Gary Bauer afraid of Christians being persecuted.....(victimology)

[AnnInLa]

From the radical right propaganda organ, AgapePress:
the following is from http://americablog.org

...One pro-family leader is worried that American Christians could be facing a new form of inquisition. Gary Bauer of the Campaign for Working Families senses that anti-Christian feelings are on the rise among some segments of America. He says he is concerned that born-again believers could be facing tough days ahead. "I'm concerned about the possibility of real persecution in the United States toward conservative Christians," Bauer states. "Harper's Magazine this week has a cover story entitled 'The Religious Right's War on America.' So there's a lot of rhetoric out there, very hateful rhetoric, aimed at traditional Christian conservatives -- and that can be very dangerous." Many Christian leaders have expressed their worry over the increase in "hate speech" aimed at Christians and the lack of public uproar over it.

First, bull - you people control everything. Second, yeah people hate you, because you're evil, un-American, Taliban bigots who want to turn our country into a 13th century far-right theocracy so you can oppress everyone you don't like. If you're not happy that people are on to you, take the next boat to Iran and move in with your like-minded brethren.

more at http://americablog.org

[trotsky]

1. Their life is not complete unless they can feel persecuted.

It's part of the fundie mindset.

[asjr]

9. It is the same old tactic. I wonder when they think they will

be thrown to the lions?

[ozymandius]

29. A religious zealot's standard M.O.

Every Christian like them is a victim. So they are therefore entitled to victimize everyone else.

Just look at the major players in the Bible. Victims all. For so many, that's all the reason need to justify their jackboot actions.

This makes me sick.

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. I hardly thinnk we are in for a new inquisition. I do worry, though, that

my fundagelical couterparts will do some inquisitioning of their own. :(

[Bob3]

3. And third

Harper's although a fine magazine is not the mouthpiece of the powerful that say the American Spectator is.

and fourth - Gary baby, just put down the crack pipe - the stuff makes you paranoid man. Really - smoke some weed and listen to the Dead for a while - it'll mellow you right out.

[mopaul]

4. boo frikkety hoo gary bauer you little monstrous puke

[neweurope]

23. This Barbara dog of yours is creepy :)

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[megatherium]

37. Gary Bauer had a lot to do with the slow response to AIDS

in the early 1980s, when it was only homosexuals and drug addicts who got the virus. He was an official in the Reagan administration who should have been the one to tell Reagan that AIDS was an ominous situation. Instead he and his colleagues decided to ignore it (AIDS got little funding until the mid-to-late 1980s).

So this little fuck has a lot of blood on his hands.

[TheFarseer]

5. People are confusing

occasionally being slightly annoyed and not getting your way 100% of the time with persecution. Persecution is being rounded up and put into concentration camps, not being able to get a job anywhere, having to practice your religion underground - is any of that going on? Persecution is not someone whining about you on TV or a message board and it's sure as hell not being told, "happy holidays"

[triguy46]

6. This is not persecution

No one has been crucified, stoned, imprisoned. We do not have to like these people or pretend to tolerate them.

They are experts at intolerance because they practice it so well. Their children wear shirts that say "God hates fags" and we are supposed to like it?

[leesa]

7. Well, they certainly SHOULD be after the way they have behaved!

Everyone should read this issue of Harpers. It's a great story. And always remember Bauer is a PNAC whore.

[Shoeempress]

8. Being tried and convicted for treason would not be persecution

when you re trying to overthrow the Government.

[Avalux]

10. Bully syndrome

The bulliers; those who pick on everyone else, turn the tables and act like victims when they are confronted with their actions.

Hey Gary - the hateful rhetoric comes from your side asshole.

[Orrex]

30. I'd go even further

"Hey Gary - the hateful rhetoric comes from your side asshole."

And not just his side asshole--also from his front asshole, his back asshole, his top asshole, and his bottom asshole, not to mention the asshole right under his nose.

[flordehinojos]

11. Gary Bugeye Bauer thinks the Christians are in for an Inquisition?

Might this be a form of his taking the focus off of what HE and the RIGHT WING CHRISTIANS are doing to peaceful, non-fanatics, God loving-God fearing Americans?

The things that these bugeyed people and their right wingnuts came come up with!

Although, I have to admit, I myself CRINGE these days whenever anyone around me utters the words, CHRISTIAN, RELIGION, GOD and I fear when I see people of other faiths like the muslim people I saw in K-mart last weekend and the hateful, hateful, hateful the manager there cast their way ... if eyes could kill, he would have killed them with his looks.

No, America is not safe, but it is the likes of him that is making America unsafe and a place where religion and God are no longer about Love and Peace but about Hate and War.

[coloradodem2005]

20. The thing is...

...these types have been around for years.

[flordehinojos]

27. but in this country never with the power that they have today.

[coloradodem2005]

40. True.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

12. WAAAAAAH!! No fair!

"You won't let me tell you how to live your life! We're tellin!

We .. we ... we'll *sniff* have nothing else to do..."


/end wishful thinking

[oddmanout]

13. Hmmmm...

Could someone please tell me where this vast pogrom is happening? Are they rounding up "Christians" and holding them in drive-in movie lots turned to concentration camps. Are they torturing them by forcing them to watch Christina Aguillara and Madonna videos?

This is so incredibly laughable, but it brings up eerie reminders of Hitlers early speeches about the Nazi's being persecuted by the Jews and communists in the Wiemar government.....

What is truly disturbing is that the rank and file true believers eat this shit up.

:dem:

[bushisanidiot]

His fear leads him to attack innocent religious and nonreligious americans

"in defense".

he would advocate the limits of everyone's freedoms around him so that he, and he alone can feel "safe".

that is not the type of fear/war mongering that this country was founded on.

[Kipling]

14. Talk about projection...

Sure. Everyone ELSE is a bigot.

[Brewman_Jax]

15. It's persecution only because...

the country is not the theocracy that has been their wet dream for many years--or the 1950's and the days of state-sponsored school prayer and before the civil rights era.

I wish that they'd go lock themselves in their churches and pray for our immortal souls...and leave us alone!

[KlatooBNikto]

16. What is next,slavemasters complaining of being persecuted for

holding slaves?

[Walt Starr]

17. Teh fucking majority in the country and he fears they'll be persecuted?

He's projecting what his fundie assed asshole followers do to other religions onto himself!

[Hubert Flottz]

18. I think he's pissed off because he's

a gay man trapped in a reich wing mad dog fundie's body! :puke:

[mwb970]

19. They must emulate the Ultimate Martyr. (n/t)

[mopaul]

21. pat robertson's been selling this shit for decades

oh we poor bornagain crazies are being crucified like our lord.

puke me out

[CoffeeCat]

22. It's not about a specific RELIGION, Gary---

....It's about RADICALS WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OUR CONSTITUTION!

If a rabid group of frothing Buddhists, Muslims or Hindus attempted to establish their religion into every crevice of our government---they'd be met with the same outrage.

It's not about Christianity, Gary. It's about theocrats who love their beliefs more than they respect our Founding Fathers.

Gary is playing the fear card with the Fudies. He's further dividing America into camps: Those who are Christian and those who hate Christians. This vitriolic pack of lies is the handiwork of an abuser. Abusers need family members who lack unity, because it prevents revolt against the abuser.

When will America see through this sickness?

[Just Me]

24. Whoah. I'm glad I don't live in that guy's weird world.

I really can not believe he is serious. I believe he is being manipulative. He's scaring people to provoke them into continuing their blind hatred towards anyone who's not a member of their extremist club.

[Solly Mack]

25. Would someone pat that man on the head and coo at him, please?

He badly needs attention and is going about it the wrong way.

There, there, Gary. ::patpatpat:: It'll be alright. Just rest your nerves. ::patpatpat:: Good boy! Now sit. Play dead. Stay.

[Bridget Burke]

26. "Christianity Under Attack" (Please Send Money)

If you’re intellectually sensitive to the presuppositions underlying current events, you’ve already seen the explicit agenda of humanists to silence the Christian voice in America.

No doubt you are greatly disturbed by the efforts of secularists, pluralists, and false religious groups to remove the Judeo-Christian God “from every post and pillar.” The following is just a few of the wicked strategies imposed by such humanist organizations as the American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, and other secular and false religious groups:

*The persecution of Chief Justice Roy Moore in Alabama

* The judicial attempts to remove Christian symbols, such as the nativity, from every public place

* The elimination of public prayer from every local and federal institution

* The promotion of gay marriage in Massachusetts and San Francisco

* The unhindered encroachment of Islam throughout Western nations

www.chalcedon.edu/underwriters.php

The Chalcedon Foundation, founded by the late R J Rushdoony, has been called the "think tank" of the Christian Right. They hate almost everybody--including most other Christians. Yet their influence continues to grow.

And, yes, the page I've linked ends in an invitation to send money--lots of money.

[Vogon_Glory]

28. Religious Right Sowing Whirlwind For Anti-Clericalism

I doubt that the Religious Right knows what sort of whirlwind it's sowing. By blindly supporting the Banana Republicans' reactionary anti-family, anti-workingman, pro-corruption, pro-kleptocratic agenda, the Religious Right has firmly associated itself with some of the worst impulses in American politics and the sleaziest, most corrupt party regime in over a century. Whether he and his ilk want to admit it, the Religious Right has earned itself a well-deserved, dubious place as praise-singers and psalmists to corruption, indifference to the meek and the suffering, deceit, and neglect.

I expect that some of the Bible-wavers will continue their support for the Republicans. But many of the more secular as well as the more liberal believers have seen the Religious Right give the evangelical and fundamentalist sectors of American Christianity the same sort of black eye that reactionary Catholic clerics gave the Roman Catholic Church in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth century.

[GoldenOldie]

33. Gary Bauer and his fellow Pharisee's afraid of losing their own power.

"Campaign for Working Families." These little power-hungry individuals/groups give themselves a name/title that can sucker in the indiviudals who maybe struggling or feel they are powerless against the rest of the world. Just what has Gary Bauer and his fellow pharisee's like Robertson, Falwell, Dobson.....all with their own individual power titles, actually done for any individual Christian, family, American or groups?

The pharisee's seem to be living high-on-the hog, with luxury homes, cars, private jets. Training their sons/daughters to ascend to thier thrones when they are no longer capable.

Thte Gary Bauer's could care less if christians are persecuted.....what they do care about is losing control of their wealth and power.

[ktowntennesseedem]

31. Jesus said that those who are persecuted are blessed. However...

Jesus put a few disclaimers on that blessed status, namely that you are blessed when others falsely accuse you, and when the source of that persecution is non-believers: the same "enemies" that you are supposed to love, those toward whom you should turn the other cheek, the persecutors you are supposed to pray for.

The problem with the "persecution" that Gary and Co. are whining about is that the accusations of hatred, bigotry, intolerance, etc., are not false but are very true and entirely justified. And secondly, the "persecution" is not just coming from non-believers, (who by the way are feeling no love, receiving no prayers, and seeing no cheeks being turned their way), but it's coming from many others who count themselves as believers, who are ashamed by such pious and phony rhetoric, and who refuse to let Gary and other self-appointed prophets speak on their behalf.

Sorry, Gary, but your faith is not being persecuted -- your lies are being exposed.

:evilgrin:

[The Magistrate]

32. That Is An Excellent Line, Sir!

"Your faith is not being persecuted --- your lies are being exposed."

Simply beautiful....

[ktowntennesseedem]

39. Thank you!

I kinda liked it myself!

[giant_robot]

34. All of this while the right-wing administration is pushing an extension of

the Patriot act? Oh yeah, *they're* the ones that need to fear persecution. :sarcasm:

[napi21]

35. I doubt there'll be persecution, but hate is caused by THEM

always demanding to have their way or the highway! They wanted to be in the spotlight, and now they are! TS that they don't like the criticism that goes along with that!

[GreenArrow]

36. Ha Ha Ha

If there is to be any persecuting of Christians (and there will be), that little turd Bauer will be one of the ones carrying thumbscrews and burning brands.

[annabanana]

38. afraid of Fristians being persecuted......

Their outlook on the world is so un-Christian it's astonishing.