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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:25 PM
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They read Newsweek in Afghinstan?
Edited on Wed May-18-05 10:39 PM by tyedyeto
I heard from a freeper that the only reason they know about this story is that WE told them via the Afghan equivilent of America Free ______.

So Newsweek had a bogus story and we broadcast that story via the radio waves to Afghanistan. The Afghani's protested/rioted and it's all Newsweek's fault?

Where did they get the 'bogus' info that has been published numerous times since 2003? From the 'official' US gov't run radio station in Afghanistan.

What's wrong with this picture???
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:41 PM
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1. self indulgent kick... n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:42 PM
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2. In Iraq within 10 days every NewsTweak has become ButtWipe..
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:47 PM
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3. the story is to cover up Musharif slaughtering 15 peaceful demonstrators.!
the demonstrators were peacefully picketing against the Permanent Bases in Afghanistan.. maybe they remembered how the Russians started..?? this was all to cover up that we were building the bases and that Musharif got off our leash and murdered his own citizens.. or maybe he was under Bu$h's orders to quell all demonstrations..??
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:51 PM
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5. So...
I can understand how we would want to cover that up...

But the press has been reporting that Afghani's by the thousands are 'protesting the Newsweek article'. How the fuck do they know Newsweek from any other rag published here in Amerika?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:36 AM
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22. US General, Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, said Newsweek article had
nothing to do with the demonstrations and riots.

But then, what would HE know about it!

:sarcasm:
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:53 AM
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25. I did find some articles...
that mentioned demonstrations against permanent US bases there. Just a passing mention as most of the articles were about Newsweek.

You're right tho, what would the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman know about this? Guess he's 'out of the loop'?
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:33 AM
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14. BTW, Afghanistan and Pakistan are different countries. n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:57 AM
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17. Riots over this article in Newsweek have occurred ...
in many countries, including Pakistan.
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:08 AM
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19. But the 15 people were killed in Ghazni, which is part of Afghanistan. n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:34 AM
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21. I did some googling and yes...
the deaths were in Afghanistan not Pakistan. Don't know what the poster was talking about.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:49 PM
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4. Great, great point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:53 PM
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6. The only explanation I have is that....
Edited on Wed May-18-05 10:54 PM by tyedyeto
the US gov't is telling them about it!

Edit for grammar
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:37 PM
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9. Why are the Newsweek people such suck-ass wimps?
Seriously, you figured it out. All that Ivy League talent and they don't have one person who says, 'this is bull shit, lets nail them.'

They should hire George Galloway as their communications director.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:42 PM
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10. Because the * admins knew they'd cave....
I just don't understand why, all of a sudden, this Koran/Qur'an abuse is 'the' story. There are many other published reports of this type of incident. Why now?

And where did the Afghani's who were protetesting/rioting hear this latest info? I know they don't read Newsweek. They had to get it from the US gov't.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:05 AM
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12. Maybe Rove just got bored one day...
...says, screw it, we're not getting anything passed, don't care about 2006 elections much, got plenty to retire on...oh, I've got it, lets mess with the media, they're such patsies. hmmm...yeah, we'll blame anti US violence on the Newsweek article. i'll bet you a franklin, we can pull it off. they are such pussies!

Sound about right.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:25 AM
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13. Good scenario...
and the sad part is, it's probably true.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:50 AM
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23. This could be good for all of us...war on the press instead of people.
Well,OK, the press are people but the administration can get their "war fix" just by humiliating them and making them betray their ethical and professional mission.

Hey Rove, forget Iran, go after the NYT, WaPost, etc. It will feed your need.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:55 PM
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7. According to my daughter
(my Afghanistan resource--she was stationed there for a year in the army) the illiteracy rate is astronomical. That's why we were going to build all those schools remember? A lot is wrong with this picture.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:11 PM
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8. Yep...every Afghani must read Newsweek!
An order to be obeyed?

The story had barely been printed before the 'riots' began.
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rigel434 Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:42 PM
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11. Muslim anger ...
while we're on the subject of Muslim anger- I wonder if Fred Phelps will face a fatwa if Muslims see this:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/may2005/20050519_week-726.pdf

Salman Rushdie got a death sentence for far less. Would hate that link to be sent to Arab websites.

Btw, I can't post a new thread (not enough posts) so if someone would like to make a separate thread about Phelps' flier, that would be ok with me. I think old Fred might have picked a fight with the wrong guys and I wouldn't be too upset if they found out about it.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:47 AM
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28. Hi rigel434!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:49 AM
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15. Newsweek offers international subscriptions
to europe, the middle east and africa.

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in Afghanistan is an illiterate goathearder or opium grower.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:04 AM
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18. I truely wasn't trying to imply that all Afghanis are illiterate.
Just pondering how the deadly rioting gained steam over there. Did our gov't spread this in order to take the heat off other problems the * administration is having at this time?
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:52 AM
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16. I don't think that the Newsweek story was "bogus".
http://www.juancole.com/2005/05/has-newsweek-retracted-update.html

The issue was taken up by Pakistani politicians who do read Newsweek. Only then it was reported by local media.
Many may be illiterate in Afghanistan, but they listen to radio news. For example, the BBC Pashto Service is very well respected, as is the BBC World Service among those who understand English.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pashto/index.shtml

We should not make the mistake of blaming the messenger.
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:43 AM
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27. "Red Cross told U.S. of Koran incidents"
By Cam Simpson and Mark Silva
Washington Bureau
Published May 19, 2005

WASHINGTON -- The International Committee of the Red Cross documented what it called credible information about U.S. personnel disrespecting or mishandling Korans at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility and pointed it out to the Pentagon in confidential reports during 2002 and early 2003, an ICRC spokesman said Wednesday.

Representatives of the ICRC, who have played a key role in investigating abuse allegations at the facility in Cuba and other U.S. military prisons, never witnessed such incidents firsthand during on-site visits, said Simon Schorno, an ICRC spokesman in Washington.

But ICRC delegates, who have been granted access to the secretive camp since January 2002, gathered and corroborated enough similar, independent reports from detainees to raise the issue multiple times with Guantanamo commanders and with Pentagon officials, Schorno said in an interview Wednesday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1484302
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:31 AM
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20. I'm SO SURE it gets delivered there the day it's released. Yeah.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:53 AM
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24. I'm sure it's in every Afghani doctor's office on the little table...
in the corner of the CAVE!
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:58 AM
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26. ROTFLMAO! n/t
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