Operation Save America burns the Koran

[welshTerrier2]

source: http://www.operationsaveamerica.org/streets/oh/Columbus/suspected-muslim-terrorist-present.htm



The group's motto is: "Jesus is the standard" ... it appears from their actions that this standard does not include religious tolerance.

[Mizmoon]

1. Whatever

I just hope they don't go apeshit if someone named Ali burns a bible on TV.

[tjwmason]

3. The 'irony' being that burning the Qur'an is far more insuLting

to IsLam than burning the BibLe is to Christianity.

[Mizmoon]

6. Pshaw - you haven't met my Fundie M-I-L

I assure that many Christians would take umberage with the assertion that the Koran is somehow "more sacred" than the Bible.

I'm not even religious and I think that's a silly assertion.

*edit for spelling*

[tjwmason]

16. According to the BibLe, the BibLe is DivineLy inspired

According to the Qur'an, the Qur'an was directLy dictated by God himseLf.

Those Christian who take umbrage misunderstand IsLam (which is most of the fundies I have come across).

Show me the Christian who refuses any version of the BibLe except the Hebrew/Aramaic O.T. and the Greek N.T. ands you may have a point - Last I saw the fundies aLL worshipped the A.V. which dates from 1611. Who refuses to aLLow non-Christians to touch the BibLe. Who wiLL aLways pLace the BibLe in the physicaLLy highest pLace in the room.

The Qur'an IS IsLam, the BibLe informs Christianity.

[northzax]

17. dude, fix your keyboard

it's annoying :)

[ovidsen]

37. Funny :)

I haven't even cracked 100 posts yet and I already know the capital L symbolizes Liberal... oh well!

I guess I got lucky. ;)

[northzax]

39. it's also a reference to

oh never mind, it ain't worth rehashing again.

when one person did it, it was quaint. more than one? annoying. but that is, of course, just my opinion, and I'm not to 10,000 yet, so it doesn't really matter, I guess...

[ovidsen]

46. Yer right....

It was kind of silly for me to bring it up. There are more serious issues facing us.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...:hi:

[mopaul]

2. right on cue

the idiots are always on standby

[slackmaster]

19. Read the Web page - Incident happened almost a year ago

:shrug:

[sinkingfeeling]

4. Will the White House force them to write a fake 'news' story on

how Americans uphold the 1st. Amendment?

[ET Awful]

5. Is that guy wearing a shirt that says "untolerant"?

It appears to say Jesus something underneath as well, but I can't make it out.

Where the HELL did these dumbasses learn to spell?

[slackmaster]

18. It looks like "INTOLERANT" to me

Maybe it's just my automatic proof reader working; but in either case his message is clear enough.

[neweurope]

7. Just keep up the good work, Americans, you'll land us all

in hell. My, but your country frightens me.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[lastliberalintexas]

20. Don't worry- it frightens many of us too

[neweurope]

29. I know and I know it's unfair to generalize. I also know that my

own country has it's share of right wing idiots and that they'll start marching as soon as someone starts drumming... But in the US the drumming has already started. :scared:

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[lastliberalintexas]

33. Oh, I certainly didn't take your post that way!

I just meant that you're not alone in your fears! :)

[neweurope]

34. Thanks :)

:pals:


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[TornadoTN]

8. Wow, just wow

What a bunch of insane lunatics! I love the shirt on the guy in the background "INTOLERANT". Yeah, thats a real model Christian created in Gods image and following the footsteps of Jesus! We all know Jesus hated so many people and spoke about it often! :sarcasm:

Amazingly enough, most of the Muslims that I know are very tolerant of Christianity. They respect the bible and Christian beliefs, because they are very similar and have many overlapping characteristics.

Of course, this was a radical right-wing group, but its not too far-fetched from all the "rag-head" hating that is being forced on us daily from this administration and right-wing. I just wonder what the reaction will be when one of the Right-Wing groups in the mid east decides to burn a bible?

[TornadoTN]

9. Self Delete

[mopaul]

10. pushing armageddon

these people will not be appeased

[SalmonChantedEvening]

11. Note the little ones in the pic

Nothing sicker than polluting young minds. For a photo op no less.

:puke:

[PleadTheFirst]

12. Pack of idiots.

Isn't there some way we could just pair up religious extremists and let them kill each other? Take one Jihadist and one of these fuckheads in the picture above and lock them in a room together? Then when the screams die down and only one of the fools can walk out of the room under his own steam, we lather, rinse and repeat with another opposite religious extremist? Kind of like "Celebrity Death Match" for hatemongers who think their belief system is the only one on earth.

Normal, non-violent people of any faith as well as athiests and any other member of the reality-based community could then go about the buisness of their lives.

Just a thought.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

26. hehe, i like that idea

bravo!

:hi:

[slor]

13. More like "Operation Save American from...

Intelligent Thinking". Who the fuck are these idiots?

[mopaul]

14. these people are our number one threat

though most doubt it.

[Toots]

15. Vile People will never be called Liberal

:shrug:

[paineinthearse]

21. This should go directly to the HOME page

NOW!

[slackmaster]

22. It's OLD NEWS

For anyone who hasn't bothered to click on the link in the original article,

Jad Humeidan was spotted at Columbus City Hall, Thursday July 22, 2004, when Operation Save America (OSA) burned a "gay" flag, a copy of Roe vs. Wade and a Muslim "holy" book, the Koran. Mr. Humeidan, camera in hand, took picture after picture of OSA Director Flip Benham....

[paineinthearse]

25. Then I with draw my request, news should not be widely distributed

We and the general public already know this, there is no story here, break it up and move along, nothing to see here, folks.

[slackmaster]

27. What is the purpose of dredging this item up?

Are you trying to fan the fires of hatred by, or of Muslims?

[welshTerrier2]

41. old news with very current relevance ...

what kind of campaign are you on here ???

we have a right-wing, religious fundamentalist government ... we have a government that is abusing Muslims they captured ... we have a government that does not recognize the Geneva convention ... we have a government that tortures people who have been convicted of nothing ...

and we have very current news, and an associated cover-up, that to further dehumanize their prisoners, guards were flushing the Koran down the toilet ... that is CURRENT NEWS ...

the fact that i found an old story (less than a year old) that shows that many of the nutcases in the religious fundamentalist movement have no tolerance for other religions is only "OLD NEWS" is you have a basis to believe their attitudes have changed ... trust me, they have not ...

this is not "dredging up old news"; it is reflecting the current truth of religious intolerance in the much of the US and its holier than thou fundamentalist community ... it is the message the rest of the world should understand about the religious zealotry that has our government in its grip because the message it sends is the truth ...

is it also irrelevant to bring up that the US sold weapons to Saddam? is it also irrelevant to bring up that the US has a long history of invading other sovereign nations to exploit their resources? is it also irrelevant to continue to raise issues like Abu Ghraib ...

the truth of the present is often best understood by looking at our history ...

[slackmaster]

42. I'm on a "stop beating dead horses" campaign

we have a right-wing, religious fundamentalist government ... we have a government that is abusing Muslims they captured ... we have a government that does not recognize the Geneva convention ... we have a government that tortures people who have been convicted of nothing ...

So what is the value in bringing up a year-old news item about something a PRIVATE group did, which is likely to piss Muslims off even more? Didn't the Newsweek debacle of last week result in enough extra deaths of innocent people to satisfy you?

[welshTerrier2]

44. our very own Pat Buchanan ???

sorry but i couldn't disagree more ... i was listening to AAR yesterday and whoever the host was played a quote from Pat Buchanan ... Mr. Buchanan stated, and i paraphrase, that it didn't matter whether the Newsweek article was true or it wasn't ... He said Newsweek shouldn't have reported the story either way ...

am i to understand that you share the same position?

if you do, here's my response: we cannot allow our government to do whatever it wants to whomever it wants ... sometimes the truth hurts but we cannot allow the American public to elect and support a government that hides the truth from its citizens ... because, if we don't know the truth, i can't see how we can have a democracy ...

where will you draw the line on "enough extra deaths of innocent people"? will there be fewer deaths if this right-wing government is allowed to escape prosecution because the media use their judgment and decide whether reporting the truth is in the national interest or could affect international relations? how about reporting the news and turning this corrupt government, or at least those responsible, over to an international tribunal? we are engaged in a battle for truth and justice ... those who claim the high ground must be shown to be the hypocrites they are ...

just where will you draw the line on your suppression of free speech? suppose it is true (someone posted this on DU today) that the US has underreported the real numbers of Americans killed in Iraq ... suppose the real number, as this post claimed, was really 9000 instead of the widely reported 1600 ... suppose that providing the real number gives aid and comfort to "the enemy" and demoralizes American troops ... would you like to cover that up as well?

suppose that the press had been able to prove that bush was lying about WMD in Iraq before the invasion began ... but suppose bush told them that Saddam was killing hundreds of thousands in his own country and the WMD was the only excuse the American people would accept to go to war ... should the press remain mum in that situation so that we could invade and save all those innocent Iraqis? again, where do you draw the line ???

i share your concern for the backlash our government's hideous conduct is likely to cause ... but i don't share your remedy ... get the truth out so that the American people understand the evil that exists in their government ... government should be conducted in the light of day ... the costs of telling the truth may at times be very high; but in most cases covering it up will cause far more damage ... in a democracy, the people have got to know the truth ...

[slackmaster]

45. You're reading way too much into my statement

I was reacting to the knee-jerk reaction by other participants in this thread that seemed (and I may have been mistaken) to indicate that they were under the impression this little weenie-and-koran roast was late-breaking news.

where will you draw the line on "enough extra deaths of innocent people"? will there be fewer deaths if this right-wing government is allowed to escape prosecution because the media use their judgment and decide whether reporting the truth is in the national interest or could affect international relations?

The article under discussion concerns the actions of private individuals, not the government. It seemed to me the timing of starting a thread about it on DU without making it clear the incident happened a year ago and not last week was tacky, and a lot of people seem eager to jump on it as if it is a current event.

i share your concern for the backlash our government's hideous conduct is likely to cause ... but i don't share your remedy ... get the truth out so that the American people understand the evil that exists in their government ... government should be conducted in the light of day ... the costs of telling the truth may at times be very high; but in most cases covering it up will cause far more damage ... in a democracy, the people have got to know the truth ...

Once again, the incident under discussion here was not an act of government.

[nolabels]

23. They should just burn the whole library

It's quite obvious most of them don't know how to read anyway.
Besides we wouldn't want them smart people getting any smarter, it's just too scary for all of us ignorant people :argh:

[paineinthearse]

24. Square this

From http://www.operationsaveamerica.org/streets/oh/Columbus/suspected-muslim-terrorist-present.htm



vs.

The spirit of Elijah is sweeping across the nation calling the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers.
Malachi 4:6

As I recently heard Lewis Black say, the Christians thought that the Old Testement was not good enough and had to write a better book. In that sense, they cannot have their cake and eat it, too. Choose the old or the new, but follow them in the spirit of love and compassion.

[Ganja Ninja]

28. All I can say is Newsweek better not publish this.

Otherwise they will be responsible for the hate this stirs up.:freak:

[LostinVA]

30. Lotta necks look mighty red in that photo n/t

[Arwennick]

35. Bull

I don't see one dog or a Budweiser or a pick-up in that picture.No self respecting redneck would join that rabble.

[PurityOfEssence]

31. Holy War, Batman!

I must say, though, that this quote's mighty inflammatory...

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."

No wonder their tight white briefs are in such a twist...

[Sleepless In NY]

32. kick

[0rganism]

36. At least they didn't flush it down the toilet

WBWJB?

(which books would Jesus burn?)

[kiki]

38. Jesus Christ...

What a bunch of sorry fat sacks of shit.

Hey, we should keep quiet about this. Remember, if any Muslims find out about it, the whole incident will be DU's fault, not the fault of the pig-fucking retards who actually did it. :eyes:

[progressivebydesign]

40. At what moment did Americans become a bunch of dumbasses?

I'm just wondering.. where did we go wrong? Why did dressing like a slob, acting like an asshole, and refusing to read a book, or apparently bathe, become the standard?

Perhaps there is civilized life somewhere outside America...

[slackmaster]

43. We blew it in 1791 when we let President Washington tax whisky

It's been going downhill ever since.

(Edited to correct the year the whisky tax was enacted.)

[KittyWampus]

47. Now That's Putting It In A Nutshell....

America's watershed moment was the Whiskey Tax Enactment.

:toast: