. That's a word that resonates.

[ProfessorGAC]

39. Too Many Already Think That, returnable

The point is to make sure that people know it IS a power grab, and that the victors in this republic do NOT get to grab for absolute power.

People already think this is a 'winner take all' system. We need to make sure people know it isn't true and that attempting to act like is a power grab.
The Professor

[returnable]

44. I agree with the sentiment...

...I just disagree with the language used.

I think by framing it in those terms, you risk turning off the voters who, as you've noted, already think this is a winner take all system. It's an argument that plays into the GOP's hands, who are trying to frame this as "crybaby Dems" whining about losing at the polls.

Then again, I might just be overreacting to hearing the same terms being used over and over again. Maybe I'm just burned out on the argument :hi:

But that was the reaction I had after listening to several speeches on the floor yesterday. I wanted to yell "shut up about the power grab already and start hammering 'em on the abusive hypocrisy."

[wtmusic]

36. "The actions of some senators today come closer

to rewriting the Constitution than defending it..."

[CottonBear]

37. "Shame. That is a disgrace to the oath, to the institution.."

This is regarding "changing the rules to break the rules."

[rodeodance]

40. kerry uses HIstory well to build his argument

[undeterred]

41. He is devastatingly thorough

I like that.

[reality based]

42. A great speech

One of his strongest points-- Senators have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution. The Constitution states that each house has authority to adopt its own rules of procedure. The contemplated changing the rules by breaking the rules violates the Constitution and those who vote for it violate their oath.

[rodeodance]

45. i suspect their will be a transcript available soon

[Rosco T.]

46. Kick for a Transcript link for us cuberats... n/m

[AllegroRondo]

47. Sadly, none of this will make the news tonight.

more Michael Jackson coverage instead.