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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:56 PM
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It's a Bloody Shame that a Scot has the guts to confront G.O.P. assholes,
Edited on Tue May-17-05 01:09 PM by mopaul
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3672646&mesg_id=3672646

...with the truth about the iraq war and the lies and the thousands who've died in vain...

...and not ONE FUCKING DEMOCRATIC LEADER IN AMERICA can match Mr. Galloway's rhetoric to that asshole coleman. it's a fucking bloody shame.

it's a bloody, crying, fucking shame that we have to rely on a member of British parliament, from the very nation we rebelled against in our revolution, over just such bullshit, to confront our maniac right wing warpigs.

it's a bloody, democratic shame.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:58 PM
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1. he was so ready for them
and they were speechless.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:58 PM
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2. Agreed.
:(
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:59 PM
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3. That's because
every Dem rep or senator here has constituents fighting in Iraq.

Shouldn't make a difference, but it does.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:05 PM
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That wasn't the case BEFORE the war started, was it?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:08 PM
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23. Right
it doesn't absolve anyone. Admitting they were just plain wrong is way out of fashion these days.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:24 PM
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18. Small point, but he likely has constituents in Iraq, as well.
Galloway takes on US oil accusers
<snip>

"At this month's UK general election, Mr Galloway narrowly beat Labour's Oona King to win the Bethnal Green and Bow constituency, in East London, for his fledgling Respect party."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4556113.stm



Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:01 PM
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4. Well, there really is a big difference ya know.
The Brit doesn't have to give ANY thought to elections in the US. Like it or not, the Pubs & the Dems constantly weigh every word for possible repercussions from somewhere.

There's also the BIG difference between the way the two governments act all the time. Even Galloway said that in an interview after his testimoney. He mentioned that the people of the US aren't used to my kind of talk, but that's the way we do it in parliment.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:13 PM
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11. ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHH
The Brit doesn't have to give ANY thought to elections in the US. Like it or not, the Pubs & the Dems constantly weigh every word for possible repercussions from somewhere.
What happened to standing up for what you believe in and speaking the truth? Fucking elections is that what this is all about? It's more important to cover your ass and make sure everyone likes you? You have hit the nail on the head sad but true. No fucking wonder I drink.:argh: :banghead:
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:19 PM
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15. It's the most important special interest group - the politician himself.
Getting re-elected is what's in his/her best interest.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:33 PM
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20. So that's the reason I drink so much
Thanks for pointing that out. God damn nogood democratic woosies!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:02 PM
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5. Coleman had absolutely NO idea what he was getting himself into...
...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:03 PM
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6. Wow, a person willing to defend themselves against Busco!!!
How refreshing. I would be insulted if a little prick like Norm Coleman accused me of high crimes. I hate that little bastard.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:05 PM
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7. coleman looked like dracula at high noon with a stake up his ass
did you see the look on norm's face after galloway fucked him without so much as a reacharound? it was glorious!!!!
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:06 PM
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8. Galloway's an onry scot
and in british politics, speaking directly to opposition is done
regularly.... he's got lotsa experience... and i'm proud of him.

He does scotland well. He got to deliver the message that millions
drool over delivering, and he's done it with such style and finesse.

Those goatfucker repubes are so used to no opposition, they're in
shock... :-) Finally!

A Scottish friend, Galloway, is an ambassador of truth!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:09 PM
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9. I love the Scotts!
thanks for the correction. my son in law is a scot as well.
time for a whiskey soaked haggis!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:34 PM
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21. If it's nay Scot, it's crap!
And I say this as a Scottish American, if there is such a thing. ;)
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rjbcar27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:10 PM
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10. Love him or hate him, Galloway just rocked.
Don't really have much time for him my self, but he totally blew me away with that performance.

The cut and thrust and combative nature of British politics really helped him then!

Hope lots of you Americans saw it.
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denese Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:17 PM
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12. At least someone did it
We should be thankful for that.
Yes, it would be better if our American Senators and Reps would do it. But we're drowning here in Bushshit and I see no reason to be too terribly concerned who throws the life preserver.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:18 PM
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13. There's a video on the MSNBC site of lots of this testimoney.
I didn't know if anyone had missed it, or maybe just wanted to hear it again!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7883488/
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:19 PM
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14. It's just that Dennis Kucinich never gets TV airtime when he does it:
Edited on Tue May-17-05 01:20 PM by Zorra
Rep. Kucinich Calls for an End to
the War on the Floor of the House
by Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich, April 1, 2003
snip----
"Stop the war now. This war has been advanced on lie upon lie. Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. Iraq was not responsible for any role al-Qaeda may have had in 9/11. Iraq was not responsible for the anthrax attacks on this country. Iraq did not tried to acquire nuclear weapons technology from Niger. This war is built on falsehood.

"Stop the war now. We are not defending America in Iraq. Iraq did not attack this nation. Iraq has no ability to attack this nation. Each innocent civilian casualty represents a threat to America for years to come and will end up making our nation less safe. The seventy-five billion dollar supplemental needs to be challenged because each dime we spend on this war makes America less safe. Only international cooperation will help us meet the challenge of terrorism. After 9/11 all Americans remember we had the support and the sympathy of the world. Every nation was ready to be of assistance to the United States in meeting the challenge of terrorism. And yet, with this war, we have squandered the sympathy of the world. We have brought upon this nation the anger of the world. We need the cooperation of the world, to find the terrorists before they come to our shores.

"Stop this war now. Seventy-five billion dollars more for war. Three- quarters of a trillion dollars for tax cuts, but no money for veterans ' benefits. Money for war. No money for health care in America, but money for war. No money for social security, but money for war. We have money to blow up bridges over the Tigris and the Euphrates, but no money to build bridges in our own cities. We have money to ruin the health of the Iraqi children, but no money to repair the health of our own children and our educational programs.

"Stop this war now. It is wrong. It is illegal. It is unjust and it will come to no good for this country.

http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2003/04/01_kucinich_end-house-war.htm

Vote "NO'' On Iraq War Resolution US
Statement by Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), October 3, 2002
Before the House of Represenatives

The American people deserve to know that the key issue here is that there is no proof that Iraq represents an imminent or immediate threat to the United States of America. I will repeat: there is no proof that Iraq represents an imminent or immediate threat to the United States. A continuing threat does not constitute a sufficient cause for war. The administration has refused to provide the Congress with credible evidence that proves that Iraq is a serious threat to the United States and that it is continuing to possess and develop chemical and biological and nuclear weapons.

Furthermore, there is no credible evidence connecting Iraq to al Qaeda and 9-11, and yet there are people who want to bomb Iraq in reprisal for 9-11. Imagine, if you will, as Cleveland columnist Dick Feagler wrote last week, if after this country was attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbor in 1941, if instead of retaliating by bombing Japan, we would have retaliated by bombing Peru. Iraq is not connected by any credible evidence to 9-11, nor is it connected by any credible evidence to the activities of al Qaeda on 9-11.

http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2002/10/03_kucinich_vote-no.htm

How Can We Justify This?
by Representative Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio), February 2002

Let us pray that our nation will remember that the unfolding of the promise of democracy in our nation paralleled the striving for civil rights. That is why we must challenge the rationale of the Patriot Act. We must ask why should America put aside guarantees of constitutional justice?

How can we justify in effect canceling the First Amendment and the right of free speech, the right to peaceably assemble?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Fourth Amendment, probable cause, the prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizure?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Fifth Amendment, nullifying due process, and allowing for indefinite incarceration without a trial?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Sixth Amendment, the right to prompt and public trial?

http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2002/02/00_kucinich_justify.htm




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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:34 PM
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24. Love Kucinich
He was blackballed early on. I know because I was fighting for him at my small town caucus. People didn't know who he was. He was labled a kook for being vegetarian and single.
My mother said that at every anti-war protest she went to in Washington D.C., Kucinich was always a presence. He also got zero credit for his use of the internet early on yet was the only candidate to use the new audio technology which uses a phone call to make talking postcards that load quicker then streaming.

It drove me crazy watching how the media manipulated the whole primary and convention coverage to shut him out. His speeches totally address how I feel.

He is brave... hope he stays off small planes and fast highways and doesn't get "depressed".


www.nobullshirt.com
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:46 PM
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25. Its because he's american
As an american opposition, you're dirt; nonexistant, repressed dirt,
hovering as dust in the room. I myself went up against a former
undersecretary of defense on live UK radio (5 live) right before the war,
nationwide in the UK and he lied and liabelled me on nationwide UK air...
but that's ok, because i'm american, and we're dispensible dirt, to be
forgotten and insulted... so i've to depend on my mate Galloway to do
the dirty... and he done a great job ave it. Kilts: 1, repuke wankers: 0

The Nazi murderer war-lust liars would kill the american opposition were
it not for little leftovers like due process.. thank god for that.


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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:21 PM
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16. HIT THE MEDIA... get this clip on the EVENING NEWS!!
we are NOT helpless.. thats the myth.. the numbers of aware Americans is growing!! This clip makes good news.. BE the MEDIA.. echo this ..!

at least Email the friendly outlets.. ECHO THIS EVERYWHERE!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:24 PM
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17. Boy am I in for some hate mail tonight
I just emailed that clip to everyone I know - Dem and Repub.
oh well, too late now!
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:28 PM
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19. It was short and sweet!
I'm sure all those Americans were glad the vote came up. Levin acted just like a Repug, did you notice? The whole bunch of them are in on the coup, seems to me.
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vince3 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:43 PM
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22. Thanks for the link
Galloway was brilliant. This never-elected administration is in trouble.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:47 PM
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26. Galloway for President! Go ahead & change the Constitution on foreigners.
I'm Proud to be a Scot today!
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